I would like to NOT outlive any of my kids.
LovesDubs
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what's on your list of things to do before you die?
by fern in#1 to visit ireland.
#2 go to the kentucky derby....with good seats, not the infield.. i have others but they are less important..
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I lost the right to raise my JW kid........
by oompa inactually he is hardly a kid anymore.....and is in bethel dammit!..........but why is it that when i was a good jw account servant i could guide, influence, direct him... totally... in all religious matters......which of course is why he believes what he believes and is at bethel (damm i was good huh!
) but now that i am faded and a vocal apostate (not dfd but called apostate behind my back) i am supposed to shut up and not share any of my new found real truths with him?.
my ex-wife hardass jw just gave me grief for this, my hardass current jw wife just gave me grief for this, my elder/dad gave me grief for this....and even my bethel son gave me grief for this....ya know i think jesus said you should not put your bright light under a basket!....but they all tell me to.
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LovesDubs
And you are going to obey what they say why?
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SICK JWS
by minimus inwere the majority of witnesses in your hall somehow sick?
either physically, emotionally or mentally?.
most jws i knew had some unexplainable ailment or 2. and a number suffered from depression!!
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LovesDubs
There was nothing SPECULATIVE or HEARSAY about what I knew of the JWs in not one but THREE different congregations over the course of 13 years in, and when you spend that much time with people you know ALL of them. And they love to talk about their ailments. Many MANY were alcoholics. Many many MANY were depressed, though they always said they would be better if they only went out in service more, or studied more, or prayed more or whatever "spiritual" remedy they should be taking under the guise of saying what they thought you wanted to hear. I heard so much about homeopathic remedies for everything. They didnt of course go to see a SHRINK because the WT says not to and to do so would endanger your spirituality, so B12 and St. Johns Wart and other non-spiritually threatening and useless remedies were oft recommended. One woman I knew from the get go who was of the ANNOINTED mind you, had every ailment known to mankind and was always swooning from one thing or the other. She came to live with me for a few months with her husband and she brought with her an entire cabinet full of bottles of shit I never heard of. It looked more like voodoo.
Yep... no speculation there.
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Mrs.Chickennest has cancer
by Thechickennest inmy wife and i learned this week that she is suffering from a large malignant tumor in her sinuses.
the cancer has spread to her lymth nodes and the pet scan indicates a mass on her left lung as well.
the sinus cancer is called sinonasal undifferentiated carcinoma.
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LovesDubs
Nobody is ever prepared for this. After my sister in law at age 44 died of pancreatic cancer, that they didnt even look for in a woman that young, and left three young children behind...I panic every time I have a pain anywhere. :( It always happens "to somebody else" you know? Now I know thats just soooo not the case and we fool ourselves.
Im so sorry to hear about this. I sure hope the JW relatives arent pounding the blood issue into this already scary scenario for you.
She doesnt need the stress...thats for damn sure.
hugs and more hugs to you both.
LD
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should jws buy christmas stamps?
by badboy inbecause christmas is of pagan origins,should jws buy stamps with christmas themes?
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LovesDubs
I remember buying stamps in the winter when I was a JW and making a point of choosing the ones that were "winter themed" to be "safe" with snowmen, snow flakes and skiers and the like on them LOL!
People are starving and this is an issue to JWs??
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If ur child died,would u visit the grave and always "talk" to them?
by fedorE inalthough i still have doubts there is life after death, i believe i would be hanging on to every last vestige of my son that i could and that means talking to him.
talking into the air and crying.
realizing this is his final resting place.
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LovesDubs
I couldnt bear the thought of burying one of my children. I would have them cremated and kept with me. And I would talk to them as I do believe there is an energy that remains. We dont understand it...but then what is this force that keeps us functioning in our bodies? I have told my children repeatedly not to bury me but to cremate me and scatter my ashes on the sea. So they wouldnt feel obliged to visit anywhere and they could live anywhere they wanted without giving my remains any thought.
