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  Biggest Mathematical Miracle in the World

  by Moxy in

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  oh lordy.

  i dont usually post these messages i get from jw mailing lists.

  but this one is pretty hilarious:.

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  lurk

  OUTLAW im dyslexic. dictionarys dont help alot
  thanks for the suggestion thought it was very kind of you. :)
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  Biggest Mathematical Miracle in the World

  by Moxy in

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  oh lordy.

  i dont usually post these messages i get from jw mailing lists.

  but this one is pretty hilarious:.

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  lurk

  if your going to ojetc at least it should have reason to it....if there is a diety then who knows whats possible...if not then
  well you believe wrong.
  but as for archealogical record..get real.where in the desert would you like to start digging? and exactly how hard do you think it is to even plot a site for excavation based on a biblical story let alone pay for the diggers to dig it.........watchinbg to much time team maybe. theres not enough money to pay for the digs/excavation that we need let alone the digs that ppl want .
  If there is no areachologial record for parts of history i suppose history never happened..get real.
  On my last excavation it took 8 months to NOT find what we KNOW from record is buried there. we had a site marked by ruins
  with at least 3 previous excavations on the site and yet we still couldnt find what we were looking for...so according to ppl here the tomb we were loking for doesnit exsist ...........good job areaologists dont give up that easy, we may never find it but if we dont it doesnt mean that it isnt there it means that we can't dig up the road way or the other houses and we do not have the man power or more importantly MONEY.....the very idea that any could be expected to find remnants form israels wanderings in a large desert is silly to say the least . a lucky find? yes thats possible but to imagine the alternative and say this proves they were never there is rediculous.
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  Post your poems, or others' poems

  by ashitaka in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  this is my view of the witnesses, keeping to the jw theme here.

  i'll post a nice love poem too to make up for it.. comon people, show me your work, or stuff that you like!.

  ashi.

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  lurk

  STARS......annon

  as beacons flared in sudden hope
  they cause my heart and eye to gaze
  and i will watch forever more
  or then till mornings early haze

  GREETING..........bye some arab bloke

  i send you salams as many as birds fly
  as many as there are stars in the sky

  I love the Moxon Tennyson rossetti did stuff in their.id buy it if it did take a years wage.
  one of the most beautifully illustrated books ever.........

  http://www.speel.demon.co.uk/other/tennyson.htm
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  Prince & another known JWs

  by rekless in

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  dewayne blackwell & his co-writer of the song "i got friends in low places" sung by garth brooks .

  he also wrote "mr. blue" #1 hit in 1959. he was in my cong.

  in northern california.. larry graham's manager ron woodmansee is too...at lease he was in the seventies.he wqas also in my cong.

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  prince charles is JW?
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  Warning: Contains Half-Truths Hazardous To Health

  by MadApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  those of us who have previously spent years and even decades reading and studying wts materials regarding the "beasts" of bible prophecy and how "false religion" has supported such know full well the wts's habit of slicing and dicing quotes so as to make it appear that "christendom" has turned their back on god in favor of world governments and especially the united nations.

  in the july 8, 1996 awake, pages 22-25, an article entitled, the pope's un visit _ what did it accomplish?, criticizes the pope's visit and speech to the un during its' october 1995 50th anniversary celebration.

  typically, the article begins with sliced/diced quotes which "seem" to "prove" the wts's historic proposition that, although well-intentioned, christendom's faith has been misplaced in man himself, and the un.

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  wheres the full transcript ? please
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  The word [other] in NWT

  by apostate man in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry this is so long, but here is a series of e-mails i sent to the jehovah's witnesses united site and their response.

  it has to do with the nwt inserting the word [other]in col 1:16,17 and phil 2:9. pick it apart as you may.

  you may need an hour or two to read all of it.. (my original e-mail).

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  lurk

  i agree that its wrong to add anything ot the bible,even a word in brackets. though i will say that i understood that it was not ment to pass as original content . i dont see why its aproblem in understanding.i read with brackets and without to compare the gist of what ive read.

  col 1:16,17 NWT

  Col:1,16 Because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities.all[other]things have been created through him and for him.

  17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist.

  reading with out brackets verse 16

  Col:1,16 Because by means of him all things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities.all things have been created through him and for him.

  well its suppose to be about jesus as verse 18 further on confirms.

  starting at the begnning with the words, by means of him ?

  means is a way in which something is done isnt it? no probs there its simply saying that by gods first created being ( by this i mean the person that god made as a tool discribed in the scripture,also thought of as jesus pre earth life, differant discussion)... the things that followed were done.it has to mean the things that followed because its not possible for him to be used as a tool to create anything prior to his own creation.

