dad was a great man, great, despite the religion.
he was powerful, tall and intelligent, yet humble and kind.
he was an introvert, and a circuit overseer.
Dear jwfacts,
My condolences and at the same time my admiration for your work, despite your upbringings and education. You wrote a nice, memoir for you father and it really sounds that both of you made peace. Good to know.
My father is disfellowshipped and started shunning me... (maybe because my mother puts pressure on him). I hope you can keep the good memories and forget about the others.
Peace and Happiness to you and your family.
Intel
ok, so the one scripture that supports the "overlapping generations" doctrine is the one about joseph having brothers, right?.
well, then, logically, if that scripture buttresses the glorious new light - and we know how long that "generation" was - we should be able to calculate the date for armageddon, no?.
allowing for a maximum period starting with the year of the birth of the eldest brother (reuben if i'm not mistaken), and ending with the year of the death of the youngest (benjamin, correct?
Gayle: that is really funny......how would Russell react to his "New Religion Version 3.7"
The WTBT$ sounds almost like some crappy software......bugs, bugs, fixes, patches,.......
often i wake up in a cold sweat wondering if i'm wrong.
life is short.
i have only a brief time to make a decision.
Dear Paul,
Everybody here tells you ONE important thing: What you are going through is normal! Don't panic, just let it happen....ideas, imaginations, etc. produce fear, but everything - every thought, every mental picture you might have about Armaggedon or whatever is torturing you - is only a bunch of chemicals and electrical impulses in your brain. Every single human is a composite of atoms swirling around a nucleus...electricity in swinging motion. Really. This is a scientific fact. Fear is imaginary. Many things are imaginary.
Paradise on earth, worldwide destruction, etc. are only imaginary. They can print this a gazillion times, it does not make it real!
There is soo much circular reasoning to come to THAT conclusion, that it boggles the mind. Really.
Stick to the facts - facts known by you! Go over them in your mind. It is YOUR choice what to think. YOU create your own Reality. The one you have right now, was implanted by the WTBT$....
I wish you the very Best in Life, my friend.
DaCheech,
I wish you the best - really - for your approach. May peace and a wonderful life become yours! I am trying to make the best of mine - I am not going to look back - some days I cry, some others I advance with new stuff that is happening in my life. I have a girlfriend - it started a couple of weeks ago, totally unexpected by myself, because this wasn't something that I was looking for - at 40 I didn't feel that a relationship would be even necessary.
.....talked myself into the idea that I will become a writer, surround myself with a bunch of cats (they are at least honest and let you know that they stay with you as long as the food is regular and the oven is warm - no false pretendings here - just as it is)....
...but now this wonderful girl came into my life and she is noticing my "JW-isms" and she is helping me a lot!!!!
discreetslave: yup, don't give up my friend.
DaCheech:
Every person, family is different. Please come here to get different viewpoints to tackle the same problem, but at the end: don't compare yourself to others here. You don't know their personal situation and we don't know your feelings. Some people will tell you that you have to leave "stonecold" because otherwise you're a "covard", others will say to stay in and do a "soft approach" (see carlas post). I don't recommend neither one or the other: Do YOUR OWN thing!
Even this is a way of freeing yourself from "JW-thinking". Follow your own conscience and thoughts. Relax. Don't rush.
Myself? I did all of this. Was a Bethel "heavy" once, elder...the whole show....gave up on everything and stayed in to "appease" family & wifey. Took the "soft approach" (carlas suggestion, reading just the Bible, etc. going to the Hall, talking my wife "out of it"....)...
....after 5 years: Didn't work. I DA'ed myself cold turkey. My wife left me and took my three year old daughter, to her parents. I will life with this, until the day that she is old enough to understand. Then. Only then, will she understand and have someone outside the cult to help her. If she wants to stay in and ignore her own father - then so be it. They have NO MORE POWER over me, not even by hijacking my family. Here WTBT$, stick it up your A&%$.
did that get your attention?
hahahahahaha.
seriously, what i've been running around my head is:-.
I can help you, my friend! If this is all about the Google ads....here you go:
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Hope the keywords help give your thread "some quality ads"
ok, so the one scripture that supports the "overlapping generations" doctrine is the one about joseph having brothers, right?.
well, then, logically, if that scripture buttresses the glorious new light - and we know how long that "generation" was - we should be able to calculate the date for armageddon, no?.
allowing for a maximum period starting with the year of the birth of the eldest brother (reuben if i'm not mistaken), and ending with the year of the death of the youngest (benjamin, correct?
Very good Terry
Do you know the story of "Kissing Hank's Ass?" Excellent for a good laugh, plus it is soooooo JW...here is the link:
if i may, i would like to offer another glimpse into the strange minds of the writers of the more recent watchtower study editions, this time on the topic of sport.. no doubt like many of you, i enjoy playing sport because (apart from anything else) regular exercise stops me from becoming fat and unhealthy.
during my time as an active witness, i often had the opportunity to play sports with other brothers, although i became increasingly frustrated that this was not (in my case) organised on a more regular basis by those in my congregation; rather, games of my particular sport were organised less and less frequently until they became virtually non-existant.. things have improved considerably since i became inactive and was improperly shunned by those 'brothers' i used to play sport with, because i have begun playing my particular sport with so-called "worldly" people in my local community.
apart from allowing me to get back into some semblance of shape (thereby keeping mrs cedars happy) i am also able to keep in touch with my neighbours and be more sociable with those who live near me.
cedars: I've had such a good laugh with your writing style. Superb!!!!! "Did she get pregnant by a handball?" ahahahahahahaha.....very, very good stuff there.
There is a solution to your problem: This Sport is less known, I can guarantee that there is no TV transmission of this AND you can enjoy this ALONE, no pesky worldly Teammates. Plus you have good shirts for Service Meeting on Sunday (if you practice on Saturdays!!)
May I present you: Extreme Ironing! (it exists!)
continuing on my objective sojourn through the latest watchtower study editions, i thought i would write a few words about the article "god's rest - have you entered into it?
" taken from the july 15th watchtower.
incidentally, this watchtower is the same one that i discussed on my previous post concerning the society's latest bout of apostate-bashing.
Don't worry cedars I know that article. Was an elder once......had to read through that to talk to parents abouth their disfellowshipped sons and daughters.....I still feel terribly sorry about that. The grip that they have on people is creepy....
continuing on my objective sojourn through the latest watchtower study editions, i thought i would write a few words about the article "god's rest - have you entered into it?
" taken from the july 15th watchtower.
incidentally, this watchtower is the same one that i discussed on my previous post concerning the society's latest bout of apostate-bashing.
Keeping gawds orga clean sounds a lot like "ethnical cleansing"......were talking about HUMANS.......this also sounds like "keeping Germany clean of Jews and Gipsies"
