Both the cross and stake are old pagan symbols. The phallus was a major pagan symbol. Does it matter if Jesus was crucified on a giant phallus?
What exactly is the point of arguing this?
Say it's a stake. What then? What exactly happens next?
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The "patibulum" : a fragile theory !
by TheFrench inthe latin fathers of the church has never described jesus carrying a "patibulum".
indeed, the early christians to represent jesus carrying the "crux", not the "patibulum".
it's a fact.
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What if Adam knew his wife, before the sin?
by Nambo ini sometimes wonder how things would have been if adam and eve had procreated before eating from the tree of knowledge, and the ramifications of such.. if any children didnt also eat of the tree, would we now have two groups of humans on earth, one perfect and living forever, and us.. would god have split the two classes of human, putting eden on another planet or dimension or such?.
does this indicate that its all deliberate, that god knew satans plan so let the play unfold before letting adam and eve know each other?.
or does it just mean that satan was allready corrupted and wanted to get his deed done at the very beggining to ensuer he had everyone?.
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OGD, how do you reconcile the message of salvation preached by Jesus, the fall from perfection of Adam and Eve, and the coming of sin and death into the world?
Can the bible "work" as you propose?
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Do You Know C.R.A.P. ?
by Perry inthere is no shortage of ex-elders, behelites, ex-circuit overseers on this forum that continue to spout their hatred for christians, even as they did while leading their former adherents down the same path.
the new religion for these preachers of paradise, is materialism.
in their view, science is the arbitrator of truth.
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Knowsnothing
Nambo, what do you think about the Bible in regards to being inspired and the Word of God?
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Why is the Watchtower petrified by Higher Criticism?
by Doug Mason inwhat is it about higher criticism that petrifies the watchtower?
what are they trying to hide?.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/higher%20criticism.
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Knowsnothing
From the link Doug gave:
The principles of higher criticism are based on reason rather than revelation and are also speculative by nature.
Reason
Speculation
If you are simply left with a maybe, a what if, no matter how iron-clad the argument looks, you simply can't be 100%.
Then again, that seems like a preferable option to the leap of faith required to believe the Bible as inspired by God.
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What if Adam knew his wife, before the sin?
by Nambo ini sometimes wonder how things would have been if adam and eve had procreated before eating from the tree of knowledge, and the ramifications of such.. if any children didnt also eat of the tree, would we now have two groups of humans on earth, one perfect and living forever, and us.. would god have split the two classes of human, putting eden on another planet or dimension or such?.
does this indicate that its all deliberate, that god knew satans plan so let the play unfold before letting adam and eve know each other?.
or does it just mean that satan was allready corrupted and wanted to get his deed done at the very beggining to ensuer he had everyone?.
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You make a good point, Black Sheep. To begin, if I had a smoking-hot woman materialize out of nowhere, and it was declared she was my spouse, I wouldn't exactly spend my time naming the animals. I would get down to business!
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Why is the Watchtower petrified by Higher Criticism?
by Doug Mason inwhat is it about higher criticism that petrifies the watchtower?
what are they trying to hide?.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/higher%20criticism.
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Knowsnothing
As you know, Daniel is written in two different languages, which poses interesting questions.
No, I didn't know, and you're opening up a whole new field of investigation for me. Thanks.
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Why is the Watchtower petrified by Higher Criticism?
by Doug Mason inwhat is it about higher criticism that petrifies the watchtower?
what are they trying to hide?.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/higher%20criticism.
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Knowsnothing
We know this because they use the name YHWH before it was revealed to Moses.
How do you figure? If Moses' narrative (let's assume he was real) uses YWHW before it was revealed, in the narrative, that doesn't necessarily discredit his authorship. Seeing as how he would have written the events after they happened, (obviously) he had license to reference the name. What Moses wouldn't have license to do, or rather what would discredit his authorship, would be if in the narrative he quotes himself using the divine name before it was revealed to him.
Do you have a reference for that? I'll be honest, I wasn't aware of such a thing. When you are educated by the Society, you read the book "All Scripture is Inspired", and that's generally all you'll ever look at (at least that goes for me).
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God - is this really what you had planned for your righteous ones?
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Knowsnothing
Another thing about Earth is that 98% of species are now extinct. That contradicts this verse:
(Psalm 104:24-31) . . .How many your works are, O Jehovah! All of them in wisdom you have made. The earth is full of your productions. 25 As for this sea so great and wide, There there are moving things without number, Living creatures, small as well as great. 26 There the ships go; As for Le·vi′a·than, him you have formed to play about in it. 27 All of them—for you they keep waiting To give [them] their food in its season. 28 What you give them they pick up. You open your hand—they get satisfied with good things. 29 If you conceal your face, they get disturbed. If you take away their spirit, they expire, And back to their dust they go. 30 If you send forth your spirit, they are created; And you make the face of the ground new. 31 The glory of Jehovah will prove to be to time indefinite
Why the double standard? Jehovah feeds animals with his own hands, but doesn't bother about their extinction. Yikes!
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coping mechanism
by independenthinker inhad a meeting with elders today.
got wasted at a party with worldly friends to take my mind off things.
anyone else use drink as a coping mechanism?.
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Escapism is not a way to deal with your problems.
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Why is the Watchtower petrified by Higher Criticism?
by Doug Mason inwhat is it about higher criticism that petrifies the watchtower?
what are they trying to hide?.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/higher%20criticism.
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Doug, can you give an example of a highly disputed text or section, which would fall under "literary criticism"? Would, say, the creation story with A&E fall under narrative, and therefore be subject to scrutiny as such?