Nebeska Nada, I sent you a PM too. I was just curious if any letters of interest have come through lately. Does anyone post this stuff online?
jworld
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Has anyone ever tried to guess the login of a family member elder to get in?
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Why So Many Young People Are Leaving The Watchtower
by Jeremy C ini have been giving a lot of thought to the young people who are leaving the watchtower organization in recent years.
last night, i was reading the thread posted by jwfacts a while back in which he provided some statistics and graphs showing the rapidly declining growth in the watchtower.
one factor that was discussed at length was the high number of young people who do not stay in the organization.
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jworld
"The Watchtower organization simply has nothing new to offer, and no new ideas."
Doesn't it go back to their world view? If you really believe the end is going to come soon (usually within a couple years or so) there is simply no time/no point for new ideas. In some ways it seems that the leadership as well as the R&F just believe they should tread water until the new system comes and then they can embark on new ideas.
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What is the average cost to build a new Kingdom Hall
by jworld ini was recently told that the average cost to build a new kingdom hall in the united states rural midwest region was $250,000.
i was shocked to say the least.
i remember when my childhood congregation built a new hall in 1989 for $60,000.
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jworld
ok so maybe $250k is reasonable. I have heard concrete work is amazingly expensive and one of the biggest items in home construction.
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What is the average cost to build a new Kingdom Hall
by jworld ini was recently told that the average cost to build a new kingdom hall in the united states rural midwest region was $250,000.
i was shocked to say the least.
i remember when my childhood congregation built a new hall in 1989 for $60,000.
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jworld
I was recently told that the average cost to build a new Kingdom Hall in the United States rural midwest region was $250,000. I was shocked to say the least. I remember when my childhood congregation built a new hall in 1989 for $60,000. The difference seems to far exceed the inflation rate.
I found that what cost $60000 in 1989 would cost $104136.80 in 2010. It's difficult to get a straight answer on how the RBC prices project. Is there anyone here on a RBC that can talk about who prices these projects out?
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Do you think Jehovah's Witnesses have more attractive young adults than average?
by sabastious ini was recently hanging out with someone that went to the convention last weekend.
he/she mentioned that the convention was chock full of hotties and from my memory of the conventions, and i have been to dozens, he/she was right.
one thing that comes to mind is that witnesses can lose privileges within the congregation if they are too dirty so cleanliess (neatness) is especially important.
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jworld
Yes I would agree, that the young adults at the convention look attractive. Just out of curiousity did this person attend a convention in the US?
In the US, one thing that I find turns me off is all of the tattoo's people are getting. It's a huge fad here! I don't find them attractive, so when you see young adults without them I personally am more attracted to them. JW's also have that business look. Young people dressed up will always be more attractive than a tatted up person wearing rag shorts etc. Just my two cents...
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Scan needed 1897 Thy Kingdom Come
by jwfacts in.
does anyone have a copy of the 1897 studies in the scriptures, or a scan?
i particularly am after page 342. .
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jworld
Very interesting. This is where the Pyramid is used to calculate when Jesus would return?
The beginning of this book reads like some sort of utopian manifesto. I'm still scanning through it. Thanks for the link!
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Has anyone, other than me, tried to get your friends/loved ones to prove 1919?
by garyneal inhas anyone, other than me, tried to get your friends/loved ones to prove 1919?.
did they really try to prove it to you or did they write you off as hopelessly lost or somewhere in between?
as some of you are aware, i have been trying to get my wife to prove it to me, and if not her, another believing jehovahs witness.
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jworld
You can only argue from material in the WT Library. Anything not there simply doesn't exist to a JW.
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Has anyone, other than me, tried to get your friends/loved ones to prove 1919?
by garyneal inhas anyone, other than me, tried to get your friends/loved ones to prove 1919?.
did they really try to prove it to you or did they write you off as hopelessly lost or somewhere in between?
as some of you are aware, i have been trying to get my wife to prove it to me, and if not her, another believing jehovahs witness.
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jworld
I've found that it doesn't matter what is written in the past and the JW's I talked to would only debate from WT material still in circulation. Anything out of circulation they just shut down and won't even look at it. I guess old WT publications go from truth to literature from the Devil and his demon apostates.
Now I just find current stuff to pick at. There is enough there too.
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First Attempt with my mom
by jworld inthis was to much, i had to write my mom in an attempt to see if she would think outside of the box.
i have brought this subject up with them before regarding how the truth really isn't being preached in the entire earth and what that means for all those people.. this is what i sent:.
iran's supreme court says an evangelical pastor charged with apostasy can be executed if he does not recant his faith, according to a copy of the verdict obtained by a religious rights activist group.
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jworld
I had another conversation with my mom. This time she was telling me about her bible study. She said they were covering 1914. I replied and said I'm surprised that is still covered!
This is what she said:
"Well, we are doing chapter 9 in the Bible Teach Book -- Are We Living in 'the Last Days"?
I had skirted all around why we believe the kingdom was established in 1914 chronologically, but finally decided to use the information from the Appendix. She obviously has had the help of Holy Spirit in gaining the understanding of what she has already learned, so I figured we would go through it. She seemed to grasp it pretty well, but I told her to look over the information again, and go thru the scriptures, so we'll see how it goes next time. I have attached the information with this email."
I had to laugh at the idea that the holy spirit helps people learn watchtower doctrine. It's amazing just how the stars have to align to convert a JW. You have to be the luckiest person on earth. First you have to be born in a nation where there are at least some JW's. Then you have to be home when they call, and subsequent calls. You have to be in a position where you are open to religion (usually only after a major life event). Then you have to roll the dice with the holy spirit. It's shocking anyone can beat those odds.
Anyway the attachment contains the information from the What Does the Bible Really teach book.
It starts:
DECADES in advance, Bible students proclaimed that there would be significant developments in 1914. What were these, and what evidence points to 1914 as such an important year?
I replied and said that is not a transparent statement, since prior to 1914 the bible students believed that 1914 would mark the end of Armageddon and the anointed would all be taken to heaven. Only after 1914 did the significance of the date become more clear.
I chose not to refute 1914 directly (since really you can’t refute it totally you can only argie it endlessly) but simply point out what is a fact, that 1914 had a different significance for JW’s prior to 1914 and it changed after the date. It’s shocking how it’s worded just so, that the bible study is led to believe the Holy Spirit guided the organization prior to the date.
I haven’t received a response yet.