Alas . . . it would seem PP has re-boarded the crazy train . . .
Could be a simple case of "the grass is greener . . . " in which case he'll be back before they get the chance to punch his ticket . . . here's hoping.
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I've Decided That It'll Be Best For Me To Return To The Kingdom Hall.
by Philadelphia Ponos inafter carefully evaluating the my current life situation, i've come to the conclusion that returning to the hall will be best for me.
i simply just don't fit in with the rest of the world.
i don't drink, smoke, have sex, go to clubs, listen to worldly music, watch movies, or gamble.
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July 15th WT- Don't Research " False Stories " - Inspired by Satan !
by flipper ini know the poster lost generation made a fantastic thread on this july 15th apostate article, however - i noticed some very powerful points on pg.
17 paragraphs 9 - 11 which weren't brought out that i feel needed to be touched on.
as was brought out in his thread this article told jw's to avoid apostates because they are " mentally diseased " allegedly and to avoid their web sites, not read their literature, watch t.v.
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It seems to fly hard in the face of "bringing things out into the open" . . . "shining a light on truth" . . . "carefully checking what your being taught" . . . "making sure of all things" . . . all of which is quite reasonable.
Rather than exposing WT "truth" to the light of scrutiny (which would strengthen truth) . . . it is more like receding into a darkness. This is more like the actions of one "fomenting a deception" . . . "hiding away from the light". They will be too afraid to even quote "worldly" experts out of context soon.
I really feel this will be too much for some . . . the current GB seem way too extreme . . . and just a little rudderless.
I will not be surprised (delighted in fact), if the intake of "newbies" to JWN increases over coming months.
All this sensationalist rhetoric surely won't stick with a good many. Drawing so much attention to it may well backfire bigtime.
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Resigned
by Franklin Massey ini finally resigned as an elder.
my conscience wouldn't allow me to continue.
i've battled for years trying to reconcile the fallacies of the wt society with my own personal beliefs.
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I wanted everything I believed as a JW to be right. But I was wrong and I had to face it.
Yeah . . . I can relate as well Franklin . . . the role you're being asked to play while "knowing what you know" is a huge strain.
The fact that you gave it every chance is honorable . . . as is your decision at this time.
Eventually we realise we just can't "unknow" certain things. The road ahead could get bumpy . . . so I wish and hope the very best for you.
Glad to have you here, friend.
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The most horrible,Nasty,Mean,Elder,CO,DO, You ever knew???
by karter ini had one (elder) who loved to pick on the sisters who had an unbeliveing mate......he had short mans syndrome and got a kick out of it.. co, han hubler...anyone that knew him will know what i mean.. he was so disliked it was hard to get anyone to have him for a meal when he visited..
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Yep . . . remember the Hubler variety in spite of trying hard to forget him.
The last Congo I had any meaningful association with had a PO and wife who were about the nastiest people I've ever met . . . ever.
Harangued and hasselled an elderly brother over a personal dislike . . . tried to coerce him into signing a pre-prepared DA letter, refused to hold a funeral for his wife and tried to prevent anyone else from assisting. The elderly brother eventually sold up and moved town's along with no less than 5 other families within a few months. He tried to intimidate several brothers into selling half shares in thier businesses to him. He was also instrumental in the suicide of a 17 year old over a ten year old grudge with his father.
He and his wife were probably the prime motivators in about 15 - 20 questioning and eventually leaving the cult . . . so I guess we can thank him for that. Even a CO described them to me as "that bully and his Jezebel".
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How the WTBTS creates atheists
by Nickolas ini am an atheist.
i arrived at this juncture in my life despite not wanting to.
when i first met the witnesses at 22 i was a seeker looking for answers to the question of life - in other words, prime cult target material.
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Maybe still thinking . . . considering only 15% of the pop is Maori . . . and the great majority of the ones I've known view traditional Maori "spiritual" beliefs as a cultural legacy with traditions only . . . I can't be sure what the reference to believing in magic is based on.
I would have thought the numbers (maybe even the %) would be less than, say, Afro-Americans who believe in voodoo? . . . or Irishmen who believe in Leprachauns? . . . dunno.
Belief in magic is simply not something I've ever thought New Zealand would be recognised for . . . strange indeed.
