Isn’t the google trend search more to do with many/most jw.org visitors were jws , and when they launched the app tablet and smartphone users stopped using the website? I haven’t been on it for years
kramer
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What is the current pulse in the organization with the reductions?
by SouthCentral ini have not seen jehovah’s witnesses in my neighborhood for several years now.
it appears that the cart witnessing has taken over.
congregations are being consolidated and witnesses are being forced to travel a greater distance than before.the burdens/privileges of elders seem to be ever increasing!.
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JW elders told abused girl’s parents not to report sex offender (another one)
by Tahoe inhttps://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/jehovahs-witness-elders-told-abused-1636907.
a bradford man's sex offence against a little girl was kept quiet for 23 years because elders of the jehovah's witnesses church persuaded her parents not to report him, a court was told.. robert lee's crime in the forest of dean was not revealed until the victim had grown up and went to the police, gloucester crown court heard on friday.. .
both the victim's family and lee were jehovah's witnesses at that time, said prosecutor kerry barker.. he told the court that having avoided justice, lee, formerly of coleford, but now of alexandra road, bradford, went on to commit further child sex offences in 2008 and 2016.. lee, who used the surname howarth at that time, admitted indecent assault of the girl in march 1995 in coleford when he was aged just 17.. sentencing lee to two years jail suspended for two years and ordering him to sign the sex offender register for 10 years judge ian lawrie qc said he was 'concerned' at the church's advice to the mother not to report him.. he also placed lee under a 10 year sexual harm prevention order.. “i've raised concerns about how this came to the attention of your church authorities and was not reported.
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kramer
There is no obligation to report child abuse in the uk, except in certain professions, social services, teachers, health workers etc
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WT and child protection
by Phoebe inmy friend has just returned from mid week meeting and emailed me to say 'this was released at meeting tonight' and sent me a 3 page document entitled 'jehovah's witness scripturally based position on child protection'.
has anyone else had this.
i'm in the uk.
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kramer
It would be interesring to have a q&a session on this document
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4 j dubs at jdubs at the door
by JunkYardDog in4 zombies at the door.
i come out with the nwt and ask who wants to talk about the bible.
if you don't want to talk about the bible why the fuck did you knock and counting time.
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kramer
I think the poster drunk too much before he posted. Poor chap
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Personal Data Permission (Spain)
by paradiseseeker ini had the meeting yesterday and there it was announced that there will be a new law passed in spain regarding personal data.
that law makes it compulsory for the wt spanish branch to collect a signed permission from the publishers to keep and utilize personal data.
no choice was given to us, we were just told to make sure we hand in our signed permissions before may 18th.
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kramer
This is a Europe wide thing , google ‘GDPR’. The upside is that the regulations also come with individuals having the right to require organisations to erase data held on you. This should be interesting.
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Does the Watchtower have an official position on Alcoholics Anonymous?
by JeffT ini ask because i'm working in a 28 day residential addiction treatment center and one of my co-workers is studying with the jw's.
he does not know i'm an xjw.
i suspect that at some point they're going to tell him he can't go to aa meetings anymore.
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kramer
I think most elders see the benefits of AA, when I have discussed it with them they conveniently avoid the point that by their definition AA is interfaith.
Although some of their literature on alcohol addiction is clearly drawn from AA literature
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Deceased circuit over seers
by Warren Wilson indoes anyone remember.
alex docherty.
albert broad.
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kramer
@jookbeard Alan stokes is still alive - he made me an ms a few years ago -
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Religious PTSD
by Warren Wilson ini have been clear now for 22 years but i am still obsessed.
after going on and on about my experiences to friends and family i have finally realised that no one is interested.. they have won.
no one cares about my ptsd or my suicide attempts or my alcohosm.. i have no one to talk to about this but i really need to get the infection out of my system because it is killing me..
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kramer
+1 for what wmeubyjh said, spot on, really good advice. Get the drugs sorted it really helps you get perspective on ones other life problems. I was a drinker a few years ago, even when I thought I as sober, I clearly wasn’t when I think about some of the things I did and said. Deprioritise the cult, work on the drink (having said that , there are so Many parallels between AA and jw , I find it quite funny). I am an alcoholic that doesn’t regularly drink, and it feels great, great that I know how to manage it now, not that it’s not a problem. AA brings you into contact with people who have learned to manage, not overcome.
importantly, it gives us perspective , you are not defined by the cult you joined, you have choices ..
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another business idea for watchtower PLC
by stan livedeath inits been mentioned before---care homes.
in the uk there are a few ( no idea how many ) jireh care homes--loosely connected with the watchtower.. but take this on board.
the dubs are an ever aging customer base.. in the uk, lots of the ageing population end their years in privately run care homes.
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kramer
“slimboyfat7 hours ago7 hours ago7 hours ago
I mentioned this on another thread a couple of hours ago. The HQ in Chelmsford could be converted into a care home. The Christadelphians have done this. In fact care homes seems to be their main charitable activity now.
why would you spend £95m on a site, then convert it to something that might make a couple of hundred grand a year if you are lucky, as a care home??
chelmsford will get sold in 5 years for c.£50m
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another business idea for watchtower PLC
by stan livedeath inits been mentioned before---care homes.
in the uk there are a few ( no idea how many ) jireh care homes--loosely connected with the watchtower.. but take this on board.
the dubs are an ever aging customer base.. in the uk, lots of the ageing population end their years in privately run care homes.
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kramer
Sorry guys, care homes in the UK are not a get rich quick scheme, private equity has made some money in the sector, but also got many fingers burned, there aren’t enough potential jw customers that can afford to top up the government allowances to make this an attractive segment to target. An operator may get to break even with some volunteer labour, that’s about it. As an investor, I know a bit about this sector.