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  Watchtower caught lying about the real reason Beth Sarim was built

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  another incredible catch from a you tuber, this time jane doh, who caught watchtower fooling us again, this time over the reasons beth sarim was really built.. of course we knew rutherford lived in beth sarim during the winter (ostensibly because of his poorly chest🙄).

  however even we didn't guess he blatantly got the poor jws, or bible students as they were, to cough up from the proceeds of their book sales enough to buy him a "cali-fornication" mansion (for he & the girlfriend😜) with absolutely no pretence (at the time) it was for the "ancient worthies".that came later.... how did she know?

  because at the time it was built, in the 1920s, watchtower had no belief that anyone was to live on a "paradise earth" - they had not even formulated the concept of a paradise earth yet for the ancient worthies to live on and believed all jws were to live in heaven.

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  kramer

  Oh dear , someone doesn’t know their wtbts history.
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  How Do You Feel About Completely Open Borders?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whether you are in the usa or another country, are you for it or against it?.

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  kramer

  The worlds richest country is hardly bursting at the seams is it? Ever been to Wyoming , or Wisconsin? "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore“ :)
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  How Do You Feel About Completely Open Borders?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whether you are in the usa or another country, are you for it or against it?.

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  kramer

  I always enjoy watching people of a nation created by immigrants looking for a better life, slagging off and pulling up the drawbridge for the current immigrants looking for a better life.
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  Will JWs get DFed if they are caught with old JW publications?

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was told that if a jw now gets caught reading or with old jw literature they can get dfed.

  i doubt this is true but wanted to know for sure.

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  kramer

  No, not at all. There are publications dating back to early 70s on the Jw app, - although no ‘Commentary on James’. Selective quoting from that could be fun.
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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  kramer

  With enough sensible stuff to criticise JWs on, why do some XJWs come up with BS stories like this?
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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  kramer

  But, this isn’t really true is it?
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  Cowardly Change of Policy in the UK

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the britain branch has called a confidential meeting tonight with a controversial announcement.

  the message is of such import that it was transmitted by word of mouth only, nothing in writing, ears only.

  a decision made by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses and transmitted orally down the chain of command, a decision proving the leadership of this spirit lead body.. the gdpr laws in the uk have been interpreted by wt lawyers so that all record keeping relating to the public has been banned, telephone witnessing and letter writing also, forbidden.. now in a show of supreme bravado the publishers are to be informed that if they wish to, if they dare, they may write to people at their own risk.. bear in mind, nothing is in writing.

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  kramer

  I have heard from two people that still attend that they are having an additional 30 minute session in individual ministry groups before their weekend meeting.
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  Cowardly Change of Policy in the UK

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the britain branch has called a confidential meeting tonight with a controversial announcement.

  the message is of such import that it was transmitted by word of mouth only, nothing in writing, ears only.

  a decision made by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses and transmitted orally down the chain of command, a decision proving the leadership of this spirit lead body.. the gdpr laws in the uk have been interpreted by wt lawyers so that all record keeping relating to the public has been banned, telephone witnessing and letter writing also, forbidden.. now in a show of supreme bravado the publishers are to be informed that if they wish to, if they dare, they may write to people at their own risk.. bear in mind, nothing is in writing.

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  kramer

  It’s being communicated to congregations at meetings through zoom, starting from Tomorrow (Saturday)
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  Why go online

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so why do you think org went online?

  they were selling khs left and right for years.

  plus video talks and new building for filming videos.

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  oh dear...

  Pistolpete - there is software that is used to monitor truck drivers to tell when they are sleepy at the wheel. Presumabley the owner of the truck company did not design the software, just gets the infomation it collects. Therefore, I think WT might get access to software it can use to monitor people's faces and discern how they are listening/engaging.
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  The Guardian: Former Jehovah's Witness elders call for mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/10/former-jehovahs-witness-elders-call-for-mandatory-reporting-of-child-sexual-abuse?fbclid=iwar13k3rzferkzvjj5lbxegzhjr1dkfw34gqchgms4gdmhjufcv24hpzjcco.

  two former jehovah’s witness elders have called for mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse, saying the organisation believes it is “answerable only to god”.. duncan corbett, who was an elder for 18 years, told the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse that the protection of minors and the handling of abuse claims must be taken out of the church’s hands.

  “let them deal with the sin and the authorities handle the crime,” he told a hearing in london.. lloyd evans, another former elder who now campaigns against religious fundamentalism, said: “this is a group that feels they are answerable only to god … they don’t feel as though they need to yield to any regulations that are imposed on them.”.

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  kramer

  @phizzy, it’s not going to happen Mandatory Reporting has been considered many times in the UK and consistently rejected, for many good reasons. Don’t get too excited!