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  question

  by Realist in

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  i have a short question.. while you were in the truth would have been impressed by the quotes on the quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com page about 1914 and all the other wrong prophecies or would you have simply ignored or denied the accuracy of the quotes?.

  would that have caused doubts or would you have found a way to rationalize the obvious lies?.

  thanks a lot!.

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  LoyalLeon

  Believe it or not: it is possible to read CoC and become a baptized witness thereafter.

  If you are raised in a witness family with roots back in the 30s there is nothing unheard of. Even 1975 was awaited with some kind of skepticism. So if you have such a back history you want to make sure of what you do before you get baptized, as the WTS encourages one to do. Thus one comes across unbiased information at the public library which contains information based in part on apostate literature. Knowing both sides one is able to make an informed decision, which can still be to become a JW, although you know of the inconsistencies and imperfections.

  But to this day I have not found a sound alternative.

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  What org rules were stupid to you?

  by MARTINLEYSHON in

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  when i was in the truth i thought that the most ludicrous and petty ruling they ever introduced and still practiced is that congregation book study conductors were and are responsible for collecting every group members report.

  surely every member ought to be responsible for his/her own actions.

  at the beginning of the following month and certainly before the 5th i would always receive the stupid telephone call from the secretary are you aware that 3 publishers havent reported?

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  LoyalLeon

  Sorry Martin,

  I guess ozzie has it right, but many congregations handled matters as yours did, to facilitate things.

  So the new light at this years' KMS was nothing really new.

  LL
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  Why Are JWs Allowed To Ignore Immigration Laws?

  by ErieGuy in

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  we all know how the wts loves to toot their own horn about how jws are the most law abidding citizens in the world.

  so then, why does the wts tolerate (encourage by its own inaction) the continuous ignorance of immigration laws?.

  i have personally observed a whole host of illegal former canadians, mexicans, and central/south americans in congregations scatttered throughout the u.s. is the withholding of "privileges" sufficient conduct by those god told to obey all laws not conflicting wih his own?

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  LoyalLeon

  The change in policy came also to Europe 10 yrs ago.

  But by communication via COs the former rules are now applied again.

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  Isaiah's Prophecy

  by BIBLE BASHER in

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  dose any else find this study book boreing?.

  the last 12 months at the book study has been very hard work for me.

  i have found the isaiah book boreing and very hard to follow.

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  LoyalLeon

  Oh, volume II really gears matters up!

  607 - 1919 - 607 - 1919 - 607 - 1919

  with these numbers it's so easy to give always the correct answers

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  Theocratic Ministry School 2003

  by LoyalLeon in

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  some excerpts from the october 2002 our kingdom ministry insert regarding the new schedule for the tms:.

  introductory remarks.

  5min study point several paragraphs of one of the 53 studies in the new benefit from tms education (to be handled by the school overseer, his helper or perhaps another qualified elder).

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  LoyalLeon

  Some excerpts from the October 2002 Our Kingdom Ministry insert regarding the new schedule for the TMS:

  Introductory remarks

  5min Study Point Several paragraphs of one of the 53 studies in the new Benefit from TMS Education (to be handled by the School overseer, his helper or perhaps another qualified elder)

  10min No. 1 - Instruction Talk As usual from w, si or one of the introductory chapters of the new be (qualified e or ms)

  10min Bible Highlights 6min as usual, then 2 audience questions: 1) how has the material benefited you personally 2) how can you use material to help others (qualified e or ms)

  4min No. 2 Reading assignment - no commentary; once a month from the Watchtower, otherwise from the bible (brother)

  5min No. 3 A discussion from the Reasoning book or a discussion of a certain theme (no references given), the latter is to be assigned to advanced students only (two sisters)

  5min No. 4 as No. 3, but can be assigned to a brother, who delivers a talk

  Counsel by the TMSO has been limited to one minute per talk and has to be positive

  the Written Review will be replaced by a Oral Review of 30 min (after Study point and Bible Highlights) every two months (as we were used, as with some other aspects of this "new" schedule)

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  Blood card is back

  by dmouse in

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  announcements in sept 2002 km:.

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  LoyalLeon

  LT, the secrets in the km-E Us 10/02 are the following:

  Convention Release No. 1- 23 languages
  Convention Release No. 2- 17 languages

  Imagine anybody were to read this before attending their convention!

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  Copyright changes

  by LoyalLeon in

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  it seems to be a minor change, but interesting is the date it went into effect:.

  although it is known for long that the kingdom ministry is not prepared by the writing dept.

  but by the service dept.

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  LoyalLeon

  It seems to be a minor change, but interesting is the date it went into effect:

  Although it is known for long that the Kingdom Ministry is not prepared by the Writing Dept. but by the Service Dept. this has only recently been officially acknowledged by a change of copyrights. The copyright for the km is no longer hold by the WTBTS of Pennsylvania but by the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  Guess which issue of Our Kingdom Ministry is the first to bear the new copyright? Exactly, the nice August 2002 issue. This fine insert is the first issued under the new copyright.

  LL
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  Next year's intl conventions - for PR?

  by Aaac in

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  next year, jw's have international conventions at least in switzerland, spain, s africa, japan and australia.

  they usually have their big conventions in countries where they desperately need some positive pr, so what is going on in these countries?.

  link:.

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  LoyalLeon

  Years ago ICs were held worldwide with NHK and FWF attending mostly all of them. As the GB cannot attend conventions in all countries in one summer, they split it up nowadays.

  In Europe they had ICs in 98 in Germany and the BI (as they call the UK), in 02 in France and Italy now it's the turn for Denmark, Spain and Switzerland. Next time perhaps Portugal and the Netherlands and than they start from the beginning.

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  7/30/02 CO Visit - Summarization of his Talk

  by Mister Biggs in

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  any words that are in italics or caps are used to stress that particular word the way the co stressed it.

  i have this talk on audio tape.

  the quotes are exact!

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  LoyalLeon

  Seems to me your CO must be in his mid 80s.

  Since the Service Dept. provides them with outlines for all their talks they usually stick to that without going into too many details about the local cong.

  And comparisons are usually not made - except your CO is doing his job for 40 or more yrs and is simply sticking to his good old routine of publisher bashing.

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  Facial Hair Poll

  by LittleToe in

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  the background to this thread is that i love wearing (?

  ) a beard, but my wife hates it.

  i've changed my profile pic to reflect four states of facial hairiness (if it doesn't show, hit "refresh" on your browser).. i'm interested in your opinions.

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  LoyalLeon

  btw, did you start growing your facial hair before your stepping down or only afterwards?

  LL