Let's face it . . . the average Kiwi is more recognisable for having down-to-earth skepticism about those sorts of things . . . or am I wrong about that? . . . If I am I've been living a very sheltered existence within my own borders.
Not sure if Earthquakes and volcanoes are magic . . . but I sure as hell believe in them.
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It's been a whole year today!
by watersprout insince i joined this site!.
happy first birthday to me!.
peace.
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Yeah that's worth celebrating! . . . Happy "birth"day watersprout
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Your best one sentence JW comeback contest
by moshe ini am looking for your best jw comeback- the kind that makes a jw's jaw drop.
ok, even two pithy sentences will do.. here's one i have used before on jws,.
moshe: " do you know what an oxymoron is?
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A Global Flood fits secular and religious evidence.
Yeah . . . the rantings of "creation scientists" (doctorates and all) who make up less than 1% of qualified scientists, among whom they have zero credibility. I've read their assertions . . . they're laughable to the point of tears!
And a small representative of Fundamentalist mind-numbed Christians who think the Bible is infallible and literal.
Great collection of evidence! . . . I've got more respect for the members of the flat earth society.
That's my 3 sentence comeback to that tripe!
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A DOUBLE LIFE - What's the worst case you've seen
by sizemik inlots of jw's lead a double life.
many are young people that simply go through the motions until they can free themselves .
others have relatives or family still trapped .
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aSphere . . . unbelievable story (I do believe you)
I wish I could beat the shit out of that body of elders. Is anybody with me?
It's hard to think of anything more f****d up . . . laying guilt over the top of that experience. Beating the crap out of them would leave little of substance behind IMO.
Lotucus - karter - Amelia - Pig . . . classic double-lifers . . . still hard to imagine the conflict some people are prepared to live with.
Dune . . . how the mighty fall?
mickeyman1 . . . astounding! . . . was her father aware?
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How the WTBTS creates atheists
by Nickolas ini am an atheist.
i arrived at this juncture in my life despite not wanting to.
when i first met the witnesses at 22 i was a seeker looking for answers to the question of life - in other words, prime cult target material.
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Whoops!! I forgot - South America. Many people in South America still belive in magic, too...
And maybe parts of New Zealand, too...??
Are you serious?
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Life after death
by truthseeker ineveryone has different views about life after death and whether or not it is a possibility.. as jehovah's witnesses, we were always taught that there is no life after death, that this is the only life we have now and that the wages of sin is death.. .
what are your views on life after death?.
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There is no word I'm aware of that quantitatively and qualitatively identifies the "source of all energy". This is purely because nothing is known of the concept, except that the laws of energy determine it must exist. Hence no word for it . . . unless I'm behind on the subject?
The word "deity" has many applications and definitions depending on context . . . so I take your point that the word may not convey accurately the thought being discussed. It seems that many applications of the word are in reference to past and existing concepts of God and their being objects of veneration or worship.
This is not the context in which I used the word. The point being made is that it can be concluded scientifcally, that the energy manifesting itself as the physical world . . . must have a source . . . nothing more.
The "argument" is this . . . any conclusions beyond that are conjecture and/or speculation and therefore unscientific. This fact is born out by the fact that to date, the existence of a "god" cannot be proved or disproved scientifically. That being the case, the true scientist will leave the door open to either possibilty, regardless of his/her personal conjecture, speculation or personal belief.
To adhere to either theism or atheism . . . is not scientific. Each is a declaration of belief for which the supporting evidence is by no means conclusive . . . that's all.
It is often the inclination of the entrenched atheist to present thier argument as being more scientific . . . when in terms of known scientific fact, is simply not true . . . the physical world and what is currently known as to it's nature . . . does not preclude the existence of "god" in a general unfettered sense.
It's not that easy to divest oneself of previous convictions and prejudices . . . nor is it unusual to go looking for "the science" to support a strongly held belief. We are not as generous as we could be, in allowing for the unknown.
As for me . . . I am neither theist or atheist . . . because I have very little scientific proof of either. Well short of where I could declare either an "absolute".
In response to your conclusion, I could say that God's habitat is gradually being uncovered by advancing science. It is only erroneous concepts that are being eroded.