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  Video to Promote e-Petition re: UK Charitable Status of JW's

  by cantleave in

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  kramer

  @chariklo - yeah you are maybe right I guess it's not a true debate and I don't tend to get involved in them , as though I can respect many arguments put forward on theological grounds, we can read and research and come to our own conclusions, but the sort of accusations regarding a certain elite just wanting to get rich and JWs harbour child molestors are just a bit daft...sure ther are some examples of where the society has been naive, but this is not an institutional strategy of protecting offenders ..

  I wil have to reiew the video, which I will do over the next few weeks and give this thread my comments ( i am sure the rest of the board are waiting with baited breath :) ).. the problem is its a bit boring , and the production values aren't that great.... and also it wont achieve anything.. if the UK anti-JW crew want to make any impact then for a starter work certain reporters at the Daily Mail and The Sun, not post badly produced whiney videos to youtube to encourage a meaningless petition that is currently about 99,800 short of a meanlingless action being taken by UK politicians

  having said that .. i guess this is this guy's ministry.. so if he wants to then let him get on with it...

  But I am most definetly not a troll
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  Video to Promote e-Petition re: UK Charitable Status of JW's

  by cantleave in

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  @amelia - Hi Amelia, I am by no means a troll, I was wondering why you might think I was? Isn't it just because i often, but not always, take a contrary view to the prevailing one on this website ? Surely that's just debate isn't it, not trolling?
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  Video to Promote e-Petition re: UK Charitable Status of JW's

  by cantleave in

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  hi... sorry, i only log in here occasionally, its not a matter of hit and run, more a matter of post and look back in a couple of weeks....and also, whats up with saying somebody doesn't have the intelligence to defend a position without knowing a thing about them? thats a bit rude. Anyway, if you really want me to point out a couple of inaccuracies I will , but to do that i would have to rewatch it, please let me know whether anyone is interested in me doing that.

  But well done on having a go at this either way - although e-petitions are one of the most useless methods of trying to get any change to UK policies, 100,000 signatures to get a debate in the commons - they worked to influence governments on dropping road charging plans, but thats about it.
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  Video to Promote e-Petition re: UK Charitable Status of JW's

  by cantleave in

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  :) only another 99,824 to go on top of your 176 and you may get a question in Parliament about it. It would be much more powerful if you made it 100% accurate.
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  A JW story of brainwashing and escape.

  by Frozenout in

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  the knock at the door that turned my parents into brainwashed fanatics - and nearly cost my life.

  lying in my hospital bed, in the throes of an exhausting labour, i was in agony and feeling very frightened.

  i'd gone into labour ten weeks early and my twins were in the breech position, so it was likely i would need a caesarean.

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  These accounts would be a lot more powerful if they kep to the facts and didn't make things up..e.g 'I was allowed to do my gcse s'
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  Max Larson died today at 96 yrs...Watchtower President since 2000

  by williamhconley in

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  watchtower society of new york president max larson died today at the age of 96.. served in bethel since 1938 (73 yrs at bethel) long before geoffrey jackson & anthony morris of the gb were even born.. http://www.jw-archive.org/2011/09/bro-max-larson-died-today.html.

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  "never heard of him"... exactly, thats kind of good dont you think?
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  WTS corporations in the Netherlands

  by Gorbatchov in

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  many international corporations settles their headquarters as a postadress in the netherlands due to tax reasons (like ikea international, deutsche bank, the rolling stones and u2).. the corporations settles tax arrangements with the dutch government.. i found a watchtower bv finance holding company at a postadress facility in amsterdam.

  this could mean that the wts has a tax arrangement with the dutch government for their international finance.. also i found the following watchtower corporations at the dutch watchtower branche office.. - worldwide educative services foundation.

  - society for spreading the gospel .

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  do charities pay tax in the netherlands? they dont here in the UK. O if you were to try andreduce your tax bill it would probably be better to do so by incorporating in a zero tax zone..
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  WHY IT'S TIME TO LEAVE THE UK !

  by Hairyhegoat in

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  these comments are the reason why my family are leaving the uk, the comments are not mine but give a insight to what a dump the uk has become... i'm a 22 year old male and left the uk at 21 to live in australia and again like many people have said on here.

  it is one of the best things i could have done.

  the pay in the uk is disgusting.. the average pay here for a very average job is $20 an hour that is 12 an hour, thats just for stacking shelves at supermarkets.

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  did you complete secondary school HHG?

  seriously, oh my goodness what has Brittania done to make you so cross?.. if Aus is so great , I wonder why there is about a couple of million antipodeans here in London?? ANyway, good luck down under..
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  Watch Tower Society Facing Criminal Charges and Indictment in Australia

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  andersonsinfo is reporting the following news about the "criminal charges and indictment of the watch tower society in australia" by taking some extracts from different parts of jehovah's witness, steven unthank's blog site, http://www.jwnews.net.

  please go to the blog to understand the "indictment" and for detailed reading there is much more information found in a:.

  pdf version of the 664 page document "the submission 2011" being the:.

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  in my experience anything that is written in multiple fonts, with bold, underlining, italics and different sizes is the work of a crazy person..
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  Sitting on the fence

  by INDYpendent in

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  new here; this is my first post.

  i signed up with the hope of getting some of your thoughts regarding how to proceed with an ongoing situation.

  a little background: i have been baptized for about twenty years, or is it twenty-one, i can't recall.

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  if you really did see an adult sexually assaulting a minor, I would say confront him with it , report it to the police, and if he doesn't speak to the elders.

  and whats the resurrection of Cain?