Bumped for anyone who feels like a laugh ... some of this is classic.
Getting a bit hard to add to however . . .
you might be a jehovah's witness if .
you know when nisan 14 is but you forget you own birthday.
you wash windows for a living but you own five suits.
Bumped for anyone who feels like a laugh ... some of this is classic.
Getting a bit hard to add to however . . .
autobiography.
forever began at the day of my birth, but, it turns out that it was a lie,.
i am who i am when nobody's watching, then nothing is there to deny.. .
As far back as I can recall
I lived a life with back to wall
Running scared, trying to fly
Somewhere between the earth and sky.
From the darkened sky, a star did shine
With radiance sweet, and a promise divine
A lifetime of service, and the light shall be ours
But the star has faded, the sweetness soured.
All that is life will also pass
So I live it now and live it fast
Sure of foot, flying high
At home between the earth and sky.
i readthe bibleentirely and i study in the past with jw, but i have many questions and doubts about god.
(sorry for my english).
is god a god of love?
This is a good question and I know the answer ...
The invisible part of God used to slay a lot of humans. When he wasn't slaying them personally, he was getting his angels to do it, or simply getting the humans to slay one another. Then he got pissed and kicked the board over killing everything. Always promises, promises. He was a murderous bastard (parents?) - no question about it.
Then Jesus came along, and apart from being a pretty good talker and a wee bit of an attention seeker, was a pretty sweet guy. Perfect personality for a cult leader, coincidentally. Anyway, with all that lovey-type stuff he learned off the Buddhists, he impressed a lot of people. So much so that they made him God, but still a man as well.
I would have simply scored it God-0, Human's-1, and encouraged God to go away and think about it some more.. Perhaps he too could learn something from this Human's good example ... especially kindness. Jesus was kind nearly all of the time.
So these two God's are sort of the same in the Bible (don't go there), and this creates a problem. Jesus is no "chip off the old block" by any stretch of the imagination. In this case the apple has fallen a long, long way from the tree. No "like father like son" here. Dad casually wipes out whole civilisations ... Son sweats over the sparrows and the hairs on your head! Yep . . . it's a problem. Not the same God I reckon. Jesus is the better choice though.
i haven't posted in 3 years.
my husband and i haven't gone to a meeting or memorial in 2 years.
what a great feeling!
Great post ... thanks for coming back and sharing that. I especially enjoyed hearing of your kids, growing up balanced and involved in the community ... that in itself makes it worth it. Freedom is relative of course, but the freedom to choose for oneself, rather than adhering to the decisions of others, is the only real freedom. It seems like you're making good choices.
lots of jw's lead a double life.
many are young people that simply go through the motions until they can free themselves .
others have relatives or family still trapped .
I don't visit much these days. So, nice to see this old thread getting another chapter.
Although it's mostly wanton human carnage, kind of like coming across a car wreck ... nasty stuff, but you just can't look away.
Going back 20 years I remember this quite popular brother. Popular, mostly on account of being fairly wealthy. He was the big wheel businessman - travelling frequently, smart dresser, big spender (with approved associates). Flash boat, car, house, you get the picture. "Friends" would be shouted all-expenses overseas holidays. All his employees (6 or 8 at any time) were JW's. He made himself popular with many Elders the same age group (employed some). I never liked him and he knew it (because I told him once).
I wasn't privy to or even interested in the details at the time, but it transpired he was a frequent patron of high-class, mid-class, streetwalking and two-bit hookers - wherever they might be found . . . for 12 years! Sooner or later one of them is bound to show up at an assembly or something. Facial recognition does the rest.
He was DF'd and reinstated in 6 months. He sat alone at the KH, but away from it was no different from before. What was amusing was how those "friends" all responded to his outing ... like startled ship rats wondering which end of the rope to run to. They were more relieved after the 6 months was up than he was.
His wife stayed with him. Her head hung for a lot longer than his did. Then she got pregnant and all was forgotten.
cheese lover here.
i don't post much, so refresher course: i've been dating an unbaptized jw for years.
he's not super into jwism and probably never will be because he thinks a lot of it is a pile of poo.. .
I enjoyed your reply. It sounds like you have the options, the approaches, and a time frame. Having 'moving on' among your options is being realistic. The only thing I could add, is that the real possibility of losing the relationship being a could be a decision prompt. Tough call though.
i'm not da or df and for some reason i can't bring myself to da just yet.
but i'm living in terror.
today it something came up that reminded me.
You're actually free of them already. I'm a "don't play by their rules" person I'm afraid. I chose to just walk away and refused to engage any Elders.. When writing a DA letter ... keep in mind it's a letter of dissociation. Do you really want to be the one who dissociates from them? It's kind of like Billy says ... disfellowshipping the whole organisation, because it is your initiative to dissociate from them. If you want to stop feeding into the dictates of the WTS ... walk away, say nothing. If you genuinely no longer want any JW as an associate ... then DA, walk away, say nothing.
cheese lover here.
i don't post much, so refresher course: i've been dating an unbaptized jw for years.
he's not super into jwism and probably never will be because he thinks a lot of it is a pile of poo.. .
cheese lover here.
i don't post much, so refresher course: i've been dating an unbaptized jw for years.
he's not super into jwism and probably never will be because he thinks a lot of it is a pile of poo.. .
I don't know how people don't just start talking to walls and eating paste in this religion.
They do. Little research has been done, but that which has suggests the incidence of mental illness and suicide is at a much higher level than the general populace. I'm an ex-wall-talker myself.
As for your BF, I trust you see good qualities in him that keeps you hanging in. Hopefully those qualities include an honest heart and an inquiring mind. His equivocating may continue for a while yet, but eventually he will have to make a call. Just keep feeding the dissonance and reinforcing a healthy fear of baptism. Youth often holds the illusion of time being of little consequence, and yet the day will come when every extra day wasted on this lot will be regretted. Good luck.
absolutely weird.
minding my own business while pumping gas - this 60 year old short jw lady with fluffed bun styled 60's hair and her 30 year old attractive 5 ' 10 inch jw lady partner came straight up to me as i'm pumping.
they picked the wrong hombre .
Nice one Flipper.
After years of waiting I finally got called on myself . . . but it's hardly worth a post let alone a thread.
I was so looking forward to it. I was in the lounge speaking on the phone when a Caucasian man with 2 little girls along with an Asian man wandered up my driveway. To get to the front door from the driveway requires opening a gate and approaching the door across a paved area. Apparently this was too far to come because on catching sight of me they stopped short of the gate and waved a piece of paper which looked like a tract ... not sure, I was still 20M away with the phone in my hand, standing in the lounge. Before I could respond or terminate the call, they had turned on their heels and left. Obviously they had some more urgent life-saving work to perform elsewhere.