God is unchanging. Therefore it is man's understanding of Him that changed.
You can't back that up, at least scripturally. OT=Law. NT=mercy/grace.
OT=eye for an eye/captial punishment. NT=forgiveness of sins.
i've talked with a number of jws who have commented that they feel like failures -- that they're never good enough.. if that resonates with someone reading this post, please realize that you are by no means the only one who feels like that.. in fact, the whole wt system depends on keeping jws feeling that way.
the gb wants you to feel that way.. think about it.
you are always reading or hearing about someone who puts in an extraordinary number of hours in field service or someone who goes out more than you do despite having twice as many challenges and responsibilities.
God is unchanging. Therefore it is man's understanding of Him that changed.
You can't back that up, at least scripturally. OT=Law. NT=mercy/grace.
OT=eye for an eye/captial punishment. NT=forgiveness of sins.
even before awakening from the mind control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic.
i'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here.
every time i'd ask jw's these questions they would give me bs answers like we will have to wait on jehovah to tell us in the new system or some other lamo thinking stopper.
Chariklo, I have a strange sense of humor.
i've talked with a number of jws who have commented that they feel like failures -- that they're never good enough.. if that resonates with someone reading this post, please realize that you are by no means the only one who feels like that.. in fact, the whole wt system depends on keeping jws feeling that way.
the gb wants you to feel that way.. think about it.
you are always reading or hearing about someone who puts in an extraordinary number of hours in field service or someone who goes out more than you do despite having twice as many challenges and responsibilities.
That's the Old Testament God, isn't it, Knowsnothing?
JW's excel in emphasising that side of God. They ignore the New Testament, or rather, they twist it round to say the same as the Old, whereas Christ brought a new message of a loving father in heaven.
God went from being one of the most punitive, rancorous, petty beings to love, because he sent Jesus Christ? I don't buy it. I thought God was "unchanging in his righteous ways."
I also don't buy that we don't measure up since the minute we are born, because we are "sinners".
i've talked with a number of jws who have commented that they feel like failures -- that they're never good enough.. if that resonates with someone reading this post, please realize that you are by no means the only one who feels like that.. in fact, the whole wt system depends on keeping jws feeling that way.
the gb wants you to feel that way.. think about it.
you are always reading or hearing about someone who puts in an extraordinary number of hours in field service or someone who goes out more than you do despite having twice as many challenges and responsibilities.
I'm sorry Ding, but perhaps the "you're never good enough" also comes from the Bible? Always having to please an angry God? Never measuring up because we were born "sinners"?
how do you explain david's graphic portrayal of jesus' death by crucifixion (psalm 22) 1000 years before christ lived?.
how do you account for the odds (1 in 10 to the 157th power) that even just 48 (of 300) old testament prophecies were fulfilled in jesus christ?.
in what sense was jesus a "good man" if he was lying in his claim to be god?.
If Jesus' resurrection was faked, why would twelve intelligent men (Jesus' disciples) have died for what they knew to be a lie?
Belief and intelligence are two different fields. Islamists blow themselves up and are happy to die for Allah.
How can something as small as a brain understand extremely complicated aspects of the universe, even though it is (supposedly) just a bunch of chemical reactions and electrical signals? But at the same time, this brain can’t create another brain like itself, so how can nature, that has no brain, create a brain?
We just haven't gotten there yet. Our ancestors' brains were preoccupied on not getting eaten, sex, and feeding themselves. It's only now with our technological advances that we can even begin to peer into the complicated brain processes.
Why can't this brain even create a simple living twig?
A living twig only appears simple.
Why is the simple cell likened to the complexity of large functioning city by experts?
Because it is not simple. It is only classified as simple in regards to more complex life forms.
Is it absolutely true that "truth is not absolute" or only relatively true that "all things are relative?"
I thought Christians were forbidden to engage in "vain philosophy" and "empty talk", since y'all already know everything?
What do you say about the hundreds of scholarly books that carefully document the veracity and reliability of the Bible?
It is important to note what portions of the Bible are documented as true and reliable. Myth and history tend to intertwine with the ancients, remember?
Have you ever considered the fact that Christianity is the only religion whose leader is said to have risen from the dead?
Elvis never died!
Why don't non-believers refer to Jesus as the late Jesus Christ?
Now you're just being obtuse.
If the authorities stole Jesus' body, why?
If the whole thing is a mythical embellisment of reality, this is a non-sequitur? The rest of the questions are rather similar.
How can one realistically discount the testimony of over 500 witnesses to a living Jesus following His crucifixion (see 1 Corinthians 15:6)?
Probably thousands have reported to see Bigfoot, the Lochness, aliens, etc. Seems like the mind is apt at deceiving or confirming our bias, eh?
Is it wrong to ask such questions? Why?
No, but it would be great if you actually took the time to look at both sides, instead of claiming you have the truth and expecting us to just follow along. I've been just as guilty as you have, just copy pasting things from creationist sites, and then claiming them as my own "thought experiments."
even before awakening from the mind control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic.
i'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here.
every time i'd ask jw's these questions they would give me bs answers like we will have to wait on jehovah to tell us in the new system or some other lamo thinking stopper.
How do the JW's absolutely know that Adam was created in 4026 BCE?
It's called Biblical Chronology. Count backwards dummy.
Are they sure it wasn't 4025 or 4027?
It is not our date, it is Jehovah's date.
Oh, so you say you can work it out from the dates you know from the Bible. I see. So, if Moses wrote his bit of the Bible, as you say, then how did Moses get those dates? I mean, just who was writing it all down way back in the Garden of Eden even before Eve talked to that snake? What did they write with? What did they write on?
Jehovah's Holy Spirit reminded Moses of what to write, along with oral tradition passed down since Adam. They wrote with a special type of poo, it's remarkable how long and smelly it lasts.
But the faithful and discreet slave, that's not exactly the Governing Body, is it?
The faithful and discreet slave are all the anointed on earth today, whom Jesus Christ named over all his belongings. The Governing Body is merely representative of said group.
So the Governing Body represents the faithful slave? So, how and why are the Giverning Body so sure of the exact dates? Who wrote it down in Eden?
Wait on the Governing Body Jehovah.
the question i have is, should i even bother?
i am not even sure why he wants to watch this particular video.
ive already seen it with my wife a few days ago and already seen how they leave a lot of details out concerning their teachings of old.
Garyneal, if you are prepared before you can go into it, you can question him on some of the logical fallacies/historical errors they make. Depends on what you want to accomplish, if you want to accomplish anything.
besides the obvious fact that it is historically ridiculous - can anybody make any sense out of this story?.
god was somehow afraid that man was developing too much technology?
just because they were building a tower?.
The story has nothing to do with hindering the humans, it has to do with hindering the Serpent who has a pretty potent plan for enslave God's people.
And he does it in the most bizarre and non-sensical of ways, he confuses them! Either way you look at it Sab, if you count all the religions that exist today that are not Judeo-Christian based, then according to your logic, all those people have been enslaved by Satan anyways.
Religious rhetoric is fun. It's like arguing with your friends who's a better super-hero.
The 144,000 is supposed to have been surpased long ago. This is one of the things Ray Franz argued about. There is a WT quote that 40,000 christians were martyred in a single event by the Romans. If that isn't enough to wake you up to this scam, I don't know what is.
see here:.
http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/04/23/final-jehovahs-witnesses-property-sells-for-6-6m-to-be-used-for-luxury-rentals/.
I think the problem with these buildings are that they are cash-pits. They require maintenance, upkeep. Even with volunteer work, supplies for maintenance and utilities still have to be paid. Better to liquidate than to continue pouring money in on something with diminishing returns.