  All things were created in the heavens and upon the earth?

  ALL THINGS........IN THE HEAVENS AND UPON EARTH.
  
  so here its saying that this created being was a means to creating the heavens down to earth and mentions governmenst etc that exsist on earth.the things visible and invisible draws the distinction between the house and stars you can see and the oxygen ,gases,radiation,darkmatter(which makes up the largest portion of the universe)black holes, you could go on for ever but for
  an ancient person or a jew long ago in biblical days the wind, the air he breaths ,sound, smell, pain, emotions etc might be more relevant.

  At no point does it mention creation of anything exsisting before the universe , why? because it is talking about the heavens and the earth which all come from one thing the universe..it does not mention that he helped create anything previous to the universe.
  .unless you see a pre universe statement that i can not.

  lastly from verse 16

  .all things have been created through him and for him.

  doesnt this just back up what was said at the start, that things were made through gods created being

  Col:1, 17

  17 All things have been created through him and for him. Also, he is before all things and by means of him all things were made to exist.

  this agrees with verse 16 where it says he was the means by which things were created.It says he exsisted before all thing,. this can simply mean all thing as stated in the verse 16. does this point to anything before pre universe.theres no reason i can see why it should. it simply can mean he exsisted before the things listed that he helped create.how long before the universe he exsisted it doesnt say. untill you look at other scripture

  quoting from the tanakh kethuvim/proverbs 8:22

  "22 The lord created me from the beginning of his course.As the first of his works of old.in the distant past i was fashioned,at the beginning, at the origin of the earth."

  
  he was created at the beginning ? at the origin of the earth
  what is the origin of the earth?

  the earths origin was in the forming of the universe which created the galaxys and the planets in them. a big bang/ gods energy? all depends which direction your coming from but it adds up to the same thing for me.
  the origin of the earth came from a gradual forming in space of hot and cooling rock that took prob millions of years where did the meterial for the planet come from? from all the other stuff out there , now im geting into bigbang territory, differant topic but gte my point.

  verse 27 of proverbs continues " i was there when he set the heavens in place"
  the heavens in place?

  this can only mean the creation of the galaxy and universe .

  what came before the universe scientists are still working on but already theres is string theory which suggest that our universe was NOT the begining of time. in what form or way or exactly when god/the creator created this being/tool for creation of the universe d its not possible yet for anyone to know.

  if ever this gets a reply ,be gentle that took me hours lol
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  MAJOR ALERT - UN 2nd LETTER on WTS/NGO

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on january 24, 2002 the interim head of the department of public information responded to my letter requesting disclosure of the watchtower file.

  even though dpi still refuses to give me the file, they did present some more facts on criteria for association.

  also dpi provides what their dpi committee alerted the wts too in the committee's 1992 letter of accreditation to the wts.. there was a delay in posting due to the fact that the dpi sent a wrong brochure to me that accompanied the letter.

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  much appreciated. thanks for the posts on the UN,been interesting reading.
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  MAJOR ALERT - UN 2nd LETTER on WTS/NGO

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on january 24, 2002 the interim head of the department of public information responded to my letter requesting disclosure of the watchtower file.

  even though dpi still refuses to give me the file, they did present some more facts on criteria for association.

  also dpi provides what their dpi committee alerted the wts too in the committee's 1992 letter of accreditation to the wts.. there was a delay in posting due to the fact that the dpi sent a wrong brochure to me that accompanied the letter.

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  thanks for the reply i'lll take it that the answer is no
  thankyou
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  MAJOR ALERT - UN 2nd LETTER on WTS/NGO

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on january 24, 2002 the interim head of the department of public information responded to my letter requesting disclosure of the watchtower file.

  even though dpi still refuses to give me the file, they did present some more facts on criteria for association.

  also dpi provides what their dpi committee alerted the wts too in the committee's 1992 letter of accreditation to the wts.. there was a delay in posting due to the fact that the dpi sent a wrong brochure to me that accompanied the letter.

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  it says in the section WHAT IS AN NGO

  ...........NGOs are diverse in structure,membership, and financial support..............

  i am wondering did the WTS make any donation or has it given financial support in any way to the UN as an NGO member ?

  sorry if ive missed this point, just read throuhg again but i might have missed it

  lurk
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  how many JW on this site

  by happy man in

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  the name of the site, jehovas vittness.com?.

  well sure we must have permission to say what we fell here, cant understan that ex say that this is ther site,.

  havent they red the heading.

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  4 hours? lol