http://www.hulu.com/watch/457671#i1,p0,d1
It's a slightly less violent version of Passion of the Christ. Djesus Unchained.
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I could see myself following this Jesus
by EntirelyPossible inhttp://www.hulu.com/watch/457671#i1,p0,d1.
it's a slightly less violent version of passion of the christ.
djesus unchained.. .
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If there is a God why didn't he sign our DNA
by scotoma intodays scientists can and do insert their trademark into dna.. why couldn't jehovah anticipate scientists learning this technique and stumbling across a strand that says "human by yhwh"?.
that would have answered a lot of questions.. he could have even included a model number human2.0.
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No, he didn't arise from nothing, he is from time indefinate to time indefinate, he has no beginning and no end, he is the cause of everything and nothing caused him, he just is.
Time is part of the physical universe. Time and space are intrisically bound. Are you suggesting God is bound by the limitations of existing in physical spacetime? What exactly is "time indefinate"? Is there more than one since he goes from one to the other? If he didn't arise from nothing, then he arose from something?
"We live in a special time, the only time, where we can observationally verify that we live in a special time.”
Laurence Krauss is awesome.
Unfortunately, many miss... and most refuse to accept... the truth of what this means: that He didn't "make" all of us. Some have another's "signature" on them.
Please. Enough to suggesting people that don't accept hallucinations and myth are sons of the devil. It's kind of amusing, but also sad to see that so many people would rather believe in myths and invisible people than learn about the real beauty of reality all around them.
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I've Come To Realize That "Facts" Don't Mean Much If A Person Refuses To Accept Them
by minimus in...and that applies to religion as well as politics.. if someone simply believes such and such is true, it doesn't really matter whether you "prove" it or not.
people will believe what they want to believe..
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So, let me get this straight, you're so put out by my original assertion that now I have to apologize in order to hear your side of the argument? Sorry, man, it doesn't work that way. Just prove me wrong already and stop stalling. How long does it take one to get off a high horse, anyway?
Put off? Heavens no. I simply reject your ignorance from assertion and suggest that if you want something you ask nicely. If you can't or won't, you must not really want to know. It's pretty simple.
There's no irony there (if you think so, then I promise you that you missed my point).
Oh, I get your point. It's just moot and full of irony.
If you consider truth insulting, I'm sorry, but I can't make you that promise. I CAN promise you that I won't address you... or anything you state... if you live up to your "promise." So far, that doesn't seem to be possible for you.
Sorry, still ignoring you.
It amazes me how people will twist words and positions just to attempt to create a false equivalency between invisible sky-daddy and science.
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I've Come To Realize That "Facts" Don't Mean Much If A Person Refuses To Accept Them
by minimus in...and that applies to religion as well as politics.. if someone simply believes such and such is true, it doesn't really matter whether you "prove" it or not.
people will believe what they want to believe..
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Well, I'm sorry if that was a false accusation... perhaps you can tell me what theories you have personally verified?
Perhaps I could. In any event, the point is that were using pejoratives and speaking from ignorance. If you want to know something rather than make claims about things you can't possibly know, you can try asking nicely.
You missed my point, so let me state it more clearly. I wasn't using science to prove anything. My point was that what I felt (which I haven't described yet, but it was eerie), and how I felt it, was to my knowledge a unique experience.
I didn't miss your point in the least. I was pointing out the irony of you trying to prop up personal experience in a backhanded insult against science-minded people on the forum by pointing that, if it weren't for the very science you were backhanded, you wouldn't understand the personal experience which, btw, isn't unique. Linemen everywhere experience the buzz of electromagnetism. That phenonmena has been well understood for well over 100 years.
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I've Come To Realize That "Facts" Don't Mean Much If A Person Refuses To Accept Them
by minimus in...and that applies to religion as well as politics.. if someone simply believes such and such is true, it doesn't really matter whether you "prove" it or not.
people will believe what they want to believe..
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All scientific facts are there? The canon is closed? Only modifications are needed? Your giving me a laugh, here.
Selective quoting? Seriously. He went on to talk about the "facts" in science vs. theories. Keep reading.
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I've Come To Realize That "Facts" Don't Mean Much If A Person Refuses To Accept Them
by minimus in...and that applies to religion as well as politics.. if someone simply believes such and such is true, it doesn't really matter whether you "prove" it or not.
people will believe what they want to believe..
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for many... most... and possibly most here... something is not a fact... until it is verified. But that's not really the definition trying to be sold. What is trying to be SOLD... is that something is not TRUE... until it is verified. And THAT... is a lie.
No one is trying to sell anything. Stop with the insults. If you want your postion to be taken seriously, come up with something useful. Simply making up stuff about the soul living in baby teeth and then insulting those dubious of those claims doesn't help anything or anyone.
You can now. Some stated as fact that the earth was round long, long before such tools and means of verification were available. Were they wrong? Many of their day thought so. Wrong... to the point of having to join secret societies in order to say so... and not be put to death by those who didn't believe them.
It could be proven thousands of year ago the earth was round using simple math and observational evidence. Math and science were uncovering useful knowledge, religion and dogma were trying to kill people. Thanks for pointing that out! Yay Science!
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I've Come To Realize That "Facts" Don't Mean Much If A Person Refuses To Accept Them
by minimus in...and that applies to religion as well as politics.. if someone simply believes such and such is true, it doesn't really matter whether you "prove" it or not.
people will believe what they want to believe..
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These selfsame, proudly atheist forum members promote science as the answer to everything, and yet it's unlikely that they verified many scientific claims on their own.
First of all, you can lay off the pejoratives anytime. Second, you are making random claims out of ignorance with zero evidence or knowledge to back it up. Third, the example you used to show that personal experience can trump science.....yeah, knowing about electricity and how it can conduct through air is something you know thanks to science. IOW, you used science to attempt to prove that a personal experience you would only be able to understand THANKS to science can somehow trump science. You might want to try that one again.
Seriously, your insults and claims of what "proudly" atheists is sad. Just stop.
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I've Come To Realize That "Facts" Don't Mean Much If A Person Refuses To Accept Them
by minimus in...and that applies to religion as well as politics.. if someone simply believes such and such is true, it doesn't really matter whether you "prove" it or not.
people will believe what they want to believe..
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I'm not responding after this because I want to get the thread back on track, but predictably you leap to Aguests defense despite her constant insults. How sad, both her insults and your continual, constant defense of her mud-slinging.
OK, done, let's get the thread back on track.
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I've Come To Realize That "Facts" Don't Mean Much If A Person Refuses To Accept Them
by minimus in...and that applies to religion as well as politics.. if someone simply believes such and such is true, it doesn't really matter whether you "prove" it or not.
people will believe what they want to believe..
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Yeah, let's get this back on topic. Here's a question, outside of the JW/religion/etc., what is the biggest belief anyone has had to change?
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I've Come To Realize That "Facts" Don't Mean Much If A Person Refuses To Accept Them
by minimus in...and that applies to religion as well as politics.. if someone simply believes such and such is true, it doesn't really matter whether you "prove" it or not.
people will believe what they want to believe..
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Hmmm... the first sentence was an insult. I ignored the rest. Come back when you can act like an adult. Despite you attempts to get my attention, I will not be drawn into whatever pointless argument you are trying to start by attempting to insult me. I will not respond as long as you continue to act this way on this thread. You aren't worth my time.
Note that I say "attempting" because you are literally incapable of insulting me.