Posts by Kensho

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"Overlapping Generations"... one year later...

by Alfred in

wow, it's hard to believe it's already been about a year since this subject was covered in the wt study at kindgom halls around the globe... let's read it just one more time, so we don't forget just how ridiculous this sounded when we first read it.... watchtower (study edition), april 15th, 2010 issue, pages 27-29:.

"this magazine has long been used by the faithful and discreet slave as the primary channel for dispensing increased light.

... what does this explanation mean to us?

Kensho

Here's a clue from the recent S.A.D. (great acronym) we just had, Br. Suiter D.O. subing for bethel speaker, his opening words of final talk

"Friends here is where you get to think ......but just for a little while...... (then he goes into his talk not related to this topic)

That pretty much sums it up when it comes to these kinds of major changes in WT doctrine or "new light" the rank & file are not allowed to think or ask questions about goofy crap like this for fear of being marked as apostate so they just go along with the flow.

I don't anyone who would try to explain this at the door as many can't even do the fuzzy math for the 1914 scam.

Ray Franz was a true prophet in his book C of C he stated they GB would eventually have to deal with 1914 date and "generation" mess and he was absolutely correct.

Kensho

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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?

by Kensho in

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friends

apostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.

i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.

Kensho

Elderite

Thank you for your comments,and I apologize if my question was phrased as being judgemental.... I gave that up a couple of years ago.

I absolutely think every Jdub has to exit on their own terms and only a Jdub knows or understands the potential cost of doing so no matter what responsibility they have in the cong.

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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?

by Kensho in

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friends

apostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.

i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.

Kensho

where is Terry when we need him? He can always seem to get a serious discussion going.

I'm not trying to stir anybodies pudd'n and although no longer an elder I'm a hypocrite still stuck in as well so I'm not casting any stones, just trying to understand the mindset of others on here.

IMHO this place could help many who are lurking (and I beleive there are many) but lately it seems very childish and petty. Thus the reason for only 49 post in one year.

Kensho

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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?

by Kensho in

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friends

apostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.

i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.

Kensho

Can you two children take that crap outside! the adults are trying to have a serious conversation.

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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?

by Kensho in

jw
friends

apostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.

i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.

Kensho

well that was an intelligent explanation, thanks for clearing that up.

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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?

by Kensho in

jw
friends

apostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.

i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.

Kensho

Apostates Undercover Elders (I know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a JC envoling a publisher viewing sites like JWN or others and who question the GB etc.

and if not what if you were assigned a JC involving apostacy?

I would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.

kensho

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You can be a Professor at a University but no higher Ed. for Jdubs WTH?

by Kensho in

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anybody know about a brother h. latchman in fl.

a jw elder was talking to me about him.

he was so impressed with the fact that he was a. sub.

Kensho

Anybody know about a brother H. Latchman in Fl. a JW elder was talking to me about him. He was so impressed with the fact that he was a

sub. C.O. the COBE at his hall and travels for the branch setting up the IT communications for the zone overseers meetings and get this

his day job Professor at a major University!

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems a tad hypocritical, how can this brother counsel a young brother or sister not to go to college because of the evil climate on campus and go to work the next day and teach "worldly" kids in that same environment?

I mentioned this to my Elder friend and he said Well.....that's not the same thing now is it? Wow talk about cognitive dissonance

Kensho Satori

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We Believe...A Short primer on Witness Doctrine

by stuckinamovement in

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we believe that 99.9% of earths population will be soon put to death because of their unrighteousness and hatred of god.

this probably means that you wont make it.

sorry bout that.. god is using us to warn the entire world of mankind.

Kensho

Awesome Siam!

Hard to believe I peddled that crap for 40 yrs. and hard to believe I'm stuck in for family and lifelong friends.

How do you maintain your sanity, as I understand you are still serving as an elder! I couldn't handle that and was able to manuver my deletion a couple of years ago and stay in "good standing" but I still have a major mind frack just doing the bare minimum to stay undercover.

Any secrets to keeping sane while living in the "truth" while knowing the TRUTH would be appreciated, if not on this thread send me a PM

Keep up the great post, they may seem silly to some, but they keep it real for those still "stuck in a movement"

Peace

Kensho Satori

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They all look alike now.

by AK - Jeff in

funny the way our minds unwind and refocus after leaving a high control religion.. when i first left the jdubs i saw them more closely to what the entire world sees them i suppose, but not truly clearly at those early stages.

they still looked to me to be 'good people' but misguided.

as time went on, though the misguided feature remained, the 'good people' supposition faded.

Kensho

Spot on Jeff!

I agree with your comments which is hard for me to admit after 4 decades of 100% belief in the Bible and the org. The exception- I still beleive in a creator but from the view point of a Deist which has alowed me to unite my faith with the gift of God given reason.

IMHO every xJdub should read Thomas Pane's book AGE of Reason (1775), Pane was one of the founding fathers of America, a Deist who dispised the Bible and revealed religion but believed in a creator. Don't let the date it was written stop you it is an eye opener!

After waking up (with a lot of help from JWN) and realizing I wasted 40 years of my life in WT world, Deism has prevented me from setting my hair on fire and running down the street naked!

May we all Find Peace,

Kensho Satori

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Need suggestions-how to put together a local JWN meeting together without getting busted?

by Kensho in

greetings to all those who are out and those living under the shadow of the org.!.

i need some suggestions on vetting people on jwn who may be in my area for a local meet-up.

i have my suspicions that we have many in my area who post.

Kensho

DOC,

thanks for the warning, I'm at the end of almost a 2 yr. fade and have been working on family, one was fadeing out at the same time so we are both undercover, so I may take the risk.

My motives are somewhat just curiousity and the other is to be of support to local faders after 40 yrs. in and just waking up I have come to realize what a head trip this is and just having others like people here on JWN can be a life saver. Two years ago I would be burning "me" at the cross!(oops I mean stake)

Being in for so long and an ex-elder I know how to push the envelope, but I would appreciate you pointing out any threads with the experiences of others who failed-its good to learn from others mistakes.

Kensho