What's wrong with straightforward debate?
Their logic is built on a house of cards so flimsy a light breeze could knock it over. That's what :)
yes, i already know the atheist's anger towards god, and the attempts to erroneously state that he advocated genocide, which .
i am ready to hear all the anger directed towards the god that these men and women state that they don't believe in.
they might as well be angry with the fsm.
What's wrong with straightforward debate?
Their logic is built on a house of cards so flimsy a light breeze could knock it over. That's what :)
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
That's good, because no one sought any laughter from you; rather, the laughter is directed at you. Let me know if you need any further clarification.
Nope. It's pretty clear. I hurt your feelings, probably without realizing it, at some point in the past. Now the abuse you are used to coupled with the accidental hurt feelings makes you want me and because you can't have me, you lash out. I would never laugh at your sad situation.
I know, you'll deny it, try to come back with something spiteful. It's OK, babycakes. I forgive you. You can't help yourself and you aren't hurting me so there is no reason to not forgive you. Just as Jesus said, I freely forgive.
Can you do the same? Can you learn to let go and live your own life, to develop yourself, to grow past your obsession? I hope so.
God bless you and God bless the United States of America.
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
EP, you are transparent
Did someone put some habanero hot sauce in EP's grape snugglers?
Sorry, I ran out of time to suffer fools today and laugh at your ignorant insults.
here's the thing,.
the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.
period.
Actually, I didn't "repeat" you. Are you ever inclined to exhibit even a modicum of honesty?
As is obvious from your posting history on this site, your ego needs all the flattery it can get.
My god man, how much more obvious can you make it how badly you are in love with me? The first step in recovery is admitting it to yourself...
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
EP --- now, I dunno, just going on what I've heard/read but you're indicating a follower of Jesus (preacher/minister) is to be self-supporting yet what about the disciples/Jesus staying with friends being fed and housed. Is this not support?
That's not at all what I said. I am asking about getting paid a salary for something that, according to their own holy book, should be done freely.
Comparing church to a non-profit is a false analogy. Saying the church has rent or that the preacher spends time doing other things isn't answering the question. Saying times are different is simply skirting the question and trying to not answer it.
Why is preaching a salaried position when, according the very holy book they cherish says to NOT do that thing?
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
You find it nasty when people stand up against your trolling? I don't think so. You're just unhappy because you thought your brilliant, original, never thought of before, never discussed before question, had a sensible, historical and even scriptural answer.
Oh look, the "you're just unhappy" BS when you can't actually answer any of the questions. Please, the bible says the exact opposite of what you claim. Quite interestingly, it often does that for apologists, and they are quite often the meanest people around, the first to couch name calling under the name love, the last to admit that what they say doesn't match reality, the first to declare others lacking.
Seriously, if you're going to try to say I'm unorgininal (I'm just asking questions), then perhaps you should try some orgiginality in your insults.
Why do preachers get paid for preaching when Jesus and the apostles said to do the exact opposite?
I understand that you've been hurt. Most of us have been hurt by the WTBTS. I understand that it's your pain speaking.
You are ignorant. Sadly so. Sadly because you're convinced you know things you possibly couldn't and are wrong on every count, but you use you ignorance as a platform to insult others. It's like you're channeling Aguest or something.
Why do preachers get paid for preaching when Jesus and the apostles said to do the exact opposite?
here's the thing,.
the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.
period.
That description fits you as well, EP. Perfectly.
See, it's not funny if best you got is to just repeat me. I appreciate the flattery, however.
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
Jesus and his apostles didn't comment on jobs, they commented on sharing the word. You know that. You're just behaving like a troll.
OK. It's clear you are just going to refuse to address the question and answer something different and pretend they are the same while calling names. There is no point in talking to you. Posting page after page of apologist drivel that want their damn paycheck trying to justify doing EXACTLY the opposite of what Jesus said to do is not answering the question. Pointless to have a discussion with you if you are incapable of having a discussion.
Youre like the little kid who was going to go to bed, but hung out just around the corner, cuz he wanted to see what the adults were doing.
Ah, now you're getting it! A few more tries you might actually get there.
This is a thread on religion which EP thinks is BS anyway. In fact, God, Jesus, the Bible is all BS to him. He just delights in trolling. If you show him the verses, it wouldn't matter to him. Why entertain him? Leave the insecure guy alone.
Man, being religious and going to church sure does turn people nasty. Either that or they simply use a message of love to justify their nastiness. You and FHN are great examples of that.
Here in Pittsburgh we turn all of our churches into bars and breweries.
That's the best thing that could possibly be done with them.
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
It was lame before i got it.
Ah, you definitely should have taken all four hours. You just insulted yourself, basically saying you took something you thought was lame, had nothing better and re-used it since, well, you had nothing better.
Seriously, off to bed.
FHN, I am asking a WHY question about the disparity between what they were told to do and why they think doing the opposite is OK. You keep telling me WHAT they do, which is NOT an answer. I'll keep asking, though. I have hope that you will get it.
Satanus, take your time. Use the internet. Phone a friend. You'll come up with something (maybe).
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
We answered your question, EP. No high horse, just very tired of your modus operandi on threads like this. Not tired of you, just the modus operandi.
Blah blah blah about what your friend does on a daily basis is not an answer. I didn't ask about ancient Israel or for information on what they do that isn't preaching. If your friend is getting paid to do stuff that isn't preaching, then he should just get a job doing that stuff, call it "getting paid for being really nice" and preach for free, like Jesus said. In either case, though, you are telling me all the stuff he does that has nothing to do with my question.
Why does he think he should get paid to do what Jesus and the apostles said to give freely?
And really, your tired insults, while amusing, really could use some touching up. As I said, if you can't actually answer the question, you can simply bow out. No shame in that. But seriously, telling me what your friend does on a daily basis is no answer.