http://www.religionnewsblog.com/12799 .
islamists in the minority spells trouble.... .
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051113/ap_on_re_eu/france_rioting_fr1 .
no they dont
bigots do
just like early christians
killing saxons who didnt convert
every religion every political view has got people like that
most people just wanna live
some people want it their own way
islam is where christianity was 15th century
world wide muslims are more at risk from their own people
i think
possibly
maybe
mmmmmmmmmm
anyone familiar with this?
any personal experiances?
i am interested in going.
hye shawn
some friends i had in the local church told me a bit about it.there comments wern't very positive im afraid though im sure there are lots of ppl who feel differantly and like it.
BTW this info is second hand from a friend who had friedns who went on an ALPHA course.
my friends friends got involved with the ALPHA group when their church went from C of E to evangelical.they were a little freaked out by it and did there best to avoid going back.
The new vicar at their church was very much that way inclined ,with his arrival come the new way of thinking such as holding your arms in the air so the holy spirit could travel down one arm and up the other!!!! he also so like to do a bit of mediumship, for example in the church service he would do stuff like announcing that he was feeling someone in the congregation was going on holiday and how could feel how nervous they were. some ppl left cause of hat they saw as breaking certain bible guide lines.he introduced the night dance sessions where music would be played extremely loud and ppl would dance for jesus type of thing (there was a name for this type of night but i cant remeber what ti was but ti was being done in other evangelical churchs too)
amongst the new things he brought with him were the ALPHA courses. people were sought out and pressure was put on them to attend the courses ,in the end some went along with it but came back from the course totally freaked out and went in a sort of secret groups that talked about how they didnt like it and were worried by the behaviour of the people there, they didn't feel able to say so to the vicar.they told me that people woud get hysterical ,Children were throwing them selves about on the floor apparently being cleansed. My contacts ,not old fuddie duddies but a few young ppl as well as easy going mature people, left the church that summer unable to stomach it.
I had already left the church and was into the WTS by this time and becoame even more convinced that i was right to leave .The vicar would not even look at me or acknowledge me once he knew,Apparently later the new vicar became unpopular due to his rude and some times very harsh treatment of some members of the church and moved on to make over another Cof E congregation.
i think you take a risk with all christian groups of getting bogged down in mans version what it means to be christian.go carefully shawn and remeber theres only one person between you and god and thats jesus.good luck with it all and please would love to know how it works out .i really do hope its more positive than ive been able to say from second had info.
lurk
according to my little cousin who was (never) one of jehovah's witnesses, i have been doing my (research) wrong.
he told me that if i wanted to find out information about the watchtower and the united nations, then i would need to start typing in (numbers) instead of letters and words into my search engines.
here is what he told me!-----see below:.
if to date no one had uncovered the watchtowers membership of the UN as an NGO
all we would see is little hints like this african aid thingy ,hints that they (the ppl up top running the show) are not being as loyal to the WTS beliefs as they expect the all JW's to be.and may have something bigger to hide.
which makes me wonder how many more hints there are in the literature that may not seem that obvious right now.
lurk
the following is quoted in it's entirety (excepting cited scriptures after each question) from the new release organized to do jehovah's will, pages 182-218.. .
questions for those desiring to be baptized.
part 1 elementary bible teachings.
blonde posted .................. *** g94 3/22 p. 15 Helping Those With AIDS *** The prudent AIDS sufferer realizes that others are sensitive about this disease. Therefore, out of respect for the feelings of those who want to be of assistance, it would be better for the AIDS victim not to initiate public displays of affection such as hugging and kissing. Even if there is little or no possibility that such gestures could communicate the disease, this restraint will show that the victim is considerate of others, thus engendering similar consideration in return. Realizing that many have fears of the unknown, the person with AIDS should not be quick to take offense if he or she is not invited to private homes right away or if it seems that a parent restricts a child from being in close contact with him or her. And if one of the Congregation Book Studies is held at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah?s Witnesses, it may be wise for one with AIDS to choose to attend there, rather than in a private home, unless that one has discussed the situation with the householder.
