Seriously.. I think you are overreacting a bit on the smurf issue.. Where im from, we have never heard of any reason to avoid smurfs, and i have never heard the smurf stories that you post in here.. Dont know if it is an american phaenomenon, but it is not like youre gonna get D/F for watching that movie..
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New 3D smurf movie
by jwfacts inthere is a smurf movie coming in july.
http://www.smurfhappens.com/ they look like the avatar in miniature.. do you think this time around jws will be able to see it, or are they still considered demonised?
will there be a new generation of kids hearing about smurfs running out of kingdom halls, and will they be told about it by the overlapping generation?.
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Undercover Brother Campaign- have you received your invite?
by stuckinamovement inwithout specifics being mentioned as to what it is......(to avoid tipping off certain lurkers).. how many people know about the upcoming summer long campaign?
please use this thread to confirm receipt of your campaign invitation.
take care.
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Also curious ;) PM Please :)
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Danish article about shunning. Very interesting.
by worried ini just found a danish article in "jyllands posten" (yea, the ones who printed drawings of muhammed once).
i hope that my translation is ok, otherwise, please tell me if there is somewhere you dont understand it.. .
jehovahs witnesses to be investigatedmembers are encouraged by the leaders, to cease contact with those leaving the society.. .
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works now :) Thanks
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Danish article about shunning. Very interesting.
by worried ini just found a danish article in "jyllands posten" (yea, the ones who printed drawings of muhammed once).
i hope that my translation is ok, otherwise, please tell me if there is somewhere you dont understand it.. .
jehovahs witnesses to be investigatedmembers are encouraged by the leaders, to cease contact with those leaving the society.. .
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Mickey mouse: Im sorry, but there is an error when opening you PM :(
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Danish article about shunning. Very interesting.
by worried ini just found a danish article in "jyllands posten" (yea, the ones who printed drawings of muhammed once).
i hope that my translation is ok, otherwise, please tell me if there is somewhere you dont understand it.. .
jehovahs witnesses to be investigatedmembers are encouraged by the leaders, to cease contact with those leaving the society.. .
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Hi.. Link to original article
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Danish article about shunning. Very interesting.
by worried ini just found a danish article in "jyllands posten" (yea, the ones who printed drawings of muhammed once).
i hope that my translation is ok, otherwise, please tell me if there is somewhere you dont understand it.. .
jehovahs witnesses to be investigatedmembers are encouraged by the leaders, to cease contact with those leaving the society.. .
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worried
Hi.
I just found a danish article in "jyllands posten" (yea, the ones who printed drawings of muhammed once)
I hope that my translation is ok, otherwise, please tell me if there is somewhere you dont understand it.
Jehovahs Witnesses to be investigated
Members are encouraged by the leaders, to cease contact with those leaving the society.
The management of jehovahs witnesses constantly encourage and guide the 14.500 members in Denmark, to break contact with individuals who leave the religion.
This is what the support group for formers jehovahs witnesses is accusing of.
Experienced it
»It is not merely a claim from our side. As former jehovahs witnesses we have experienced it from inside – and seen what happens when you break out« Says the support group's chairman Poul Dal.
He is a former »elder« in Jehovah's witnesses, as the forerunners of the religion are called. Poul Dal refers to the July edition of the religion's magazine "the watchtower", where the apostates are descriped as "mentally ill"
»Jehovahs Witnesses is a very conceit society. a lot of the members end up married to each other, and a lot being related to each other. That is why it has tremendous consequenses for the individual, who chooses to leave the society. You cant just leave Jehovah's witnesses and join the danish church or another religion. You will be shunned, and your friends, acquaintances and family within the society will be told to avoid contact with you« he says.
Spokesperson denies
The spokesperson for jehovah's witnesses in Denmark, Erik Jørgesen, denies that apostate members are considered mentally ill.
»But in the perspective of following the correct teachings, they have a sick perception of things. And the bible clearly shows, how we should view apostates.« Says Erik Jørgensen
Jehovah's witnesses have been preaching in Denmark since the 1890's, but were not accepted as a religion before 1970.
That happened in connection with the introduction of a new marriage legislation, where Jehovah's Witness were allowed to administer weddings.
Meanwhile Jehovah's witnesses - quite surprisingly - were accepted as a religious society, and achieved a number of tax advantages. Today we have a special guidance for approval of religious societies, where a number of criteria must be met. In these guidelines it is stated (among other things) that it is regarded a prerequisite, that approved religions like the general society, respect human rights, especially freedom of religion and belief, including the right to change religion, or to choose to not associate with a religion.
»Jehovah's witnesses does not meet these requirements« is the opinion of Poul Dal, head of support group for former Jehovah's witnesses.
Political processing
Spokesperson of churches Per Bisgaard, is going to present the case to the legal comittee, and the church comittee. While "de radikales" spokesperson of churches Bente Dahl because of the accusations, have raised a question regarding paragraph 20, to the minister of justice Lars Barfoed.
Bente Dahl requests an answer to, whether there is enough documentation, to prove that jehovah's witnesses today meets the current requirements, as an approved religious society.
(this is where it gets real interesting)
»As politicians, we are not to mendle with peoples private, social relations. But if the leaders of a religious society recommends, that its members should avoid contact and association with persons, who leave the society, we have a serious problem« Bente Dahl states.
The minister of justice Lars Barfoed do not wish to comment the case, before he have given an answer to the parliament.
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Does this mean that Denmark is going to be an even more harder place for the WTB? It is not an easy country to run a religion in. It is also often regarded as the most difficult country to preach in, as people generally dont care about religion.
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Remaining Steadfast When Grandparents Shun
by Bangalore inremaining steadfast when grandparents shun.. http://jehovahswitnessrevealed.com/2007/jehovahs-witness-shunning.
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Alanv
totally agree with you.. that is 100% the way they would react.
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Elder on my JC Killed in Warehouse Accident!
by jookbeard inalmost chocked on my cornflakes this morning reading the story in my local paper, not too sure how to embed the link but the sutton guardian.co.uk will have the story now.. basically dave churchill worked for a local catering company and was moving a stack of tables with some sort of trolley and they toppled down landed on him he died 2 days later in st george's hospital.. i'd known him most of my adult dub life and he was an elder in my ex wifes congregation, he also gave our wedding talk, he is survived by his wife elaine , they never had kids.. during my dissent into "apostasy" he was selected as one of the elders on my jc because he knew me but during my jc he came across and as an arrogant,self righteous,argumentative down right rude pos certainly showed characteristics that i had never experienced before and along with his "mate" on my jc another bellend named stan rogers started this bad cop/good cop shit on me during the 2 weekends on meetings, the other 2 on my jc chairman geoff woodfield and rensford ming showed themselves to be decent men.
3 amazing incidents have be felled these 2 men in the years that followed my jc, events that i've rarely mentioned much over the years.. isn't karma an amazing thing.
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jean-luc picard
i have to disagree with you on that one. We have often been told that Jehovah would never punish a human being in such a way.
Although it wouldn't be impossible if someone would still say it. however, they have no scritural reason to say it.
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Were you ever DF'd? For what and how long?
by QuestioningEverything ini was df'd when i was 20 or so for fornication.
i got reinstated when i was 24. i had a son during that time and i was worried about us if we didn't get back to the fold and 'protection' of the organization.
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Guess they didn't like me drunk at the meetings
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Were you ever DF'd? For what and how long?
by QuestioningEverything ini was df'd when i was 20 or so for fornication.
i got reinstated when i was 24. i had a son during that time and i was worried about us if we didn't get back to the fold and 'protection' of the organization.
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had a public reproof once.. For drinking..