i am looking for anything that suggests there is a rational explaination for daniel apparently predicting the rise of greece as a world power.
there is some stuff online suggesting that scholars years ago thought it was modified over time but evidence points to it having been written in the 6th centuary bc and they have been forced to correct their view.. is there anything anywhere that presents the accepted secular view of this passage?.
cheers.
The book correctly predicts the restoration of the Temple in approximately the correct length of time (3 1/2 years instead of 3), which was something that Josephus found impressive. - Leolaia
Interesting. In your opinion, does this grant it divine providence, or is there another explanation? Considering all the mishmash of ideas and re-interpretations that Daniel holds, it wouldn't seem likely, but still.... there is always that possibility for me.
introduction: in the beginning.
how it all started.
read this chapter.... know your ngos!.
Ad-hominem and straw-man detected!
Consider the Source
One crackpot has spent thousands of dollars sending letters to the elders of every congregation in the USA, some in the UK, and all the branch offices to tell them about the NGO “apostasy”. You won‘t believe the story behind this deluded man who think‘s he's a prophet of God. Read this chapter...
i am looking for anything that suggests there is a rational explaination for daniel apparently predicting the rise of greece as a world power.
there is some stuff online suggesting that scholars years ago thought it was modified over time but evidence points to it having been written in the 6th centuary bc and they have been forced to correct their view.. is there anything anywhere that presents the accepted secular view of this passage?.
cheers.
http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/4874-daniel-book-of
My question about Daniel is that it predicted the Roman Empire? Would that be evidence of prophecy fulfilled?
thoughtful christians including scientists like francis collins and kenneth miller accept the evidence for evolution unconditionally.
the only thing that distinguishes their understanding of life from the views of dawkins is that they believe god planned and started the process intentionally.. just a word about the subtle but vital distinction between "theistic evolution" and "intelligent design".... over-simplifications alert - intelligent design is creationism in disguise.
it is a modern twist on the "paley's watch" argument.
Perhaps it would be better if we listened to binadub describe his beliefs, as opposed to the terms he's using.
By definition ID is nothing more than belief that the unknown original cause of creation was by a supreme intelligent agent. I happen to believe that. I do not believe in "creationism" as it is defined.
Ok binadub, you do not believe in Creationism. Rather, you seem to believe in a deity that was the first cause that set into motion the universe. Apart from that, he has not/will not interfere with his creation, for lack of a better term.
Your belief is compatible with Deism, and it in no way interferes with science. There are still so many unknowns to be discovered.
have you noticed that the dubs have mentioned from time to time when you see some beautiful creations, then they say that jehovah is wonderful?
is there something wrong with their thinking?.
Truth be said, Jehovah would deprive me of every ounce of pleasure he could get away with. The pleasure that manages to get through, he expects copious praise for--which he isn't getting. What about all the many times Jehovah has stopped Satan and His Demons from getting the opposite sex into my life? Jehovah has used his angels to maneuver the environment to make it impossible and highly offensive for me to even try, and he is determined to see that my soul never sees anything different. - WTWizard
I LOL'ed at this so hard! Thank you! (tears of spastic joy)
where you're an ex-jw or still a jw, if you live in miami, florida (broward/palm beach county is cool too), i want to hear your story.
i've already given mine, but i'll tell it again just for the purpose of this thread.. i was researching masturbation because of the fact that the wt makes it out to be such a bad thing despite admitting that it isn't even mentioned in the bible.
along with that, i was researching "porneia" in general, and then i discovered this site.
PM back at ya, Sseveninches.
where you're an ex-jw or still a jw, if you live in miami, florida (broward/palm beach county is cool too), i want to hear your story.
i've already given mine, but i'll tell it again just for the purpose of this thread.. i was researching masturbation because of the fact that the wt makes it out to be such a bad thing despite admitting that it isn't even mentioned in the bible.
along with that, i was researching "porneia" in general, and then i discovered this site.
Seven, PM! Also, next time, consider posting this in members only section.
have you noticed that the dubs have mentioned from time to time when you see some beautiful creations, then they say that jehovah is wonderful?
is there something wrong with their thinking?.
Listen, maybe the parasite that burrows into your eye had a wonderful purpose before the flood. The flood made Jehovah angry. Something about rainbows not existing as an inherent property of light before the flood. Armageddon will wipe away your tears with a radioactive shockwave, and there will be everlasting nuclear fallout. The dead will cry out no more, for they will be dead. (Rev. 21:3,4) Mosquitoes will drop human blood like it's hot, and gorge themselves on the sweet, sweet nectar of mangos. Or was that apples?
Sharks will sunbathe with octopuses, lions will be snacking on granola bars, and the mere young child will place their hand upon a couple of drum sticks, and with all the dexterity of a professional musician, make a sweet noise emanate from the fangs of a tamed wolf. Wait upon Jehovah, and see all this come to an earth near you.
if anyone was under the illusion that all baptized jw children become dedicated solely of their own volition, then hopefully this new video should be a wake-up call.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plgbjdgoj-u.
(unfortunately, due to the soundtrack i've chosen, this video is apparently banned in germany.
Thanks so much, Cedars! I enjoy your new series of videos. Very poignant. Whatever that means.
this well-reasoned youtube video explains it all.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwjm5d9m1lm.
it seems that, in my haste to scrutinize the teachings of the governing body and see whether they are actually in line with bible teachings, i have overlooked one important factor which indicates that they really can be trusted as those "taking the lead" in god's organization..... ...apparently, their weekly meetings sometimes run past 5 o'clock!!
i would like to apologise for any undue criticism i may have levelled at the governing body on this forum or elsewhere.. if i had been aware of the above information, i would obviously have been far more willing to humbly accept their leadership.. .
Starts at around 3:20.
Elder (to Sydlik): Look at all the info. I researched for a shepharding call.
Sydlik: You don't need that! The way women show up to work nowadays is sexual harrasment, and you're going to show this to the brother?
Elder: You're right! *throws away all his hard work in the trash*
Elder (to audience): It was then I realized the love.
*throws away all his hard work in the trash* *throws away all his hard work in the trash* *throws away all his hard work in the trash*
Rinse, lap it up, repeat.
