i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
Sorry, I already made that joke. You don't get my sloppy seconds. If you are going to try to insult me and get your ass handed to you in the process, at least try to be original in your comeback and not just copy what I did. Lame, dude. Lame.
OK, off to bed. You now have at least 4 hours to think of something witty. I encourage you to take all of it and I wish you luck.
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
Careful, you don't wet yourself, ep. Laughing too hard can cause leakage.
Why, do you like to be leaked on or are you simply speaking from experience? If the former, I suggest craigslist. If the latter, hospice and a nurse.
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
Entirely Possible, you didn't correctly call out anything. You're just trying to cause trouble and hijack the thread. I've seen you do this numerous times on threads that deal with church or religion. Stop hijacking a thread that was started for the OP to share excitement about finding a church.
Sorry schoolmarm, this is s a thread about a church that didn't ask for money. You clearly didn't read the OP and are trying to exert your non-existent power in a thread that is exactly about the thing you don't want to talk about.
Look, if you can't answer, that's fine, just don't reply back. If you do, don't for a second think I won't call out yet another non-answer like the one you gave above where you tried to pretend you knew something about me or could call BS on anything. You were wrong, then wronger, then just silly.
So, answer the question and, if you can't, well, keep talking or don't. I really don't care, but I also won't stop asking the question.
Oh, and climb down off that high horse you set yourself up on. It's not a horse and the rarified air up there is giving you delusions of grandeur, what with you thinking you can tell people what to do.
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
You slung insults at flyinhigh. You are the one who needs to reread his stuff. Why do people need to answer to you, anyway, about what church they go to? Who are you?
Ha ha! You so funny. Not right in the least, but funny. I'll always remember you for the humor.
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
Ah, well, other than trying to keep pushing the BS WT line and claiming to know why I do things, you almost had an answer. Aside from the BS, you're getting close.
OK, so Jesus and apostle were itenerant. I knew that. Stating that, however, in no way answers the question. Why should someone get paid a salary to preach when Jesus AND the apostles said it should be free? You are studiously avoiding asnswering that very specific question. You talk about a congregation.. OK, doesn't answer the question. You sling about WT accusations, fine, BS though it may be, still doesn't answer the question. You talk about my motives...irrelevant, doesn't answer the question.
I'll restate the question so maybe it makes more sense. What value does a preacher, a person that knows nothing anyone else doesn't know with a little research, that is often no more qualified (and in many cases less qualified) than people in his congregation to talk about the Bible knowledgably, someone that is often dispensing nothing more than his opinion.... what does this guy do to deserve a salary specifically when the tenents of the faith he professes to espouse specifically says to NOT do that? Why does that guy think that he knows better than the son of god and should go directly against him and NOT give freely, but for a paycheck?
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
Insults? Ep is full of them, isn't he?
Not in the least. Perhaps you should read again with the blinders off. I simply asked questions and got insulted for not accepting non-answers. If you don't like that I correctly called out the BS slung my way, that's really only a problem for you and the people slinging the BS when they can't answer questions and try to avoid it.
here's the thing,.
the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.
period.
I was disappointed that some here chose to accuse others of criminal misconduct. If you aren't a cop, district attorney, or other legal system professional with a full knowledge of the specific facts of the situation, you have no basis to make such allegations, and your opinion is about as valuable as an unflushed turd in a public toilet.
It amazing how you perfectly described the very thing you wrote. Bravo!
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
Perry, none of that says anything about a salary. Quit trying to make the Bible say what you want. It cannot now say what it did not say then.
FHN, non-profits are also non-prophet. Your analogy is false because they don't have a model they CLAIM to follow from heaven that directly says that what they do should be given freely. If you are going to try to make claims, you should also try to be aware of the basic tenets of the things you are talking about.
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
EP: this is a thread where the OP is happy with his decision to go to church. He likes his church. What is your purpose for posting on this thread?
You can try to be a schoolmarm to someone else, it ain't selling here. Can you explain why a preacher would get paid today when that is absolutely NOT the model set forth in the Bible?
If you're insulted, I'm sorry.
Why would I be insulted? It's not like the stern grandmother act works on me.
You do bring the WT rherotic and reasoning to a thread where it just doesn't fit. Examine yourself. Be introspective. Let go of the Watchtower standards and rules. They don't apply out here.
You can't answer a question so you do the only thing you can, insult someone.
Try again. Sling that BS some other direction, none of it is getting on me. You can't answer the question so you try to sling shit on other people. Well, sucks for you but it didn't work. The only person you got your crap on is you.
Why should preachers get paid a salary today when that is 100% against the model they claim to follow?
i really enjoyed church today, i have been visting serevel in the last few weeks, all the ones i have been to have been okay, but no more, but today i felt comfortable with everything i seen.
it seemed very doctrinally sound, christ centered and the big bonus i did not hear a word about money!
they did not pass a plate(i dont know if they do but today there was none).
Entirely Possible, you sound just like a tired old Watchtower broken record.
You sound like someone that prefers to sling insults rather than defend the stuff you spout. Seriously, try defending a single thing you said using logic and reason rather than try to smear the person questioning what you say. You may find yourself smarter for the experience.
You reveal a deep ignorance about what pastors and priests actually do in their jobs.
You crack me up with your silly assumptions. Perhaps you you try learning something before you make ASSumptions.
It was the JWs who decided that fulltime clergy should not be paid, nor even part time, for that matter.
I put this last on purpose to show how silly you are. Jesus and Paul both preached against money in religion. You should try actually NOT being ignorant about the stuff you say. You might find it fulfilling.
Doctors may be doctors because they love to heal, but they still deserve to be paid.
Doctors aren't preachers. Fail. You fail so hard if you were an asteroid heading towards earth, you would wipe out the dinosaurs with the impact of your failure in that singular statement.
The thing is, Jesus and his apostles had very different circumstances and different objectives than the modern day church.
There are plenty of organizations that do good works and dispense help without getting paid. The simple fact is that preachers that get paid defy the words of their origins. Claiming that times are different could be something you could build on, but the fact is you have yet to demonstrate why or how they MUST get paid in order to teach about Christ, love and being saved.
Jesus didn't get paid. Why should they?
