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  Evidence of Supernatural Ability

  by GromitSK in

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  i would be interested to hear members' views on:.

  a) what they would consider to be a supernatural ability and.

  b) what they would consider sufficient evidence to convince them it was genuine.. (it's late here so if i don't participate for the next few hours don't think i cut and run :)).

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  Knowsnothing

  sounds like a reasonable list to me. As an aside, I can't see anything on it which, if it turned out to be genuine, would necessarily involve the operation of

  'spirits' of any kind, would you agree?

  I agree, except I would then be curious as to just how such a feat was accomplished. It really would leave open more questions than it answers. Oh, so-and-so has telekinetic powers do they? Well, how the hell do they have that power? What allows them that power and not others? You see what I mean?

  I don't discount the 'supernatural' just yet, mainly because I have a good friend that he says went to a 'Santero' and was told many things that only he himself knew. Maybe there is a spirit world, but they choose to interact with us whenever it's convinient for them. Perhaps, that's why it's called the 'occult' afterall. You can't know unless you immerse yourself in it, and by then it's too late. Just my two cents.
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  Evidence of Supernatural Ability

  by GromitSK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would be interested to hear members' views on:.

  a) what they would consider to be a supernatural ability and.

  b) what they would consider sufficient evidence to convince them it was genuine.. (it's late here so if i don't participate for the next few hours don't think i cut and run :)).

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  Knowsnothing

  a.)

  1.) Mind reading or telepathy.

  2.) Remote viewing.

  3.) Predicting the future.

  4.) Telekinesis.

  b.)

  This part of the question is a bit more complicated. For all the tests, ensure there is no foul play. Make sure the psychic, spirit medium, whatever, doesn't know any information about me. Must know something only I could know.

  There is also a problem here on the testability of these phenomena, if they exist. Say spirits do exist, can we guarantee they will act on command? As an example, just because I can do a triple sommersault doesn't mean I have to. If someone wanted to verify that's possible, but I do not wish to act, how can my assertion be verified that I can indeed do a sommersault?
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  The Greatest Show On Earth - A Book Summary In Many Parts

  by cofty in

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  it was a number of years after i left the watchtower that i finally admitted to myself that i had never really investigated evolution.. i thought i was already an expert on the subject despite everything i knew about it coming form a source that was attacking the theory.

  when i began to reserch evolution objectively i was astonished by the breadth an depth of the evidence.

  i have been reading books and articles on the subject for around ten years now and always find it to be fascinating and inspiring.. a couple of years ago i began to write a summary of dawkin's book on the jws forum with the intention of helping any lurking jws who could not dare be seen reading the book for themselves.

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  Oi Cofty, would you get on with it? I was really enjoying it!
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  JW.org reports on the Sandy Hook shooting...

  by cedars in

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  from the official jw website.... .

  school shooting in connecticutdecember 17, 2012 | united states.

  on friday, december 14, 2012, a shooting took place at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut.

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  Cedars, you can be a bit sensationalist at times. This should be a non-issue. Let's focus on the real issues of the WT, such as false prophecy, totalitarian regime, shunning, quote mining, etc.

  I would have to agree with Scotoma. The announcement was mainly intended for informing JWs about their bretheren.
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  Christianity gives you....ummm...ummm....exactly what?

  by Terry in

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  christianity:.

  you get struck on the cheek and you pony up for the other slap.. you pray for the enemy who wants you face down in the mud with his heel on your neck.. you get treated like pond scum but you force a smile and forgive.. .

  if you are abused?

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  Waste your life and bet everything on the little white Roulette ball spinning around the Bible casino. Hope when your number comes up you hit the jackpot.

  Better hope it is eternal life instead of the permanent inside of a coffin for the eternal dirt nap!

  1 Corinthians 15:12-19

  12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

  Paul said it himself. All that personal sacrifice, all that preaching, it would all be in vain.
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  THIS MAN proved that God exists and he did it effortlessly!

  by Terry in

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  meet a really smart fellow named anselm 1043--1109 a.d.. .

  he was elected abbot in lombardy in 1078 a.d.. .

  that than which nothing greater can be thought exists in the understanding.

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  In that degree their goodness is derrived from the most supremely good among them.

  I'll just try tackle this one. Sometimes, the sum of the parts is greater than the individual parts themselves. This argument fails at recognizing this.

  Also, who defines good?
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  So.....hi!

  by FaceTheFacts in

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  not really good at introductions.

  i am an active jw who has my doubts about certain things like the bible as a whole but im slowly but surely wading through them.

  just of curiousity: what on earth has happened to this board?

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  I am an active JW who has my doubts about certain things like the Bible as a whole

  Great place to start, IMO. If the whole foundation is wrong, what's left to discuss or believe in?

  what on earth has happened to this board? I dont really see any substantial topics on JWs, mostly semantic gymnastics regarding atheism and creation. So should I tryto contribute here or is this not the place for JW discussions?

  It is, it's just as a board, JW topics have been discussed ad infinitum, and we've all pretty much moved on from that. This board is mostly composed of Ex-JWs, and as such, that reflects the overall mentality. Of course, you are free to bring up any topic you are interested, but as I said, there really is not much else to discuss on JWs that hasn't been already. You dig?

  Anyways, welcome to the board, Facethefacts! Face what facts, exactly?
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  hmm i am being warned about!

  by unstopableravens in

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  im out eating with a friend who is a nonbaptized jw ,he told me his grandfather who is an elder ,that im apostate.

  i went down and talk to this elder about two weeks ago he called me ask how i was , i went down and showed him old light and new light about fds.

  i was very respectful.

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  unstoppable, I agree with what LWT has said. Who do you love more, your family or your 'zeal' to be right?
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  Living as a gay Jehovah's Witness - My Story!

  by TimothyT in

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  it wasn't a feeling of rebellion; it was the feeling of love and care i desired.

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  You know the guy eating the big invisible doughnut? :) - TimothyT

  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! Thanks for the laugh!
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  Living as a gay Jehovah's Witness - My Story!

  by TimothyT in

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  it wasn't a feeling of rebellion; it was the feeling of love and care i desired.

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  Hey, nice to see you around again! Is that a Roman amphitheater in the background? Awesome!