might be back, might not.
i really appreciate the historical information on the jw's this board allowed me to find out about.
it really put things into perspective.
I am not sure if it's me or you all, but this board seems to be full of more people trying to stay in the org rather than leave it. I have no interest keeping that kind of company.
To be fair . . . this does contain a qualifier.
It could simply be that time and distance have reduced your appetite for repeatedly hearing about the inner workings of WT world . . . I can understand that much, it happens.
I enjoyed your contributions and wish you all the best.
some members have been using the term creationism to refer to everyone that is not an atheist, and believes in god.
i just wanted to bring out the fact that there are a wide variety of beliefs.
not all that believe in god reject evolution, propose a young earth, and reject scientific methods.. some newer atheists have been saying that unless you are an atheist you do not believe in facts, reason, and logic.
I used to go around saying that exJWs tend to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I'm a bit like cofty and NC . . . I spent more than two years pursuing other forms of Christianity. I prayed more during that period than I ever did as a JW . . . many times through tears of desperation.
I toted that bathwater around with me the whole time . . . it was only when I finally realised there was no baby, that I threw it out.
some members have been using the term creationism to refer to everyone that is not an atheist, and believes in god.
i just wanted to bring out the fact that there are a wide variety of beliefs.
not all that believe in god reject evolution, propose a young earth, and reject scientific methods.. some newer atheists have been saying that unless you are an atheist you do not believe in facts, reason, and logic.
It's good to be aware of the differences but I see a huge danger in the constant application of these labels. Labels give differentiation but they also invariably over-generalise, thereby creating a prejudicial assumption which is often totally innaccurate. We then have an impenetrable barrier of bias to meaningful communication. It's nothing but an error of laziness.
I would rather folks simply confine themselves to the content and merits of each individual argument . . . and avoid making value judgements according to labels at all. Some of the recent threads have failed purely for this reason.
until recently, i had never encountered this word "believers" used as it is being used on this board, to describe pejoratively a group of people.
it's not clear to me whether they scorn all who have a faith of some sort.
do they include buddhists, hindus, followers of the baha'i faith, followers of the cargo cult, native americans along with christians, or is it just christians who are honoured with this epithet?.
Sizemilk I'm sending you a pm, hopefully you will read it.
Thank you . . . I will respond.
until recently, i had never encountered this word "believers" used as it is being used on this board, to describe pejoratively a group of people.
it's not clear to me whether they scorn all who have a faith of some sort.
do they include buddhists, hindus, followers of the baha'i faith, followers of the cargo cult, native americans along with christians, or is it just christians who are honoured with this epithet?.
you will pound us stupid believers . . . but hey if it suits your motive go for it. . . . ammo
Attributing motive . . . ie; I'm here to "pound you stupid believers"
Maybe you can all have a little meeting on how to shut down someone, I'm sure your leader, oh thats right you have no mate's let alone a leader... and you lot think believers lie and fool themselve's. . . . ammo
A snide, sarcastic comment also attributing motive, with the clear inference that I am a liar.
(put that down to bugger all education) . . . ammo
A put-down . . . yes, no?
Yeah . . . my perception is really off LOL. I'm done here.
just wondering.
i feel a little smugness from long time posters.
i got out as a kid 20 years ago and since i am a newbie here it feels like we are shown a little less respect.
Hehe . . . I remember feeling the same way . . . even started a thread about it.
It does feel that way . . . but as Satanus said . . . it's a familiarity/confidence thing. Also, folks will warm up as they get to know you better. An open mind will be an asset . . . but don't be afraid to say what you think . . . and don't take some folks too seriously. Good to have you here.
until recently, i had never encountered this word "believers" used as it is being used on this board, to describe pejoratively a group of people.
it's not clear to me whether they scorn all who have a faith of some sort.
do they include buddhists, hindus, followers of the baha'i faith, followers of the cargo cult, native americans along with christians, or is it just christians who are honoured with this epithet?.
I'm so sorry I got it wrong there's no spite, no putdowns, sorry I misread there is underlying aggressive bullying . . . ammo
I'm sorry to have to be the one to point this out . . . but the only spite, putdowns, and aggressive bullying I have encountered on this thread has come from you ammo.
You object to cut and paste and then continue to misquote, attribute motive and cast further slurs. What exactly is the point of that?
I won't get back on this thread because it will sicken me if I keep biting . . . ammo
Why don't you simply stay on the thread and stop biting . . . engage in discussion instead of biting all the time. I'm here and ready to that anytime.
until recently, i had never encountered this word "believers" used as it is being used on this board, to describe pejoratively a group of people.
it's not clear to me whether they scorn all who have a faith of some sort.
do they include buddhists, hindus, followers of the baha'i faith, followers of the cargo cult, native americans along with christians, or is it just christians who are honoured with this epithet?.
Yes I did . . . and they were all very nice PM's. I feel so relevant . . . validated even. I'm all tingly.
until recently, i had never encountered this word "believers" used as it is being used on this board, to describe pejoratively a group of people.
it's not clear to me whether they scorn all who have a faith of some sort.
do they include buddhists, hindus, followers of the baha'i faith, followers of the cargo cult, native americans along with christians, or is it just christians who are honoured with this epithet?.
This morning has been one thrill after another.
atheists are just waay cooler!
we're funnier, sexier and more beautiful.
deal with it you theist losers!
And I bet all your friends all say you haven't changed at all.