Are these the same ppl that published an article about the catholic church's response to Galileo Galilei claim that the earth went round the sun.? The idea being the JW's are not ignorant like other so called christians.Arn't they always publishing scientific articles showing how enlightening they are ,boasting about how well educated young JW's are and how impressed teachers are with them?.Love to see a teachers view of this sanctamonious crappola.
To say a person with HIV should not even hug or kiss in public is truely ignorant disgusting disgracefull and cruel way to treat a nother human , a sad sign of the mentality they want to spread among those young shining becones fo true love as apposed to worthless wordly love.
I'm sure this really helps anyone with AIDS to feel love, cared for and still a valued human being.
the WTs has literally told a sick person possibly near death to keep out of everyones way ,how to think and feel about there own illness to suit everyone elses ignorance .
truely sickening
great thread BTW
lurk
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i have heard recently that the society has some sort of financial connections with philip morris the tobacco giant.. is this true???
chukyy
thanks for he encouragement voyager
taylor do you think so ? from the begining ?
but then the money part of the WTS must be being run by investment people and city banker types as the the Brothers havent got the education or job know how.could it be they gave up jehovahs earthly organization over to to big buisness.
lurk
this randy bloke (i mean his name randy not that hes randy ..as in ...well.. you know ;)) says the wts is taking money from bush .
but i can't here the audio thingy cause my puters messed up.
http://www.randytv.com/wtandpolitics.htm.
ahah wow a frount ? really? mmmm sounds liek theres tons more to dig up .
thanks voyager i will mail that addy you gave
ta lurk
this randy bloke (i mean his name randy not that hes randy ..as in ...well.. you know ;)) says the wts is taking money from bush .
but i can't here the audio thingy cause my puters messed up.
http://www.randytv.com/wtandpolitics.htm.
voyager i tired but i cant find an addy
i thought this was the bloke of tv who shows up frauds ..you know the bloke who showed up magicians like gellar spoon bender as fakes. confused!! am in lala land here me thinks
lurk
this randy bloke (i mean his name randy not that hes randy ..as in ...well.. you know ;)) says the wts is taking money from bush .
but i can't here the audio thingy cause my puters messed up.
http://www.randytv.com/wtandpolitics.htm.
this randy bloke (i mean his name randy not that hes randy ..as in ...well.. you know ;)) says the WTS is taking money from bush . but i can't here the AUDIO thingy cause my puters messed up.
can someone tell me what it's all about? please!!!
http://www.randytv.com/wtandpolitics.htm
the link at the bottom last but one
lurk
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i have heard recently that the society has some sort of financial connections with philip morris the tobacco giant.. is this true???
chukyy
thus in this case in particular the WTS has ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL over the Trust.
the WTS has no right to refuse the trust left to them? by law it must except the money?
surely not ,surely the WTS is not bound by law to recieve money from this worldly money making trust with its big buisness investments..surely the Spiritual WTS ,is far above the gruby world of investment and Big buisness !! with all those solicitors keeping the flock clean from dirty worldly .
I remeber the Church of england getting caught with investments in alchol companies etc oh how the brothers and sisters sniggered at gossiped at the pure worldlyness and greed of this church of christendom.
the WTS has lots of money to take care of ..but why gamble it with investments why not just put it in the bank..and have the interest from that..there would be lots of it.
why use a system that is part of a bigger system the society has condemed as big buissness .
i had this crazy idea once that faith was somthing above money and investing and making more money
lurk
how can those doing the monitoring not be affected by what they read here?.
how can anyone not be affected by the paedophilia scandal, the un scandal, the 1975 debacle?.
how do they find someone to read here and still stay a jw?.
power or fear
power corupts ..coruption is not interested in truth
fear is to afraid to question
i wouldnt think a fearfull person could monitor this place id bet on power .
lurk
