The idea of increase is expressed in the fact that the strong lowest line of the upper trigram has sunk down and taken its place under the lower trigram.
Does that involve fruit? I'm confused.
long time lurker, first time poster.. .
i'm an ms (accounts servant) in a large congregation in canada.
over the last several years i've faught a hard-won battle to rid my mind of all religous and supernatural beleifs.
The idea of increase is expressed in the fact that the strong lowest line of the upper trigram has sunk down and taken its place under the lower trigram.
Does that involve fruit? I'm confused.
long time lurker, first time poster.. .
i'm an ms (accounts servant) in a large congregation in canada.
over the last several years i've faught a hard-won battle to rid my mind of all religous and supernatural beleifs.
Well I'm not gonna willingly become a slave. Anybody else willing?
Only if you promise not to whip me too hard . . . and there's fruit involved.
hi,.
i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.
also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.
I have always been a person who needed to feel loved and have people around me. Maybe i am like someone said "an easy target for the jw's"
Yes you are . . . "low-hanging fruit" is a popular analogy. But don't feel embarrassed . . . many of us were low hanging fruit at one time.
Another control tactic employed early on . . . is to alert you to receiving opposition and to say that this is expected . . . because Satan does not want you to have the truth. It creates a clever and powerful bias in you, toward any contrary or dissuasive influence. Don't fall for it . . . question everything.
High-control religions are not healthy for anyone grappling with depression. Stats are disputed, but rates of mental illness and suicide are significantly higher (at least 500% by some stats) among JW's and ex-JW's, than the general pop. It's simply not healthy living.
long time lurker, first time poster.. .
i'm an ms (accounts servant) in a large congregation in canada.
over the last several years i've faught a hard-won battle to rid my mind of all religous and supernatural beleifs.
Is that a pic of her cooch or a Brazilian rain forest ?
Nothing Brazilian about it . . .
allcool . . . that girl at the trailer park . . . I bet she had neat pubes. Shame that.
was just going through a few topics and this caught my attention, and since that thread looks pretty much dead i thought i would create a new one to add my thoughts .. so i would start by replying to as much criticisms as i can okay.
@jam: .
the purpose of the flood, because man grieved him to.
unshaved bum-fluff: commonly found growing wild on the face of adolescents to obscure pimples.
Analagous application: An unattractive shroud designed to obscure an even less attractive truth. (eg; W/W flood justification).
Just thought I'd tidy that up . . . I'm not here to offend fellow bums, unshaven or otherwise.
was just going through a few topics and this caught my attention, and since that thread looks pretty much dead i thought i would create a new one to add my thoughts .. so i would start by replying to as much criticisms as i can okay.
@jam: .
the purpose of the flood, because man grieved him to.
Oh come on . . . it was simply a temper tantrum because things weren't working out how he wanted.
Nothing actually improved . . . in fact, things just got even worse. We would call it a "toys out of the cot" moment if it was anyone other than God . . . the rest is all just unshaved bum-fluff.
long time lurker, first time poster.. .
i'm an ms (accounts servant) in a large congregation in canada.
over the last several years i've faught a hard-won battle to rid my mind of all religous and supernatural beleifs.
Because nobody can prove God doesn't exist.
Same reason I'm not a Theist.
just curious, if anyone had lost faith whilst on jwn and do u think it is an honorable experience?..
Even on this same thread Steve said, " I saw through "faith" long before I left the organization;" Many did not examine historical Christianity.
I can't speak for Steve and unless you know more than I do, that's a non sequitur. A person still in "the organisation" is in reality, as free as anyone to examine historical Christianity.
But why just historical Chritianity? . . . why not also the pre-Christian roots?, religion in general?, the psychological phenomena of belief? You must be certain of your objectivity before you begin.
I personally think that believing we are all here by random processes and chance is delusional.
It's hard to comment without knowing what you base that on.
just curious, if anyone had lost faith whilst on jwn and do u think it is an honorable experience?..
I've found it sad that many, not all, have left because of the idea that "If the Watchtower is wrong, then I'm done with a belief in God."
I'm curious as to this claim, as I've heard it before . . .
I know a reasonable number of ex-JW's and have never heard this reasoning . . . ever. The great majority have simply stood back and performed a more subjective evaluation of religion(s). The level of conviction is proportional to verifiable knowledge gained . . . not depth of emotion. This would represent a more natural human reaction to a deception of this magnitude . . . and a very reasonable one IMO. It hasn't been the emotional knee-jerk to WTS the above statement suggests.
So it doesn't quite stack up for me . . . maybe it's a cultural thing?