kramer

Joined

• started 8 topics
• posted 185 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by kramer

• 
  31

  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  kramer

  With enough sensible stuff to criticise JWs on, why do some XJWs come up with BS stories like this?
• 
  31

  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  kramer

  But, this isn’t really true is it?
• 
  21

  Cowardly Change of Policy in the UK

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the britain branch has called a confidential meeting tonight with a controversial announcement.

  the message is of such import that it was transmitted by word of mouth only, nothing in writing, ears only.

  a decision made by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses and transmitted orally down the chain of command, a decision proving the leadership of this spirit lead body.. the gdpr laws in the uk have been interpreted by wt lawyers so that all record keeping relating to the public has been banned, telephone witnessing and letter writing also, forbidden.. now in a show of supreme bravado the publishers are to be informed that if they wish to, if they dare, they may write to people at their own risk.. bear in mind, nothing is in writing.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  kramer

  I have heard from two people that still attend that they are having an additional 30 minute session in individual ministry groups before their weekend meeting.
• 
  21

  Cowardly Change of Policy in the UK

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the britain branch has called a confidential meeting tonight with a controversial announcement.

  the message is of such import that it was transmitted by word of mouth only, nothing in writing, ears only.

  a decision made by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses and transmitted orally down the chain of command, a decision proving the leadership of this spirit lead body.. the gdpr laws in the uk have been interpreted by wt lawyers so that all record keeping relating to the public has been banned, telephone witnessing and letter writing also, forbidden.. now in a show of supreme bravado the publishers are to be informed that if they wish to, if they dare, they may write to people at their own risk.. bear in mind, nothing is in writing.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  kramer

  It’s being communicated to congregations at meetings through zoom, starting from Tomorrow (Saturday)
• 
  23

  Why go online

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so why do you think org went online?

  they were selling khs left and right for years.

  plus video talks and new building for filming videos.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  kramer

  oh dear...

  Pistolpete - there is software that is used to monitor truck drivers to tell when they are sleepy at the wheel. Presumabley the owner of the truck company did not design the software, just gets the infomation it collects. Therefore, I think WT might get access to software it can use to monitor people's faces and discern how they are listening/engaging.
• 
  7

  The Guardian: Former Jehovah's Witness elders call for mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/10/former-jehovahs-witness-elders-call-for-mandatory-reporting-of-child-sexual-abuse?fbclid=iwar13k3rzferkzvjj5lbxegzhjr1dkfw34gqchgms4gdmhjufcv24hpzjcco.

  two former jehovah’s witness elders have called for mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse, saying the organisation believes it is “answerable only to god”.. duncan corbett, who was an elder for 18 years, told the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse that the protection of minors and the handling of abuse claims must be taken out of the church’s hands.

  “let them deal with the sin and the authorities handle the crime,” he told a hearing in london.. lloyd evans, another former elder who now campaigns against religious fundamentalism, said: “this is a group that feels they are answerable only to god … they don’t feel as though they need to yield to any regulations that are imposed on them.”.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  kramer

  @phizzy, it’s not going to happen Mandatory Reporting has been considered many times in the UK and consistently rejected, for many good reasons. Don’t get too excited!
• 
  4

  UK, Modern Slavery Act 1915

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have just had a glitch in logging in to my bank account.

  the consequence of which was to start from scratch and re-register.

  on doing so i looked at the small print and noted that the bank was obliged to include a passage on the modern slavery act of 2015. the purpose of which is not simply to avoid and exclude complicity with human trafficking but to treat all customers, staff and business partners with appropriate human consideration and dignity.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  kramer

  And the Domestic Abuse Bill doesn’t cover religious coercion, it’s family matters , primarily in the Family Court.
• 
  4

  UK, Modern Slavery Act 1915

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have just had a glitch in logging in to my bank account.

  the consequence of which was to start from scratch and re-register.

  on doing so i looked at the small print and noted that the bank was obliged to include a passage on the modern slavery act of 2015. the purpose of which is not simply to avoid and exclude complicity with human trafficking but to treat all customers, staff and business partners with appropriate human consideration and dignity.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  kramer

  
  

  No, it’s just because they don’t because it ISN’T a requirement, they aren’t legally obliged to do so. Many charities voluntarily publish a policy, CCofJW chooses not to.
• 
  23

  Why go online

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so why do you think org went online?

  they were selling khs left and right for years.

  plus video talks and new building for filming videos.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  kramer

  None of the above, people prefer to read online and it’s much cheaper to deliver. The halls will all be open post COVID. Control and contributions won’t work with a video only model.
• 
  16

  JW Memorial Gallery

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jwdotorg released a picture gallery with dozens of images from around the world of jws celebrating ('commemorating') via zoom, organized by continent:.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/2020-memorial-commemoration-international-photo-gallery/.

  the vast majority of photos show the people's faces, but this european 'brother' is a rare exception.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  kramer

  This thread has some of the lamest criticisms-

  -firstly the chap is not a ‘brother’ he has a beard, witnesses aren’t pictured as having beards in ANY WT pictures

  - arranged and photographed perfectly, like something come out of North Korea ??? Or any other publication that publishes photographs

  - doing alright for himself, top of range Apple? It’s not , it’s not even a top range iMac??

  - white wine? You need some glasses

  Once again, these petty comments make opposers look silly - well done for the more substantive comments in this thread