EntirelyPossible
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I think time travel is possible...
by AGuest in(fluff thread).... no, seriously, though (may you all have peace!)...
there are times when, within seconds after submitting a post, someone posts a response to it.
now, that isn't unusual in and of itself; however, my posts can be quite long sometimes.
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What is "truth" - COULD Einstein Have Been Wrong?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
just came across this article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44629271/ns/technology_and_science-science/?gt1=43001.
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Demon Haunted World was an AWESOME book.
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What is "truth" - COULD Einstein Have Been Wrong?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
just came across this article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44629271/ns/technology_and_science-science/?gt1=43001.
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EntirelyPossible
Science is a delicate balancing act between skepticism and open mindedness.
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What is "truth" - COULD Einstein Have Been Wrong?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
just came across this article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44629271/ns/technology_and_science-science/?gt1=43001.
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EntirelyPossible
The point of the image I posted was this:
If anyone says science has all the answers and treats things as "fact" inviolate, they are doing it wrong.
If anyone hears someone in science saying science can or does this, know things as absolute fact and all there is to know about it, call them on it.
If anyone says science changes it's mind just like new light, they have no idea what they are talking about.
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Are you sick of conspiracy nuts?.....9/11
by Witness 007 inyes apparently the staff at the twin towers on 9/11 didn't notice the explosives strapped to all the beams on each floor......of course a plane fully loaded with jet fuel going so fast it nearly flew through the building {blew out the otherside} would not be enough to cause a collapse.
the building were glowing red!
people jumped due to the heat and smoke.
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Look, the towers were brought down by controlled nano-thermite nuclear radiation (which were so advanced they left no residual radiation) weapons that were capable of emitting an EMP that fried cars but only knocked out radios for a few minutes for two reasons. Larry Silverstein (Illuminati Zionist, probably the current Lord High Protector and Keeper of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion) got 3.5 Billion, not for his to keep, but to further the CIA agenda as laid out by the Rothschilds and Council on Foreign Relations members. He is the secret Zionist bastard cousin to Kubrik who faked the moon landings. As such, the CIA was keeping the info on the FAKED moon landings in WTC7, along with proof of the presidential cooperation over the years with Lizard People and the Greys from Area 51, all with his knowledge and agreement. To keep him in on the secret, they agreed to keep secret the videos of him and George Soros having a Zionist Illuminati 4-way with Elton John and Ricky Martin AND let him keep about $500 Million.
Bush decided that information must be destroyed at all costs and saw an opportunity to 1)destroy it (the government is on a budget, paper shredders and hydroflouric acid were too expensive) so it would never be found again and 2)broaden his power base and 3)creatue a scenario of perpetual war to gain control of the oil reserves in Iraq so he could declare a state of emergency and remain president for life. Unfortunately for him, this plan was ruined by the Caballah/Muslim plot to raise Barack Obama from an infant to be the secret Muslim president of the US. They didn't count on the fact that a white woman would turn traitor on her own country in the 60's and go along with this plot.
Look, it all fits. I don't want to hear any of this "math" and "science" that show perfectly plausible scenarios where the building would have collapsed. That's not using critical thinking and is distracting from the real issues. Anything less shows what sheeple you are! It's all there if you just take off the blinders.
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What is "truth" - COULD Einstein Have Been Wrong?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
just came across this article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44629271/ns/technology_and_science-science/?gt1=43001.
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The Value of a Godless World
by cantleave inthought provoking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42rhvmnuaa&feature=uploademail.
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EntirelyPossible
I'm pretty sure I actually agreed with you here....
You agreed and then questioned the agreement.
But....is the problem being fixed by an evolving moral code? or is it simply a case of the problem not keeping the same pace as population growth?
Evolving moral code.Not only is it not keeping pace, it has fallen dramatically, directly due to human rights changes and an evolving moral code.
If an evolving moral code was the reason...then surely the number of slaves today WOULDN'T be higher than at any other point in history.
Sorry, we don't allow logical fallacies. You just committed the logical fallacy of begging the question. Your question assumed the premise you wanted to prove was true and offered no supporting evidence. If you have any to offer, please do so.
Hmmmm....in some form of slavery?....I thought we were only talking trafficking now?
I made the option wider since you intially separated the child labor and human trafficking and later wanted to combine them. If you still wish to combine them, all you need to do is run the numbers and we can.
If it were trending better...that should be reflected in all scenarios, not just percentages of population.
Begging the question. Why would that be so? It is not enough to simply assert that it.
As we know, population growth has a huge impact on the percentages. If everyone woman of child bearing age had a baby next year....that would have a massive effect on the percentage of people in slavery...but it wouldn't in any way show that slavery was being addressed or reduced...in fact...it would be no reflecton whatsoever on what is happeing with slavery.
Not entirely correct. Population growth, to a point, has a impact, but once you are dealing with suffciently large numbers, percentages are all you can deal with. Every woman having a baby next year MAY have a huge impact, however, we also kmow that every woman won't have a baby.
That's why the critical numbers are whether or not it is falling, growing or keeping pace as an overall percentage. Also it is important to look at whether societies allow it, the law enforcement going on, etc. On every front, things are trending towards the better. That's why the statistical numbers are important to look at on all front and, consistently, they show one thing, an evolved moral code has improved things.
