Posts by goatshapeddemon

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No one who leaves "the truth" is ever happy?

by El_Guapo in

jw
friends

for years, i was told this..... " anyone who leaves the org is bitter, sad, and worse off, why do you think they come back???

guess what guys i am the opposite, now i quit cold-turkey (looking back, i should have faded correctly) i am planning on going to the memorial this month just to hear all "the friends" tell me how much they missed me.

since i have left the meetings, (jan. was my last meeting, i think).

goatshapeddemon

As some have noted already, JWs for the most part are *not* truly happy. They live in the shadow of happy and tell themselves they feel the sun, and no one has ever felt such sun. They have to say that and they have to believe that - it's justification of effort (our favorite!!!) again. How could they be ruining their lives if they're unhappy too!?!

Wow - holy cow - if average Joe witness knew how much better a shot of happiness they'd have living a normal life, their retention rate would be even worse than it is now.

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Fictious "Universal Sovereignty" Issue Proposed By Watchtower Corporation Is Idiotic

by frankiespeakin in

ok so a big part of the wt corporation ideological structure is the invention of the issue before all creation being "universal sovereignty".. the story goes like this very basically:.

for untold years jehovah's soverneignty was never challenged, then after so many millions of years jehovahs started his earthly creation with adam&eve being the culmination of that work.

soon afterwards satan seduces eve to disobey jehovah and thus we have the very first act of disobedience satan slanders god by telling eve god is selfish as to the reason he forbids eating this other wise nice looking fruit adam joins his wife in the rebellion.. god in his infinite wisdom allows this rebellion because this was a challenge to his sovereingty and so he is allowing a reasonable amount of time to let mankind and angels see for themselves that his rulership is better that satan's.. so basically it is like a bet he has with satan or who's rulership is best, and he's allowing time to prove his is far superior.. well if you look at it logically it don't add up.. 1. if god is going to allow satan to prove his point about who's rulership is better why is he alway interfereing and interveining that's unfair.. 2. god goes on killing sprees of people man women and chilldren (not very smart for some trying to prove his rulership is better for people to follow.. 3. god show himself to be jealous (not a good trait for a ruler to endear himself to people).. 4. god's scare people to except his ruler ship.. and i have even more reason to show the whole idea is a made up sham..

goatshapeddemon

This is interesting. I never stopped to think that Moses didn't really embrace a concept of Satan so when is a talking snake just a talking snake? In Eden apparently. And then it really is the children of Bacteria analogy...

Hmm.

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Temporary Special Pioneer Assignment...?

by goatshapeddemon in

members of my extended family were recently given a temporary special pioneer assignment as a result of the bible school for christian couples (vomit).. anyone got details on how this works?

why temporary?

is it a testing ground for circuit work or a "we dont want you on our payroll for good so we'll use up what you have to offer and dump you back into reg pio status when this definitely not-cushy assignment is over"?.

goatshapeddemon

More details (learned from family):

1) the borg doesn't pay for the move, even if it's cross country

2) no health insurance ... Don't know what they're going to do with ObamaCare - pay the fine? Go on Medicaid? Hah.

3) that 130hrs per month? Has to be in *your assigned congregation*. If you visit friends congregation, even if you go in service, that time counts as a vacation day and does NOT count toward the 130hr requirement.

Next thing you know, they'll be telling the TSPs to get on food stamps and Medicaid, all paid for by ... That's right... All of us taxpayers. It's a public service afterall.

Sonzabeeches.

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She bashed me with the Watchtower then UNFRIENDED me!

by Julia Orwell in

jw
friends

all i've done is posted scriptures on my facebook page for discussion.

this uber-jw 'friend' has engaged me in debate, each time cutting and pasting a whole bunch of wt quotes on whatever our topic is, and i've responded with scriptures and she could only answer with another wt quote, and now today i see she's unfriended me!

all her comments are gone too.

goatshapeddemon

This happened to me. Finally I gave up. She unfriended me, and then refriend-requested me. I told her it was only going to happen again, so I thought it would be better if we stayed unfriended on FB. My general approach has been to make the few JW friends I have left on FB unfriend me, but in certain cases it has been better to force the issue. We got accused of apostasy just for saying what the bible said. Unreasoning ding dongs.

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What were your favorite assembly foods?

by NoRegrets in

so i'm young enough to not remember having hot prepared meals at assemblies, but heard all about it from my parents and the like.

but what i do remember were all of the cold sandwiches and institutional snacks and soda.

remember the food tickets we started to use?

goatshapeddemon

The orange juice the was still mostly frozen was my favorite.

hubby says if they brought back the bean burritos, he would acquiesce to return to the convention!

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Temporary Special Pioneer Assignment...?

by goatshapeddemon in

members of my extended family were recently given a temporary special pioneer assignment as a result of the bible school for christian couples (vomit).. anyone got details on how this works?

why temporary?

is it a testing ground for circuit work or a "we dont want you on our payroll for good so we'll use up what you have to offer and dump you back into reg pio status when this definitely not-cushy assignment is over"?.

goatshapeddemon

Hey problemaddict - not shunned by everyone (i.e. not by immediate family), but by extended family, yes. They said they "would do what the congregation was not willing to do."

thanks for the details BluePill. They're actually being sent within the states to a foreign language territory in an area that is UBER-expensive.

Hubby thinks there will surely be a "good christian couple" who will provide inexpensive lodging. How typical of the WT - offload the financial burden to the friends.

Thanks all!

GSD

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Temporary Special Pioneer Assignment...?

by goatshapeddemon in

members of my extended family were recently given a temporary special pioneer assignment as a result of the bible school for christian couples (vomit).. anyone got details on how this works?

why temporary?

is it a testing ground for circuit work or a "we dont want you on our payroll for good so we'll use up what you have to offer and dump you back into reg pio status when this definitely not-cushy assignment is over"?.

goatshapeddemon

(We're being shunned at present so we can't ask ourselves.)

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Temporary Special Pioneer Assignment...?

by goatshapeddemon in

members of my extended family were recently given a temporary special pioneer assignment as a result of the bible school for christian couples (vomit).. anyone got details on how this works?

why temporary?

is it a testing ground for circuit work or a "we dont want you on our payroll for good so we'll use up what you have to offer and dump you back into reg pio status when this definitely not-cushy assignment is over"?.

goatshapeddemon

Members of my extended family were recently given a Temporary Special Pioneer assignment as a result of the Bible School for Christian Couples (vomit).

Anyone got details on how this works? Why temporary? Is it a testing ground for Circuit Work or a "we dont want you on our payroll for good so we'll use up what you have to offer and dump you back into reg pio status when this definitely not-cushy assignment is over"?

Hours requirement?

Stipend?

Housing assistance (housing is terribly expensive where they're headed)?

Insurance?

Transportation?

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Josephus Does Write About Jesus Christ

by villagegirl in

i just happen to have the complete works of josephus, right here in front of me.

josephus wrote several books including the antiquities of the jews.

chapter 3 under sedition of the jews against pontius pilate; concerning christ .... paragraph 3 quote : "now, there was about this time, jesus a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure.

goatshapeddemon

I mean, what Jeffro said.

Sorry, VG. I was all excited about that passage too. I have since given up on the pursuit.

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Josephus Does Write About Jesus Christ

by villagegirl in

i just happen to have the complete works of josephus, right here in front of me.

josephus wrote several books including the antiquities of the jews.

chapter 3 under sedition of the jews against pontius pilate; concerning christ .... paragraph 3 quote : "now, there was about this time, jesus a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure.

goatshapeddemon

Moreover I believe that particular passage is of dubious authenticity. Spurious, as it were.