Posts by RayPublisher

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2013 Sept WT out

by Gayle in

could only just quickly scan it.

still trying to 'duck' out of 1914.. in a similar way, at the beginning.

of the 20th century, there were a number.

RayPublisher

The servers must be flooded...JW.org just said "Cannot fulfill request at this time. Try later."

Or perhaps they are "tweaking" the magazine a little??

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Did Jesus lie or just changed his mind?

by EdenOne in

john 7:8-10.

"go up to the festival yourselves.

i'm not going to this festival yet, because my time has not yet fully come.

RayPublisher

@ cantleave =- " I can't see another context by which they can be seen, unless of course you use convoluted mental gymnastics."

And because YOU CAN'T SEE IT then no one else can right?

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Did Jesus lie or just changed his mind?

by EdenOne in

john 7:8-10.

"go up to the festival yourselves.

i'm not going to this festival yet, because my time has not yet fully come.

RayPublisher

Thanks for that response Mr. T-- I like you too.

I'm fighting with each and every cult I encounter now... One at a time!

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Overlapping Generations: A wacky kool-aid thread

by RayPublisher in

another wacky kool aid thread for your reading pleasure from the hardcore dubbs on jw talk dot net is here if you want to read it:.

they wax philosophical, they curse this horrible old world, they gently try to project how soon the big a will come, and then swoon when someone quotes a tidbit from a gb member that they overheard.

warning: those with weak stomachs do not read!.

RayPublisher

Another wacky kool aid thread for your reading pleasure from the hardcore Dubbs on JW Talk dot net is here if you want to read it:

thread-on-Matt-23.34-this-generation

They wax philosophical, they curse this horrible old world, they gently try to project how soon the Big A will come, and then swoon when someone quotes a tidbit from a GB member that they overheard. Warning: those with weak stomachs do not read!

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Here's the OP:

In the WT study this Sunday, one of the points in the box on page 9 is about 'this generation'. It tells you to research in an old (2010) Watchtower. This is what the WT says, I copied it: "... He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began

 to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see

 the start of the great tribulation..." I know we can't calculate when the end will come. There

is actually a scripture about that in the bible reading next week. But, when you look at this

explanation of this scripture, am I right that you can calculate approximately? For example it

can't go on 30 more years. Because then there won't be any more anointed alive who lived at

the same time with anointed that lived in 1914. Or did I not understand that correctly???

And here's an excerpt of one El-Dur trying to explain overlapping generations in the above-linked thread:

"So, in what I would consider an extreme scenario, let's presume a person was 15, baptized, and anointed in 1914. He lives to be 100 and dies in the year 1999. When he died, there was another anointed contemporary of his who was also 15. He too lives to be 100, and dies in the year 2085.

Both of these individuals were part of the same generation - the "last days" generation."

Here's some other bon motts from the faithful Dubbs:

"I really look forward to studying the 7/15 Watchtower as a congregation and sounding down all these refinements!"

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"At our visit to Brooklyn we met Brother Loesch and talked a little bit with him. When my husband said we came to see the HQ for the last time before they move to Warwick, Brother Loesch told us that they don't think they will make it out of N.Y. completely before the end. The end is that close! And when do they plan to finish Warwick? 2016 I believe......That gives me such a deep feeling of satisfaction, contentment, and yes---goosebumps!!!"

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"Bro Samuel Herd gave a talk in which he stated:

'Sometimes in traveling about, and I am not trying to make any judgments, but sometimes I see those who claim to be of the anointed not representing anything that I've seen of the anointed. Sometimes they're the biggest troublemakers in the congregation.

Sometimes they cause more fights, literally fighting, I've actually seen that. Difficulty and trouble that they cause within the congregation; I went on a bible study and this person wasn't baptized and they were sitting there figuring out whether or not they were of the anointed.'

We have the composite sign Jesus gave us, and we know Jehovah's patience will soon run out. His institution of marriage is crumbling as gay marriage laws are passed around the world, gay men are paying surrogates to have babies for them, so the role of the mother is obselete, the earth is being ruined at a faster rate than scientists thought, more horrific stories every day as Satan knows his time is fast running out."

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"I would hate to be a woman with pangs of distress comparable to today and have to endure that kind of pain 20 or 30 more years...even 2 more years will take anesthesia from Jehovah to get thru what is ahead!"

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Did Jesus lie or just changed his mind?

by EdenOne in

john 7:8-10.

"go up to the festival yourselves.

i'm not going to this festival yet, because my time has not yet fully come.

RayPublisher

That's not on topic Tater. Although there are plenty of "I think the Bible is Crap" threads so perhaps you should find one of those to exorcise your demons lol.

...And those quotes in the meme are not taken in context are they? But I think you probably already knew that...

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Did Jesus lie or just changed his mind?

by EdenOne in

john 7:8-10.

"go up to the festival yourselves.

i'm not going to this festival yet, because my time has not yet fully come.

RayPublisher

I don't feel Jesus "changed his mind" at all. He knew exactly what he was doing IMO. Using seemingly conflicting language and hyperbole was common for him in other places as well. For example:

• Camel and eye of needle...

• If you aren't for me you are against me vs If you aren't against me then you are for me...

• If you don't eat my flesh and drink my blood...

• Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me...

These all show that it was a certain way of expressing things that would draw out people and test their resolve and persistence. Would they listen to him? Believe him? Follow or not follow? His teaching was perfectly calculated to accomplish his goals.

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Inside Australia's Chilling New Cult (AJ Miller ex jw)

by frankiespeakin in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml2oa4oigvo.

RayPublisher

This Miller guy can't be Jesus... Lars is Jesus!!

So either one is lying or deluded...or they BOTH are lying or deluded.

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Former Long Time Elder, New Member

by James Jackson in

jw
friends

i have served 20 years as an elder, 5 years as an ms. was on the district committee in 2010, held various positions on the district , circuit, and rbc level.

probably been on more than 100 judicial committees and even an appeals committee.

was the coordinator in our congregation and deleted because adult child was df ( i kicked him out at the time of his wrongdoing, but that wasn't enough for thr brothers).

RayPublisher

I was an elder too, got out by driving a semi through the front gate...and now my head doesn't hurt so much anymore!

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Jehovah Witness victims of Childhood Sex Abuse - and all supporters from the State of Pennsylvania - Action Alert to get movement on SOL reform!

by Sol Reform in

http://sol-reform.com/news/pa-residents-action-alert-to-get-movement-on-sol-reform/.

pa residents action alert to get movement on sol reform!

20 may 2013 | pennsylvania .

RayPublisher

Huh? Perhaps some explanation of what you would like us to do...sounds like a good bill though.

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Forum Policy: Off Topic Comments and Nonsense

by Simon in

some people didn't seem to get the message so i'll repeat it to make clear:.

posting off topics comments and general gibberish / nonsense is something i class as spam and will not be tolerated.. any posts found will be removed and if it's repeatedly by the same poster then they will be deleted as well.. thank you for everyone else who uses the forum for proper discussion..

RayPublisher

Can we also ban posters that think they are Christ too? (Pretty Please!!!)