I think most elders see the benefits of AA, when I have discussed it with them they conveniently avoid the point that by their definition AA is interfaith.
Although some of their literature on alcohol addiction is clearly drawn from AA literature
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Does the Watchtower have an official position on Alcoholics Anonymous?
by JeffT ini ask because i'm working in a 28 day residential addiction treatment center and one of my co-workers is studying with the jw's.
he does not know i'm an xjw.
i suspect that at some point they're going to tell him he can't go to aa meetings anymore.
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Deceased circuit over seers
by Warren Wilson indoes anyone remember.
alex docherty.
albert broad.
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@jookbeard Alan stokes is still alive - he made me an ms a few years ago -
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Religious PTSD
by Warren Wilson ini have been clear now for 22 years but i am still obsessed.
after going on and on about my experiences to friends and family i have finally realised that no one is interested.. they have won.
no one cares about my ptsd or my suicide attempts or my alcohosm.. i have no one to talk to about this but i really need to get the infection out of my system because it is killing me..
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+1 for what wmeubyjh said, spot on, really good advice. Get the drugs sorted it really helps you get perspective on ones other life problems. I was a drinker a few years ago, even when I thought I as sober, I clearly wasn’t when I think about some of the things I did and said. Deprioritise the cult, work on the drink (having said that , there are so Many parallels between AA and jw , I find it quite funny). I am an alcoholic that doesn’t regularly drink, and it feels great, great that I know how to manage it now, not that it’s not a problem. AA brings you into contact with people who have learned to manage, not overcome.
importantly, it gives us perspective , you are not defined by the cult you joined, you have choices ..
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another business idea for watchtower PLC
by stan livedeath inits been mentioned before---care homes.
in the uk there are a few ( no idea how many ) jireh care homes--loosely connected with the watchtower.. but take this on board.
the dubs are an ever aging customer base.. in the uk, lots of the ageing population end their years in privately run care homes.
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kramer
“slimboyfat7 hours ago7 hours ago7 hours ago
I mentioned this on another thread a couple of hours ago. The HQ in Chelmsford could be converted into a care home. The Christadelphians have done this. In fact care homes seems to be their main charitable activity now.
why would you spend £95m on a site, then convert it to something that might make a couple of hundred grand a year if you are lucky, as a care home??
chelmsford will get sold in 5 years for c.£50m
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another business idea for watchtower PLC
by stan livedeath inits been mentioned before---care homes.
in the uk there are a few ( no idea how many ) jireh care homes--loosely connected with the watchtower.. but take this on board.
the dubs are an ever aging customer base.. in the uk, lots of the ageing population end their years in privately run care homes.
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Sorry guys, care homes in the UK are not a get rich quick scheme, private equity has made some money in the sector, but also got many fingers burned, there aren’t enough potential jw customers that can afford to top up the government allowances to make this an attractive segment to target. An operator may get to break even with some volunteer labour, that’s about it. As an investor, I know a bit about this sector.
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Sunday's Watchtower Study March 18... Another Money Appeal
by BluesBrother injanuary 2018 issue "why give to the one who has everything?
an unashamed contribution appeal... this one with the most manipulative language i can imagine... it may have been commented on before, but i am going to anyway.. p5 quote.
"would you not agree that jehovah is worthy of all the glory and honor that we can give him by offering the best that we have?
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Hey @thefallguy, do you have any info on the ‘very heavy losses in the Wall Street casino’?if so, please share
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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues
by jp1692 inin the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.
it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?
my goodness.
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kramer
Here in Europe , we have a really effective way of stopping mass shootings, to the extent that they are incredibly rare. We generally don’t allow people to own guns, It really cuts down on mass shootings, even those annoying isolated incidents that kill up at 10,000 or so in stranger countries. Even when we do allow people to be armed they seem to handle it better and seem more keen to make cuckoo clocks, chocolate, money and go skiing than kill people , such as in Switzerland. Maybe that’s the answer for the US, don’t allow people to buy guns, or start a cuckoo clock industry. Strangely the government still don’t seem until to rise up against the people here, despite our lack of guns.
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Side effect of Downsizing......$$$
by Tech49 inso here is a tidbit you will all just love!.
we all are hearing of the trend right now to ¨downsize¨ the congregations...ie... eliminate by combining, in order to blah blah blah... .
here is what you didnt know: every time a congregation is dissolved, for whatever reason, including merging or dispersing, wt makes money!
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Why would anyone who attends a meeting and donates think they own anything? People who contribute are just donors and those doing ministry, volunteers, like with other charities. If I donate to and volunteer for my local homeless shelter I have no right to think I own part of the homeless shelter.
Local congs (at least in the UK) have in their charitable objectives the furtherance of the worldwide work, so its perfectly reasonable for a local branch or a national branch to pass the money up the line if it can be better deployed elsewhere where there is a greater need
do people who donate to oxfam in Edinburgh think their donations should only be used in Edinburgh?
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October 31, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: New Visitor Exhibit at Bethel (UK)
by wifibandit inoctober 31, 2017 to all congregations re: new visitor exhibit at bethel.
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It’s a £94m white elephant!
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February 2018 Watchtower
by Listener innote the picture on the top right hand side.
the little boy in green is standing between the man's legs (jesus), face forward.
the picture is not appropriate at all and suggestive.
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kramer
Oh dear, I think he is supposed to illustrate the son of god , who probably wouldn’t be messing with kids