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The Value of a Godless World
by cantleave inthought provoking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42rhvmnuaa&feature=uploademail.
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EntirelyPossible
It really depends on HOW you want to look at it doesn't it?
Absolutely not. In every measurable way imaginable and probably many we haven't, you are totally, completely and unequivocally incorrect in your assertions.
I prefer to look at it from the human point of view...the actual day to day human cost of slavery.
Then you should try it, rather than try to paint a bleak picture. A smaller percent of people are in some form of slavery than at any time before, slavery is illegal in every country in the world now, efforts are being made to stamp it out. Not perfect, but better and trending towards better.
yes....statistically slavery has decreased per head of population....but has it really decreased?
Yes, it has decreased as a percentage of the population. It's called math. You should try it sometime.
You and I both know that statistics can be manipulated to say just about whatever you want them to say...depending on what figures you want to use.
I know what I know. What you know, I can't say. What you don't know is math and how statistics work. You apparently do know enough to blame them when they show how utterly wrong you are. Don't blame the hammer when you accidentally hit yourself in the thumb with it.
I am willing to concede that the world may not be getting worse....but....YOU cannot prove that world morals are improving.
I don't care what you concede. The evidence speaks for itself. You are utterly wrong whether you concede or not.
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The Value of a Godless World
by cantleave inthought provoking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42rhvmnuaa&feature=uploademail.
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EntirelyPossible
What that VALUE is, however, depends on MAN.
If man is no more than an "evolved mammal" then there is no reason to see Man as anything more than just another "dominate species" in a given period of time onm this Planet.
But the beauty of that is that, due to how we have evolved, we can CHOOSE to behave in better ways. In general, I think we are getting better at it. The ability to make that choice is awesome.
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The Value of a Godless World
by cantleave inthought provoking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42rhvmnuaa&feature=uploademail.
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EntirelyPossible
EP...I did not move any goalposts...You were talking human trafficking...I was talking slavery which includes everything that falls into that category including child slavery...or if you prefer the term...'child labour'...sounds a bit nicer doesn't it?
While we are at it...I would also include Child soldiers in the slavery category...
Ah, so when you chose to split human trafficking and child labor stats from unicef into two different categories in your earlier posts, were you just not aware that you did, was it simple incompetence? You initially split them and suddenly when the numbers demonstrate that your position is flawed, you want to merge them? That's the definition of moving the goalposts, especially since you were the one that posted the unicef numbers as separate topics.
As I said, you can do that, but then you need to do the math to make it relevant.
I don't see how using your statistics achieves anything...
That's not my problem. You can choose to educate yourself so you will understand, but your lack of knowledge it not my problem.
Lets say we had 500 road deaths last year...and this year that number dropped to 450...statistically that is an improvement...but is it really? We still had 450 road deaths this year. Go and tell their relatives that it's an improvement...
Awwww... look at you being all adorable and trying to play the emotion card!
Tell you what, since you want to play that game, go tell the 50 people who would have died that they don't deserve to. Go telll their kids that mommy and daddy should died and they should be orphans. Or, since they DIDN'T die, you could look at 50 more parents, childrend, brothers, sisters and grandparents that are alive as an improvement.
I doubt you will, however, since you are determined to see the world as a horrible place. I wonder what is wrong with you, what happened to turn you into this bitter person that can't see the good in anything.
I can see why you form the arguments that you do. Why you need to play with statistics.
Because the way to know if something is getting better is to measure it. And you have to know HOW to measure it. Concepts beyond you, apparently. You can learn them if you like. I will teach you. Besides that, math is fun. You can do all sorts of interesting things with it.
Thinking that you are so superior to another person that YOU think that that is morals....that self induced superiority gives you the right to claim that YOU are educating someone else....and then if they don't listen to YOU they need to be disciplined.
I don't think I am superior to anyone. If you feel that I think I am, that's your right. If I know something you don't (in this case, how and why to measure things) and I explain it to you, I am not necessarily educating you, I am giving you the opportunity to learn. Whether or not you take advantage of that opportunity is up to you.
And I never said you needed to be disciplined. I think you misunderstood. I said that saying what you were going to do, giving a warning and then keeping your word about the next action was similar to the way you discipline a small child. Regarding you I specifically said I was going to mock you for being willfully ignorant, and I did. I said what I was going to do, warned you and then did it. Truthful, honest and delivered on my word.
If you cannot see that that behaviour is similar to the attitude that feeds slavery then there really is no point in this discussion. Although I had that feeling already after your display of 'discipline' earlier.
Wow, I take back everything I said. You really are just dumber than a bag of hammers. No one is oppressing you or holding you down or forcing you to post stupid things. You have been given the opportunity to learn and wasted it. That is your right as a free person. As a free person, you also get to suffer the consequences, good or bad, of your actions. Too bad you don't like it.
God help the children in this world if this is the type of discipline that is metered out to them.
Of course not. Children need help, guidance, love and encouragment. You, as an adult, are choosing to be willfully ignorant. Totally different situation.
Now by all means...begin to throw your toys of of the cot like you did earlier...I am not listening to you...I see no 'value' in it.
I know you don't. Being bitter and negative all isn't helping you to get over that, either.