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Ray ROCKS!

by headisspinning in

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well, i am almost finished reading crisis of conscience... i have a few pages left and i have to say that my eyes have been opened.

i am going to order ray's second book from freeminds.

maybe not right away.... might try to let it all sink in and process.... does anyone have a concise comment on what ray's final beliefs were before he died?

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I read about a quarter of it and it was enough to prove to me it's all a lie. I still want to finish it though!

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For you skeptics, if you don't believe in the supernatural, you will after watching this!

by PYRAMIDSCHEME in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfzitov1buo .

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LOL! I saw it coming! Here's what demons like to do while you sleep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh3YV_SYDw0

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Crazy theories and tough questions asked by a kid

by fade_away in

sorry for the lengthy thread, i've spent too many years preparing talks.

i can't help it.

i had so many questions as a kid when my dad read me "my book of bible stories".

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I also wonder why the Triceratops needed such long horns on his head. For protection or for scavenging? Protection against what? Vegetables and hay?

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Crazy theories and tough questions asked by a kid

by fade_away in

sorry for the lengthy thread, i've spent too many years preparing talks.

i can't help it.

i had so many questions as a kid when my dad read me "my book of bible stories".

"New scrolls will be opened" "wait on Jehovah". It's always the same answer I get. I guess the T-Rex was a scavenger. What was he scavenging? Vegetables and leaves and hay of course! Why else would you need razor sharp teeth.

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Crazy theories and tough questions asked by a kid

by fade_away in

sorry for the lengthy thread, i've spent too many years preparing talks.

i can't help it.

i had so many questions as a kid when my dad read me "my book of bible stories".

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That's a good observation. I've thought a lot about these things too even though we can't question these things without being shunned upon. But when did the WT change the 6,000 year old Earth teaching? I guess I must've been so zoned out of the boring meetings I can't remember any other teaching.

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How would the mind handle eternal torture in Hell?

by sabastious in

from what we know of the human brain how would it react to the stimuli of, say, 1000 years of burning alive?

what does a a mind that is used to burning as an existence act like?

would they eventually be able to stop screaming in pain on their own.

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Haha, I've read his stuff occasionally.

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How would the mind handle eternal torture in Hell?

by sabastious in

from what we know of the human brain how would it react to the stimuli of, say, 1000 years of burning alive?

what does a a mind that is used to burning as an existence act like?

would they eventually be able to stop screaming in pain on their own.

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Excuse my bad grammar. I'm kinda drunk.

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How would the mind handle eternal torture in Hell?

by sabastious in

from what we know of the human brain how would it react to the stimuli of, say, 1000 years of burning alive?

what does a a mind that is used to burning as an existence act like?

would they eventually be able to stop screaming in pain on their own.

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Maybe they people wiould eventually go numb and get used to it.

Satan: Number 21 you're up! Report to the ass burning torture chamber.

Number 21: Well, duty calls. *pulls down pants* Let's get this over with, I'm late for my daily skinned-alive and limb-severing torture.

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Crazy theories and tough questions asked by a kid

by fade_away in

sorry for the lengthy thread, i've spent too many years preparing talks.

i can't help it.

i had so many questions as a kid when my dad read me "my book of bible stories".

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Sorry for the lengthy thread, I've spent too many years preparing talks. I can't help it.

I had so many questions as a kid when my dad read me "My Book of Bible Stories". I seemed to be the only kid that had so many questions at the time. A lot of children just sat there and ate up those stories, but my curiosity made my dad a little uncomfortable. I was like 9 years old when I started having trouble imagining a God with no beginning. I could picture the infinite future of God but not the infinite past. Until this day I still have trouble imagining something with no beginning.

Was there possibly at one point an older God that created Jehovah? If so, where did THAT God come from and where is he now? Is he dead? Maybe Gods eventually die. Maybe they live for billions of years and like a star, just die and are replaced by a new God. Maybe Jesus will replace Jehovah after He dies, and in that sense God exists forever. Lol! I know it sounds stupid but as a kid, these funny theories made it easier for me to believe in God.

Another question I had: if Jehovah has no beginning, but the Earth began about 6-7 thousand years ago, then what was God doing a billion years ago? A trillion years? A quadrillion or a quintillion years ago? If he was alone in the universe for an infinite time, what took him so long to create life? A quintillion years before life I guess he just hovered in an empty black space all alone with nothing to do for so many years until just 6,000 years ago he finally decided to create the Earth.

A nother question was if lions and bears and wolves and such were meant to eat hay and be peaceful domestic animals, why did God create them with such sharp fangs and claws and obvious natural killing tools designed to rip through flesh? What about the dinosaurs? Why did the raptor had such a huge claw on each foot? Why does the T-Rex have such huge razor sharp teeth? I'm sure it's not for tearing viciously through hay and leaves. If you say that they developed sharp teeth and claws after Adam and Eve sinned, then isn't that evolution? Snakes have venom, sharks have teeth, and it was all used to eat vegetables and seaweed?

These questions eventually angered my dad when I wouldn't drop them. I remember he slammed the book shut half-way through the story and told me I'm asking too many stupid questions, then he went to bed. I felt so rotten and terrible! But I see now that I wasn't doing anything wrong. I just had curious questions. My dad must've taken these questions as an affront to God's existence but I didn't mean it that way.

But, wow! Now that I think about it, if a child can think outside of the box, why can't a Jehovah's Witness adult do the same? That's the only question I've asked with an obvious answer:...Brainwash.

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Anyone here have any experience with the "super-natural"?

by Knowsnothing in

and if so, would that prove an existence of evil-spirits (demons)?.

i have heard of a couple of stories of possession, or of jw's talking to spiritists and the spiritists having seen 2 men following the jw, either dressed all in black, or all in white, and very strong looking.

yet, i have never experienced any of it.. another experience that i heard is about a brother whose mom had super-natural strength, and tossed something really heavy.

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Who knows if all these experiences are true. Maybe they were accompanied by angels, maybe by demons, maybe it's all JW made up stories. I do believe that there is definitely something invisible that exists among us. I knew a JW friend who lived in a house haunted by something. A lot of my friends would stay one night at his house and never go back again cause they heard footsteps, breathing, and weird shadows. Sometimes they heard the cry of a baby coming from within the house. I'm not an Athiest, I do believe in god and I believe in the existence of demons. I mean, the evidence of possesed girls speaking in acient Hebrew and in a growling echoing voice is an unexplainable phenomenom that has been recorded many times. Something strange seems to exist.

But what I don't believe is the JWs being the one and only true religion.

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