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  Do you think "Blondie" is addicted to reading Watchtowers and Awakes?

  by booker-t in

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  i remember when i was a "devout" jws i could not wait to get the new watchtowers and awakes from the wednesday nite theocratic ministry school.

  i would actually salivate thinking of the new information jehovah had in the magazines for us.

  i was "franatical" and i would go home still in my three piece suit and devour the magazines that very nite.

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  If you want to pick on someone, pick on me, not Blondie. No one likes me anyway and I can take it, d-bag. Her breakdowns are awesome and helpful.
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  Why does god kill children?

  by Comatose in

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  i was thinking about all the accounts in the bible that indicate god kills children as a punishment or teaching experience.

  1. kills all of egypts firstborn sons, who were innocent kids who did nothing to him or his people, who had no control over the decisions pharoah made.

  how many times have you read that account or thought about it without realizing the devastating pain dealt to all those parents, and remembered those were innocent kids?.

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  And i did not editorialize... I just wrote what IS written in there.

  Pants on fire?

  To quote YOU:

  but also that he knew, in faith, that he would be walking back with his son Isaac.

  It is right there in the writing. Hiding in plain sight

  there is nothing to corroborate that.

  Abraham knew everything would be fine, it's all right there, except it's actually not and you aren't editorializing or making anything up? Sheesh, time to get the hip waders on, the BS is getting deep in here.

  To continue quoting you...:

  But he also clearly states HIMSELF that people are judged by their own words

  as has been the case through this thread... you have misunderstood and so are misrepresnting

  You just misrepresented the allegory as having something there and then admitted it wasn't there and claimed the fault is on other people for not seeing what's not there.

  If there is a god of truth, he really cannot be happy with you right now. Is there nothing you won't say, contradict or make up to defend the voice in your head as being Jesus?

  It is man who has made things so complicated, becasue man does not know

  Tec, have you met Tec?
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  Why does god kill children?

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was thinking about all the accounts in the bible that indicate god kills children as a punishment or teaching experience.

  1. kills all of egypts firstborn sons, who were innocent kids who did nothing to him or his people, who had no control over the decisions pharoah made.

  how many times have you read that account or thought about it without realizing the devastating pain dealt to all those parents, and remembered those were innocent kids?.

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  But just because errors have been brought into the OT, does not mean that the entire thing is in error, or even that we cannot know what those errors are, or what the truth actually is.

  
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  Why does god kill children?

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was thinking about all the accounts in the bible that indicate god kills children as a punishment or teaching experience.

  1. kills all of egypts firstborn sons, who were innocent kids who did nothing to him or his people, who had no control over the decisions pharoah made.

  how many times have you read that account or thought about it without realizing the devastating pain dealt to all those parents, and remembered those were innocent kids?.

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  The cake is a lie.

  There's no sense crying over every mistake, we'll just keep on trying 'til we run out of cake. The science gets done and you make a neat gun for people who are still alive.
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  The Bible and history

  by punkofnice in

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  there has been much said about why history proves the bible to be correct.. personally, i feel that this is far from true.. just because an historic city or place is mentioned in the bible doesn't mean the bible must therefore be true.

  i think this is an ontological argument if i recall.. i look at it this way.. many fiction writers use places that exist and people that exist as the backdrop for their work of fiction.. eg.

  hitler existed.

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  Dr Who is fictional and he has met both (and a host of other historic personages), and was there in WW".....this does not mean that because these other things existed that Dr Who is a real person.....more's the pity!

  It's Doctor, not Dr ;)

  /Nerd over and out, sir.
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  Why does god kill children?

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was thinking about all the accounts in the bible that indicate god kills children as a punishment or teaching experience.

  1. kills all of egypts firstborn sons, who were innocent kids who did nothing to him or his people, who had no control over the decisions pharoah made.

  how many times have you read that account or thought about it without realizing the devastating pain dealt to all those parents, and remembered those were innocent kids?.

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  You are not correct on this, EP. The Slaughter of the animal was one action-- the slashing and the blood.

  Indeed I am.

  Perhaps the best-known class of offerings is the burnt offering. It was the oldest and commonest sacrifice, and represented submission to G-d's will. The Hebrew word for burnt offering is olah, from the root Ayin-Lamed-Hei, meaning ascension.

