Just remind me again, is the society nearly bankrupt and fighting for survival, or banking hundreds of millions if not billions through donation and property deals in London and New York?... I do forget things..
kramer
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The Governing Body's Currant Money Grab From The Rank And File Will Only Get Worse And More Oppressive
by frankiespeakin inthe governing body are fighting for corporation survival here, and now and they are only going to get worse as the child molestation lawsuits must be paid out so expect more in real eastate sell offs and kingdom hall scemes to rip off the rank and file for every single penny they can get out of them praying on their extreme gulibilty to the limits another words to the breaking point.. this type of double dealing with the hard earned contributions given to support the kingdom halls will very quickly back fire on them causeing more extreme measures to pay the plaintiffs in child molestation lawsuits.
it is a snow ball rolling down the hill..
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Right Wing growth in UK and Europe.
by snare&racket inanyone else finding it troubling?
anyone feel it represents their views?.
is it being reported in usa/australia etc?.
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kramer
There is no way silly minority parties will get parliament seats..... They only do Ok in Europe because of the pr. Voting system, and the council voting methods let them in a bit.....
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Uganda: Pablo - A Visit By Jehovah's Tireless Witnesses
by Bangalore inuganda: pablo - a visit by jehovah's tireless witnesses.http://allafrica.com/stories/201402140147.html.
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kramer
That is a nice account.
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Congratulations Andy Murray!!
by cedars inthe first british winner of wimbledon in 77 years.. it's been a long time coming!
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kramer
yes, i know, the poster said first british wimbeldon winner, not first male british wimbeldon winner :)
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Today's WT Study (Who is the FDS - Sep 2013)
by ohnightdivine inplease share how your wt study went today...
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kramer
assuming the earth can hold say 30bn, do we really need a king ^ judge for each 208 of us? especially as a fter the 1,000 years we will be perfect and will never sin again?
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UK Elders. Recommendation Letters.. Freedom of Information Act.
by kramer infrom my experience, elders dont want to reveal the contents of a recommendation letter.
but as each congregation is a legally constituted charity and hence public body they are open to all the disclosure obligations of other public bodes.
do any uk elders or ex elders have any experience of people who demanded or wanted to see their recommendation letters, or who have gone through the process of a freedom of information request to get to see these?.
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kramer
thanks for the reply cantleave, the S8 is the form to record interest or not at homes of members of the public,... I am referring to the letters sent between congregation secretaries when a publisher moves congregations.
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UK Elders. Recommendation Letters.. Freedom of Information Act.
by kramer infrom my experience, elders dont want to reveal the contents of a recommendation letter.
but as each congregation is a legally constituted charity and hence public body they are open to all the disclosure obligations of other public bodes.
do any uk elders or ex elders have any experience of people who demanded or wanted to see their recommendation letters, or who have gone through the process of a freedom of information request to get to see these?.
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kramer
From my experience, elders dont want to reveal the contents of a recommendation letter. But as each congregation is a legally constituted charity and hence public body they are open to all the disclosure obligations of other public bodes. Do any UK Elders or Ex Elders have any experience of people who demanded or wanted to see their recommendation letters, or who have gone through the process of a freedom of information request to get to see these?
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Congratulations Andy Murray!!
by cedars inthe first british winner of wimbledon in 77 years.. it's been a long time coming!
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kramer
There have been at least 3 other British winners of Wimbeldon in the last 77 years, I can think of three , there are probably more
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kramer
@angus - out of interest , how did your discussions with hampshire police go , on the 'mentally diseased' issue go? Did they take it to the CPS? If so how are the CPS progressing the matter?
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@chariklo - yeah you are maybe right I guess it's not a true debate and I don't tend to get involved in them , as though I can respect many arguments put forward on theological grounds, we can read and research and come to our own conclusions, but the sort of accusations regarding a certain elite just wanting to get rich and JWs harbour child molestors are just a bit daft...sure ther are some examples of where the society has been naive, but this is not an institutional strategy of protecting offenders ..
I wil have to reiew the video, which I will do over the next few weeks and give this thread my comments ( i am sure the rest of the board are waiting with baited breath :) ).. the problem is its a bit boring , and the production values aren't that great.... and also it wont achieve anything.. if the UK anti-JW crew want to make any impact then for a starter work certain reporters at the Daily Mail and The Sun, not post badly produced whiney videos to youtube to encourage a meaningless petition that is currently about 99,800 short of a meanlingless action being taken by UK politicians
having said that .. i guess this is this guy's ministry.. so if he wants to then let him get on with it...
But I am most definetly not a troll