A couple years ago, a dear friend of my son's, only a month after she got her license at age 16, was killed in a car crash. A tragic, avoidable death in an unclearly marked road construction zone. I have never seen such an outpouring of grief from a community, and the inconsolable grief of my son and his friends over her death. And they saw how easily it could happen to them. It was very sobering. They tried so hard to "replace" her at her moms home...spending nights there, cleaning for her, being teenagers around her...but there was nothing they could do to assuage the loss for that mom. I never got to meet the mom. I went to the memorial they had at the high school, which was packed to the rafters with kids wearing pink shirts with her name on them. The mother actually found the courage to talk to us, and she said "people keep telling me she is in a better place now...she is NOT in a better place! She was LOVED here! CHERISHED here and she should BE here! God should NOT have taken my baby! She didnt DESERVE this!" And it was all I could do to not run hysterical from there thinking of my own children. Nothing on the planet matches that grief.
I hope to God I NEVER have to deal with that...because I wouldnt be able to.
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Ran into the JW table at San Diego airport...
by Confession inyes, my ladyfriend and i were entering the san diego airport for our flight home to phoenix late yesterday afternoon, when i noticed a forty-ish man and woman sitting down behind a table loaded with wts publications.
i stopped to glance over them with joy.
i made familiar comments about some of the publications, noting the newer soft covers and trying to casually engage the pair in conversation.
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LovesDubs
Three years ago, my then 5th grader and I had a table set out in front of our local Publix Food Store, selling candy to raise money for his trip to Washington DC with the patrols. We were there for several days, including the day before Hurricane Wilma hit here and so did a really good business with the TONS of people coming in and out of the store. Not 10 feet away was a bench. And every day we were there, there was a man who was a Jehovahs Witness since he was holding several Watchtowers while he sat there, who didnt ONCE engage anybody. Some friends came by occasionally and then he talked, but other than that...nothing. He looked at his watch often. Precisely at 6pm each night he would use his cell phone, call his ride and get picked up. He was there the whole time we were which was from 2:30 after school til he left at 6. I would bet ANY money he was counting all that time and yet never once spoke to anybody or placed anything. Do they really CARE that they arent saving anybody? Hell no they dont care. Is there any urgency? Hell no...only a desire to post hours.
Hell I coulda done a better job than HE did just giving out tracts with candy bars LOL!
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LovesDubs
I get that Fark....I do. After awhile its not enough to know that you have touched lives and planted seeds and made a difference in God knows how many JWs and EXs lives...you kinda need something you can SEE. Some actual measurable fruits of your labor. Pie charts and statistics would be nice :)
I got on the internet in 1996. AOL had the most amazing annoying wild chat rooms going then and I was in there arguing and cajoling and pulling people out of the frey like a crazy woman. Then they started to "monitor" the damn chat rooms because the JWs were whining that we werent playing fair, and their idea of debate was to quash the opinions of others as "offensive" and so that medium died. Then there were discussion boards and those too got monitored out of usefulness.
I too helped a lot of people out of the Borg as many before us have helped us...like Randy W and Ray F and others. But now its like you put it out there and hope the people who need to read it do and are helped by it as was its intent.
So I guess its of little consolation to you Fark, but we DO appreciate your input and we DO miss you when you arent posting here. And thank you for all your gifts.
LD
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Kingdom Hall Weddings - November Kingdom Ministry
by BluesBrother inif this has already been posted up - then i missed it.. this question box left me .
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LovesDubs
Ok... lets walk down the aisle to THIS little ditty..
"FIRM and DETERMINED in this time of the enddddddddddd...."
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Kingdom Hall Weddings - November Kingdom Ministry
by BluesBrother inif this has already been posted up - then i missed it.. this question box left me .
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LovesDubs
Control control and even more control. Gives you warm fuzzies dont it? And now the ENTIRE congregation is invited??? and what if you dont want to FEED the entire congregation? what if you invited only certain ONES to the reception? now you have to deal with hurt feelings of those who werent invited to the reception?
That sucks.