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  These were wholly animal, and thevictims were wholly consumed . They might be from the herd or the flock, or in cases of poverty birds might be substituted. The offerings acceptable were: (a) young bullocks; (b) rams or goats of the first year; (c) turtle-doves or young pigeons. These animals were to be free from all disease or blemish. They were to be brought to the door of the tabernacle, and the offerer was to kill them on the north side of the altar (if a burnt offering), except in the public sacrifices, when the priest put the victims to death, being assisted on occasion by the Levites (II Chron. xxix. 34). The blood was then sprinkled around the altar. The victim, if a large animal, was flayed and divided; the pieces being placed above the wood on the altar, the skin only being left to the priest.

  Olah, which God commanded Abraham to do with Issac, meant something was going to die for God.

  But if you, like them, would rather have the story go that the Monster Son-of-a-Bitch told Abe to do Isaac kosher, go ahead.

  The story is what it is.

  I don't trust the bible either, EP. So we are left to argue our prejudices, perhaps. Because you argue using it, too.

  I find it interesting that the same people that say they don't trust it go to great lengths to explain why it doesn't say what it plainly says.
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  Why does god kill children?

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was thinking about all the accounts in the bible that indicate god kills children as a punishment or teaching experience.

  1. kills all of egypts firstborn sons, who were innocent kids who did nothing to him or his people, who had no control over the decisions pharoah made.

  how many times have you read that account or thought about it without realizing the devastating pain dealt to all those parents, and remembered those were innocent kids?.

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  Olah involved killing an animal, often cutting it up, and offering the whole animal to God and that is excactly what God praised Abraham for being prepared to do and in fact, the animal that took Issac's place was killed.

  God told Abraham to kill his son and Abraham was prepared to do it, therefore God praised him. There is zero wiggle room on this.
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  Why didnt Jehovah give any science or technology to the jews...

  by mP in

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  ive asked a few jws and other believers why god never gave technology to his people but no one has been able to answer this.

  why are his people copying the pagans.

  their writing system without vowels means they couldnt even write his holy name down accurately.

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  Perhaps the first is not quite true.. but I would argue against th second.

  Both are true. Because it is not known how something was done does not mean it cannot be done.

  Most people don't know how to start a fire without matches or a ligher, yet it can be done (for instance, I can).

  Plus, it's pretty well known how the pyramids were built.

  Among archaeologists, historians, and Egyptologists, however, there's no real mystery. The methods by which the pyramids were constructed are pretty well understood and documented, and have appeared in many places including Mark Lehner's book, The Complete Pyramids: Solving the Ancient Mysteries (Thames & Hudson, 1997).

  Rocks were quarried from as far as 600 miles (960 kilometers) away in Aswan and transported to Giza, probably on rafts down the Nile during the rainy season. A level surface was prepared (again, using Nile floodwater for accuracy), and a causeway was built from the Nile toward Giza. The stones were pulled on sleds or over rolling logs near the pyramid, where stonemasons prepared the slabs. Once the four sides of the foundation of the pyramids were set, each successive layer was addedsmaller in area but higher off the ground.

  There are several ways that the heavy blocks could have been added to the top. Side ramps made of either earth or wood could have been built along the sides of the pyramids, or the workers might have simply built an earthen ramp against one side and dragged the blocks up on logs. It was an incredible amount of work, and required tens of thousands of workers over decades.
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  Why didnt Jehovah give any science or technology to the jews...

  by mP in

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  ive asked a few jws and other believers why god never gave technology to his people but no one has been able to answer this.

  why are his people copying the pagans.

  their writing system without vowels means they couldnt even write his holy name down accurately.

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  All a sign of work. to little me, a SURE sign of a worker, a shy and elusive worker. which is entirey possible.

  None of that has anything to do with what I posted. You can beleive whatever you like. Plus, your whole sentence about "in time, with time" doesn't make sense. If you wish to discuss a shy and elusive creator, resurrect your thread on it, do not de-rail this one with your half baked theories on time.
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  Why does god kill children?

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was thinking about all the accounts in the bible that indicate god kills children as a punishment or teaching experience.

  1. kills all of egypts firstborn sons, who were innocent kids who did nothing to him or his people, who had no control over the decisions pharoah made.

  how many times have you read that account or thought about it without realizing the devastating pain dealt to all those parents, and remembered those were innocent kids?.

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  But in the interest of accuracy ir must be said that God never commanded Abraham to kill and burn his son.

  Abraham, who spoke the native language, certainly interpreted it that way, as did God after he stopped Abraham.