"it is a counterfeit love that is contingent upon authority, punishment, or reward.
true love is respect and admiration, compassion and kindness, freely given by a healthy, unafraid human being.".
- dan barker, losing faith in faith.
Hello Claudia:
"It is a counterfeit love that is contingent upon authority, punishment, or reward. True love is respect and admiration, compassion and kindness, freely given by a healthy, unafraid human being."
Excellent quote, very true …but ignored most of the time , by the WTS.
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
question: does the watchtower society want individual witnesses expressing personal viewpoints about vital religious issues to persons whose intent is to record and document the findings?
the following letter written under the new letterhead from the societys service department documents the answer to this question.
christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses.
To Marvin: I 'm sure that you notice on the WTS letter:
"The elder could provide such researchers with a copy of the brochure Jehovah’s Witnesses—Who Are They? What Do They Believe? On page 13 of the brochure, the basic beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses are listed together with the Scriptural reasons for those beliefs. We accept the Bible as the inspired Word of God. It is the basis for all our beliefs and teachings. It is reliable, whereas tradition is not. "
So according to this letter …" the Bible is THE BASIS FOR ALL OUR BELIEFS"???
I'm not going to provide a list , you all know …this kind of reasoning is again for the benefit of the media.
Like this part too:
"In addition, reference can be made to the Watchtower Society’s Web site so that the researcher may have access to a wide array of information, all of which explains the Scriptural basis for the position that Jehovah’s Witnesses take on vital issues".
To Seeker: .
"Without mentioning the real issues that are about to be asked about, they talk about minor issues for which ready answers can be provided. Everything else that the elders are not prepared for should be directed to the Society, with no comment from the local brothers. Thus reporters will be turned away when this happens."
Very good, straight to the center!
And also from Ozziepost:
"It's always intrigued me as to who a "qualified elder" might be? Using the adjective 'qualified" implies that there are other elders who must be 'unqualified' doesn't it?"
You're …not alone Ozzie!
Agape J.C. MacHislopp
i would like to share with you the following comparison that is based from the book the firm by john grisham:.
the main character is mitchell mcdeere, a young advocate who was recruited by a small, but well-respected law firm.
they promised him a colourful future if he abide with their codes.
Hello BJ,
Very good post!
It looks, it sounds very, very familiar…therefore very sad!
I do like expecially this part:
"One day, he notice another change in the WTS teachings. This leads him to investigate. He soon discover, he is misled on many other things."
It seems …the beginning of the end.
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
from the chicago sun times:.
-100 baptized = 0.7% of attendance.. - interesting comment on those in attendance being largely african-americans; presumably in chicago those deprived of education and opportunity are from non-white groupings (?)..
expatbrit.
Hello Expatbrit,
thanks for the article.
Another one for the "media "...we know really
the rest.
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
these are some observations about genuine hatred and imaginary hatred as it exists in the ever-goofy mindset of the watchtower organization.
many thanks to jwd for getting me to think about this matter in yet another way.. firstly, the evidence that jws actually do hate not only the deeds, but the people who commit deeds they deem wrong is abundant.
there are many, many web pages dedicated to this subject, and dozens of wts quotes to draw from.
Hello Farkel,
thanks for the post! Great I do agree with
your line of reasoning on this specific subjetct.
I'll keep it in the file for further reference.
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
adoption by jehovah's witnesses is blocked .
the independent - united kingdom; may 26, 2001. by brian farmer.
a couple originally approved by a council as adoptive parents have been refused permission by social workers to adopt a child, because they are jehovah's witnesses.
Hello Expatbrit,
thanks for the information!
I do like the comment about the "blood issue" .
Very logical and true.
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
P.S. To some it may sound "discrimination"
but the child's interests do come first!
question: does the watchtower society want individual witnesses expressing personal viewpoints about vital religious issues to persons whose intent is to record and document the findings?
the following letter written under the new letterhead from the societys service department documents the answer to this question.
christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses.
Hello Marvin,
thanks for the post! A very interesting
correspondence from WTS. I do agree with the comments
received...what's up next? Some cover-up action is one
the way. What are they afraid? Where is the so much
publicized " freedom of expression"? Or as usual, it
is only for some...but not "the others"??
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
P.S. Another one in the file!
it seems that someone doubted about the.
figures quoted by "expatbrrit" but look at this w.w.web page:.
key statistics .
Hello everyone,
thanks for your comments!
Do give it a greater publicity.
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
the wt has several uk entities, of which this was one.
ibsa was recently closed down.
the reports and financial statements are fairly lengthy documents.
Hello Expatbrit,
thanks again for your effort...
gone to "WT Observer"!
This topic should receive the GREATEST publicity!
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
so we can see that the early jehovah witnesses believed that jesus parousia began in 1874. the truth book states this above and it is in all the old books.
so we can see that the early jehovah witnesses believed that jesus parousia began in 1874. the truth book states this above and it is in all the old books.
this statement is coming from the organization that offered the scholarship and keeps written records of such.
Hello uncle_onion,
a very interesting reply from the
WTS branch in England.
I posted sometime ago a comment on the w. 1.4.1986 QfR
concerning "difellowshipping and apostates", and I do agree
with Alan F. statements:
"They said, "The Governing Body and those under its direction used to write the material in the publications are merely diligent Bible students. They have never claimed to be inspired or infallible, but merely published the results of their intense Bible study for the benefit of others." This is a good example of the GB's wanting to have their cake an eat it too. While the statement that they have never claimed inspiration or infallibility is technically true, in that they have never flat-out claimed such, it is entirely misleading because for all practical purposes they have indeed made such claims.
In practice, the Society declares that anyone who publicly disagrees with their teachings is an apostate. Now, according to the Society, what is an apostate? For one thing, an apostate is anyone who publicly disagrees with Society teachings, so that's not very helpful here. For another, an apostate is anyone who has abandoned God or "God's organization", so that anyone who repudiates the teachings of "God's organization" -- the JW organization under the leadership of the Governing Body -- is an apostate. In simple terms, anyone who disagrees with the teachings of the Governing Body has abandoned God and his organization and therefore is an apostate. So in practice, anyone who disagrees with the results that these "merely diligent Bible students" come up with, or with the published "results of their intense Bible study", they declare "apostate". Such "apostates" who are not JWs are shunned, and such "apostates" who are baptized JWs are disfellowshipped.
Now, according to the Society itself, disfellowshipping is a declaring that someone has unrepentantly sinned against God, and reflects not mere human judgment, but a judgment that has already been made in heaven. Thus the Society teaches that disagreeing with JW leaders is disagreeing with God -- no exceptions. The April 1, 1986 Watchtower "Questions from Readers" explicitly declares this teaching and justifies the Society's actions in disfellowshipping dissenters. It argues that, because Watchtower leaders have been put in their places by God himself, to disagree with their teaching is to disagree with God and make the dissenter an apostate."
A good proof of "double meaning talk, one for the media and the
other for the rank & file.
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
