That is a nice account.
kramer
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Uganda: Pablo - A Visit By Jehovah's Tireless Witnesses
by Bangalore inuganda: pablo - a visit by jehovah's tireless witnesses.http://allafrica.com/stories/201402140147.html.
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Congratulations Andy Murray!!
by cedars inthe first british winner of wimbledon in 77 years.. it's been a long time coming!
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yes, i know, the poster said first british wimbeldon winner, not first male british wimbeldon winner :)
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Today's WT Study (Who is the FDS - Sep 2013)
by ohnightdivine inplease share how your wt study went today...
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assuming the earth can hold say 30bn, do we really need a king ^ judge for each 208 of us? especially as a fter the 1,000 years we will be perfect and will never sin again?
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UK Elders. Recommendation Letters.. Freedom of Information Act.
by kramer infrom my experience, elders dont want to reveal the contents of a recommendation letter.
but as each congregation is a legally constituted charity and hence public body they are open to all the disclosure obligations of other public bodes.
do any uk elders or ex elders have any experience of people who demanded or wanted to see their recommendation letters, or who have gone through the process of a freedom of information request to get to see these?.
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thanks for the reply cantleave, the S8 is the form to record interest or not at homes of members of the public,... I am referring to the letters sent between congregation secretaries when a publisher moves congregations.
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UK Elders. Recommendation Letters.. Freedom of Information Act.
by kramer infrom my experience, elders dont want to reveal the contents of a recommendation letter.
but as each congregation is a legally constituted charity and hence public body they are open to all the disclosure obligations of other public bodes.
do any uk elders or ex elders have any experience of people who demanded or wanted to see their recommendation letters, or who have gone through the process of a freedom of information request to get to see these?.
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From my experience, elders dont want to reveal the contents of a recommendation letter. But as each congregation is a legally constituted charity and hence public body they are open to all the disclosure obligations of other public bodes. Do any UK Elders or Ex Elders have any experience of people who demanded or wanted to see their recommendation letters, or who have gone through the process of a freedom of information request to get to see these?
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Congratulations Andy Murray!!
by cedars inthe first british winner of wimbledon in 77 years.. it's been a long time coming!
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There have been at least 3 other British winners of Wimbeldon in the last 77 years, I can think of three , there are probably more
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@angus - out of interest , how did your discussions with hampshire police go , on the 'mentally diseased' issue go? Did they take it to the CPS? If so how are the CPS progressing the matter?
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@chariklo - yeah you are maybe right I guess it's not a true debate and I don't tend to get involved in them , as though I can respect many arguments put forward on theological grounds, we can read and research and come to our own conclusions, but the sort of accusations regarding a certain elite just wanting to get rich and JWs harbour child molestors are just a bit daft...sure ther are some examples of where the society has been naive, but this is not an institutional strategy of protecting offenders ..
I wil have to reiew the video, which I will do over the next few weeks and give this thread my comments ( i am sure the rest of the board are waiting with baited breath :) ).. the problem is its a bit boring , and the production values aren't that great.... and also it wont achieve anything.. if the UK anti-JW crew want to make any impact then for a starter work certain reporters at the Daily Mail and The Sun, not post badly produced whiney videos to youtube to encourage a meaningless petition that is currently about 99,800 short of a meanlingless action being taken by UK politicians
having said that .. i guess this is this guy's ministry.. so if he wants to then let him get on with it...
But I am most definetly not a troll
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@amelia - Hi Amelia, I am by no means a troll, I was wondering why you might think I was? Isn't it just because i often, but not always, take a contrary view to the prevailing one on this website ? Surely that's just debate isn't it, not trolling?
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hi... sorry, i only log in here occasionally, its not a matter of hit and run, more a matter of post and look back in a couple of weeks....and also, whats up with saying somebody doesn't have the intelligence to defend a position without knowing a thing about them? thats a bit rude. Anyway, if you really want me to point out a couple of inaccuracies I will , but to do that i would have to rewatch it, please let me know whether anyone is interested in me doing that.
But well done on having a go at this either way - although e-petitions are one of the most useless methods of trying to get any change to UK policies, 100,000 signatures to get a debate in the commons - they worked to influence governments on dropping road charging plans, but thats about it.