Its been a while since I was "in", but I seem to remember the r&fJW being taken to a "back room" by the loving elders after a meeting, leaving the whole congregation wondering what they had done "wrong". These poor publishers would then get some strange looks and receive diffidence from their loving brothers once released. Never knew when an elder was in "trouble" though, did we (or their children, come to think of it)? No special privliges? Hah!
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5The apostle's Paul reproof...
by MacHislopp ina small question:.
according to the following text, paul , in antioch relates a reproof that he.
gave to peter and others because "they were not walking straight ...".
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Is this how they control people?
by Loki inif religion is, as marx said, the opium of the people, do the borg just have theirs at a better grade than most religions?
is that why it is so hard for people to "kick the habit"?
is that why we feel so strongly about the borg - reformed druggies being the most outspoken and all that?
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JanG
I did put this in as a flip sort of topic that came to me in the midst of trying to decide about whether or not to take something for my headache. However, you are right, there is a very serious side to it, isn’t there?I had a lot of trouble when I left, lots of questions about who I really am, and where do I want to go. I didn’t have many decision-making skills; all that sort of thing was previously taken care of for me. It was a while ago now, and I guess I have become a bit more mellow about it now, but your reply reminded me. Thanks
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Should the goverments act?
by PerFect inhi all,.
since the courtcases in moscow and france are on the wall, what are your thoughts on this.. should authorities act by making laws against destructiv sects?.
what kind of laws, and what criteria should identify a destructiv sect?.
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What a topic PerFect!
I guess I’m not really adding much to the topic, but it is an issue which concerns me.
Seeker said “Don't depend on the government to tell you right from wrong, for that way lies danger.” Good point – isn’t that what the WTS does anyway?
Having said that, however, there is a place for law and government intervention, else we would have anarchy. The trouble is, where do you draw the line on that one? At what point does protection become control? I agree Seeker, that education is necessary. But how can you educate a group of people who are taught with what “perspective” to see issues which relate to the Borg.
Hawkaw, there are quite a few more places than Cuba and Haiti who do not have US style democracy, look at Asia. There are places where you can be thrown into jail if you publicly voice an opinion against the government, beaten up for protesting. I guess you can easily live with decisions made by the government, if you happen to agree for the most part with the ideology of that government. But what if you don’t? As you said, “there is much more work to be done”.
Do I sound confused? I am!
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JW's & alternative medicine
by slipnslidemaster inin one of the threads i read today, they were talking about looking into your eyeballs to diagnose cancer and the like.
also selling herbs.. my comment and question is this: it seemed like in my congregation and the surrounding ones, alot of the sisters were into kineseology, reflexology, herbs, vitamins, color therapy, aroma therapy, etc.. alot of touchy feely hippie crap.
while i personally agree that there needs to be more synergy with eastern and western medicines, it would appear reading the boards that alot of witnesses are into this sort of stuff.. is this your experience?
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Hi Slipnslide
Great topic - lets keep trying for page 4. Hey, I want to stop being a "newbie" anyway.
It has always confounded me why a group of people who set such store by the resurrection are so concerned about their health. The people I mix with now discuss it so much less than the JWs did.
We must remember that "alternatives" were once "modern" anyway. I'm personally in favour of alternate medication as it has really helped me in the past. Saying that, "modern" medicine has also helped me too, and I feel that we should be able to avail ourselves of the entire spectrum of health approaches. Like Introspection pointed out, the statistics can back up either side if you know how to manipulate the figures the right way - so we have to make up our own minds about what is best for us.
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Is this how they control people?
by Loki inif religion is, as marx said, the opium of the people, do the borg just have theirs at a better grade than most religions?
is that why it is so hard for people to "kick the habit"?
is that why we feel so strongly about the borg - reformed druggies being the most outspoken and all that?
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Hey Fred
You wrote
"This is Fred Hall. Who is not Drug Free"
That's cool - whatever you need to survive. We are all free to decide which is our drug of choice.
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Who Will Cry For the Babies?
by Farkel inhere's something i found on kent's site just now.
i wrote it december last.
i didn't know that he purloined it but then again, he purloins lots of stuff, and furthermore i don't save most of what i write.
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Hi Farkel
As you can see, I'm a newbie so I haven't had chance to read your posts before. That's my loss, your argumentation is gorgeous. It also strikes at what is a key issue for a lot of exJWs.
Like most good little JWs I had my doubts about this one since a child, but just shoved it into the box. You know the box, the one that lurkes in the corner, full of your doubts and questions. Trouble is, that box is only so big, then one day the pressure becomes too great and its contents fly out, leaving you with a huge mess and a lot of intense emotion. Thank you for putting it so well. Keep posting Farkekl.
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Is this how they control people?
by Loki inif religion is, as marx said, the opium of the people, do the borg just have theirs at a better grade than most religions?
is that why it is so hard for people to "kick the habit"?
is that why we feel so strongly about the borg - reformed druggies being the most outspoken and all that?
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Hi everyone.
I have to ask this one. If religion is, as Marx said, the opium of the people, do the Borg just have theirs at a better grade than most religions? Is that why it is so hard for people to "kick the habit"? Is that why we feel so strongly about the Borg - reformed druggies being the most outspoken and all that?
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WTS Didn't tell Relatives about death for 7 days
by Jang inmark palo < [email protected]> has given me permission to pass this on.
i think what the wts did about notifying relatives is deplorable!!!!!!.
today i received some sad news.
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Thanks for showing us this one. I guess the JWs couldn't possibly risk an "unchristian" funeral, could they? Could it have had anything to do with the Borg using funerals and the fear of death to make its drones even more realiant on them?
Sorry this happened to you Mark.
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MORE ON WHY THE PRESENT SYSTEM IS DOOMED!
by You Know inreality is a hard thing to keep at bay.
yet, many apparently prefer to live in a make-believe world, and so they readily embrace delusions for their own emotional comfort.
anything that seems to threaten the security of their fantasyland is dismissed, ignored, or ridiculed.
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Hi You Know
I know I'm a little behind the times with this topic, but I couldn't resist putting in my piece. I've just checked out the financial site you posted. Lots of pretty graphs which mean nothing without being able to check the raw data, especially when the site ends up being an advertisement (you know what they say about lies and statistics).
Loki
Free to think at last
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Brand New Religion
by BugEye innew religion.
i am hereby instituting a brand new religion.
we will from henceforth be called the church of wendy mommy.. we are a multifaceted organisation and will have our headquarters in tampa florida 'cause i know someone there and the weather is good.. we have 3 leaders or gods if you will.
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Sounds like a great religion. Is it a private thing, or can I join in sometimes?
Loki