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  Believing in God - Challenge

  by jgnat in

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  i invite king solomon and anyone else that is interested, to discuss if believing in god may be helpful.

  i am not restricting the discussion to the biblical god.

  i'm ready to look if this belief may be helpful both from a societal and from an individual point of view.

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  Knowsnothing

  So, we end up with you can believe what ever you want to, so long as you are balanced.

  Believing in God - QED

  I think one problem with this type of question, is which God? If God exists, which we don't know, which conceptualization of him is real? Can any of our "hypotheses" come close? What if I believe in the vengeful Jehovah? How is that supposed to confort me? How do I know he is real?

  If we can't even define what or who God is, what exactly does believing in God mean?

  God=?

  jgnat, a more personal question, if you don't mind. What does believing in God do for you? How would you describe the God you believe in?
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  Everything is going bad.

  by Decided in

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  i just went up to see my friend who was in a care center.

  i went in his room and he was dead, i had to call the nurse who said she was with him 15 minutes before.

  i was in walmart the day before and saw an old school mate who's mother was a jw and he said he had cancer and had two years to live according to the doctor.

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  Decided... My sympathies.

  Can you still work? Tell us a bit more backround, if you wish. You also choose to PM me if you like, I will listen.
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  Finally! -- Why the WTS Discourages Higher Education

  by Recovery in

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  i'm sure many of you have been wondering why the wts has stuck to it's adamant viewpoint of higher education.

  let's settle it once and for all.

  this will prove conclusively why it's in young people's best interests to avoid higher education.. candace conti has inspired hundreds, perhaps thousands of young girls across america to successfully take on the wts.

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  Knowsnothing

  I'll ask again, as others have asked, what does your rant about Candice Conti winning have anything to do with higher education? Your title is misleading; I was hoping you would address why the WTS really discourages higher education.

  What exactly is so "evil" about higher education? Do you realize complex societies require specialization? Do you think the computer you're typing on came from reading the Awake! or WT?

  If you are interested in looking at a balanced debate, why not try here?

  Our AnnOMaly kicked Dream_Weaver's butt. Recovery, what exactly are you concerned with here, legal liability your Org has to endure, or the protection of children?
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  Atheist Book of Bible Stories

  by crystlew123 in

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  2. friends

  ok so i dl'd this book.

  and i immediatly began reading it.

  i am about 50 pdf pages into it.

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  The OT stories are important and special because they are a) extraordinarily good and b) because they are Jewish. -Sulla

  a.) In what sense are they extraordinarily good? Surely you've read the awful parts as well?

  b.) The OT stories are good because they are Jewish, and God is a Jew.... I'm not quite sure I follow.

  The quality of the stories is grasped through the larger themes. Foe example: The Jewish creation myth has man being formed from God's own breath and in his own image. This is interesting because so many other stories insist that men are made from dragon blood or something. Those other stories also seem true in some way, but the Jewish approach leads us to a different place, doesn't it? - Sulla

  At the end of the day, the myth is one and the same. I'm trying real hard to understand how you reconcile the myth with the reality.

  The, of course, you have this preposterous claim that the eschatological figure winds up getting murdered and raised, and that this fixes everything. That's where it gets interesting.

  Oh, indeed, very interesting.

  My question though is, what exactly from the Bible do you consider to be concrete truth, concrete reality? I don't know what better way to ask. I can understand seeking "spirituality", "meaning in existence", connecting in some seemingly profound way with the past, etc.

  What I don't understand is religion claiming to possess truth, and then having you claim that as a Catholic, you alone are reading the Bible the "right way".

  In the words of Pontius Pilate, "What is truth"?
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  A question for Athiests

  by EndofMysteries in

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  i really do not understand how any can be athiests from thinking real hard about it.

  how can you think everything on this earth just happened?.

  from my understanding, to be athiest, this is pretty much how it goes.

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  Knowsnothing

  How can you think everything on this earth just happened?

  To add to this, there are process that allow one to look back into time. For example, you question can be phrased, "Was Earth "just" created with Mount Everest?" If you follow the processes that lead to this, you would be lead to the conclusion Mt. Everest wasn't always there, even though it appears so grand and immutable. The fact is, the accumulation of millions of years of geological processes produced Mt. Everest.

  If you take your time to investigate a little bit of science, especially things like geology, star formations, etc., you begin to gain a grasp on the fact that things really don't "just happen". The accumulation of time and forces of nature can lead to incredibly complex stuff.
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  Atheist Book of Bible Stories

  by crystlew123 in

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  ok so i dl'd this book.

  and i immediatly began reading it.

  i am about 50 pdf pages into it.

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  Knowsnothing

  I read scripture like a Catholic.

  Can you elaborate a bit more? What do you choose to accept and reject as "truth"? Does the Bible hold any concrete meaning for you, or is it just a good moral framework, in your opinion?
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  A question for Athiests

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i really do not understand how any can be athiests from thinking real hard about it.

  how can you think everything on this earth just happened?.

  from my understanding, to be athiest, this is pretty much how it goes.

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  Knowsnothing

  How can you think everything on this earth just happened?

  Given enough time, anything is possible.

  If God exists, the real question is, where is he? No appearance since.... creation? Nice way to leave us guessing I suppose.
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  Any gamers here?

  by poopsiecakes in

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  i can't stop playing skyrim.

  how did this happen?

  i was never into this stuff before and never thought i would be.

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  Knowsnothing

  The funnest part about gaming... (for me) is talking about it... LOL.

  Hands down (my pants, old joke from high-school), my favorite game of all-time for the cause of replayability is Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings and the The Conquerors expansion. 0_0 Soooo many hours spent playing... I'm sure I probably spent more than is healthy playing that game. Good times, good times. Gunz The Duel probably comes at a close second.

  My gaming was about as extreme as when that South Park episode aired where the gang plays World of Warcraft.... bwahahahahaha.... without the crap pan of course...
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  Opening the bible at random - once spoken of approvingly, now superstitious!

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the latest december 15th study edition of the watchtower opens with an intriguing article entitled "beware of superstitious use of the bible".. as an example of what constitutes "superstitious use" of the bible, it has this to say.... .

  "perhaps a more common misuse of the bible is the practice of bibliomancy.

  it refers to opening at random a book, often the bible, and reading the text that first meets the eye in the belief that those words will provide needed guidance.

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  Knowsnothing

  All this just confirms a topic I started a while ago. Quite frankly, it's just sad that this can repeat itself over and over again, and there is not a batting of the eye to the contrary.
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  Atheist Book of Bible Stories

  by crystlew123 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok so i dl'd this book.

  and i immediatly began reading it.

  i am about 50 pdf pages into it.

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  Knowsnothing

  Perhaps I have missed the part where you've explained why I should be distressed to discover that there are a pair of traditions recorded about who, exactly, whacked Goliath. - Sulla

  You're not distressed about the Bible being fallible, yet you still somehow reconcile the Biblical message to your Catholic liking. That's fine, but that's on you to rationalize your particular belief.

  Perhaps you shouldn't be distressed, but certainly any fundamentalist interpretation should. I hope the scope of criticism is clear.

  Now, if you'd like to give some input as to why you choose to adhere to your faith, yet reject Biblical infallibilty, by all means, that sounds interesting.

  Editted to add: If you like the Atheist Book of Bible Stories, perhaps you will like the parrodies posted on reddit.