Hello Kent,
can you tell me if you've received
the km/ November 2001?
Thanks and greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
i just got this email.
it's strange - but some people never learn :) .
i am a jehovah's witness, i am writing to tell you that there has been .
Hello Kent,
can you tell me if you've received
the km/ November 2001?
Thanks and greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
i was in a cong in n.london for 8 1/2 years (1991-99).
i may know some of you if you were ever in that area.
let me know.. my personal email is [email protected].
Hello Badwillie and wife,
I hope that after the initial shock, pain, irritation etc.etc.
you’re gradually recovering. I wish all the best to both of you,
may Jehovah and Jesus Christ grant you, the TRUE peace of mind.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
P.S. Sometime I do travel to Southern England and
have a trip to London!!
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
can anyone please tell me the latest official position of the wbts on family members who are disfellowshiped or disassociated.
(please quote wbts literature or boe letters as i don't have the latest).. why all of this?
this week i met a wonderful couple who are being shunned by their own 28 year old daughter.
Hello Bj,
The informations given to you are correct (the quotes)
About Ranchette's comment :
"JWs may get away with associating with DF'd
relatives in some liberal
congregations but officially it is a no no.
At the very least you risk your reputation in
the cong. being ruined.
You may loose priviledges also."
Very true, in many European countries.
This is a very sensitive subject, and
the elders have to be very, very careful…normally
the local Branch will not …get
involved. Simple fear of legal follow up.
Remember also the "OFFICIAL " position stated
in their own web pages!!!
And finally …everyone HAS
the right to REFUSE to give
or comment on a completely PRIVATE MATTER!!!
Please , BJ,use all these informations,
in this thread and let me know if you need
anything else.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
for immediate release .
october 30, 2001. representative of orthodox church to testify.
against jehovah's witnesses in moscow trial.
Hello Messenger,
Thanks for the informations.
Can you imagine " Paul Gillies" great help
to the case???
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
funny how a strange thought can just 'pop' into your head.. .
according to genesis, a preface to the flood was the intercourse that took place between materialised angels and human women (gen 6:2).
if the angels have no gender, why were not at least some of them tempted by human men and so materialise as women?.
Hello Nicolaou,
thanks for the interesting topic.
It raises many questions...and some will remain
without answer.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
traditional mystical teachings assert that the creation of the universe is divided into several major planes of matter or consciousness, and that man, in addition to his visible body, has interpenetrating subtle bodies which are made up from each of these planes of matter.
theories fall into two broad categories: (a) large objects which do not emit light, such as the remnants of burnt out stars, like black holes and white dwarfs, and (b) small objects which are not composed of charged particles and are therefore not visible.
presently, scientists with highly sophisticated instruments have explored distant galaxies, and have discovered and verified the existence of "dark matter".
Hello Radar,
thanks for the interesting post.
I'll print and read it during my next train trip.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
P.S. I do appreciate your research...!
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
these are tough times for the writing staff - so much.
to avoid writing about!
"but just to be safe, i'll avoid any real application of jesus'.
Hello Stephanus,
this few lines to thank you
for the link. Great point!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
these are tough times for the writing staff - so much.
to avoid writing about!
"but just to be safe, i'll avoid any real application of jesus'.
Hello Metatron,
Just to thank you for your …analysis
on one of the latest articles:
"Learn From Me" in the Dec.15, 2001 Watchtower.
And if you think I'm wrong - or exaggerating the extremes to
which the Watchtower writers will go to avoid making any real,
practical, plain, explicit, responsible application of Jesus'
love, then you'll just have to read paragraph 20 (pg.20, also)
for yourself.
(hint: use something so limited - and hypothetical
as to be worthless)
- for further information, see the "School Guidebook"
pg.175 under the heading "Conclusion shows hearers
what to do"-
A very good point…Pontius Pilate will be
very pleased with his disciple…!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
P.S. Fh,please contribute wisely or ...!
Thanks for your cooperative spirit.
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
as a tool for enabling further awareness, from within the congregations, to the activities of the organisation, in my estimation, the un letter of disassociation, needs wider publication, and distribution, certainly into the hands of individual brothers and sisters.. in thus action, much might be generated towards effective solutions in.
general public education about the machinations of the wt corporations/networks.. does anyone else see this tool (letter) as a key that can be used?.
peace.
Hello Celtic
Thanks for your post and I have to add that ,
I do like the suggestion from Outnfree:
" I plan to deliver this letter as a flyer to every Witness household I know of in my area.
Just the letter. No commentary.
I think it speaks volumes in itself and that many will be disturbed and shocked by it.
Doubts will be raised that will not easily be put back under lock and key in that Pandora's box of independent thinking kept in the remote corner of the brain of many Jehovah's Witnesses. "
Very well phrased indeed. I do agree with you.
Will you please post your suggestion to the main thread,
so that many will see it.
Thanks again, greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
P.S. Hello Hawk, I do hope that
you wish ..will come true!
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".
as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.
and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .
after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk
Hello everyone,
you should not miss this one:
" Hello Catholic Guy,
Thanks for sharing with us your friend's answers.
Quite interesting. Would you mind posting it on the main thread
i.e. " Major UN/WTBS News…" to give many more the
opportunity to read comments …!
Allaow me to dwell on Thirdson E X C E L L E N T arguments:
1) The WTS chose to associate with the UN and either lied to the UN when it agreed to support the UN charter or lied since in making excuses.
2) As for Paul, he didn't apply for Roman citizenship he inherited it. Most people are citizens by birth. JW immigrants have had problems becoming US citizens because of renouncing previous citizenship and swearing allegiance to USA.
Very logical, factual and TRUTHFUL points!!!
3) Being an associate of the UN is not necessary for the functioning of the WTS nor required for furthering the interests of God's kingdom if God is in charge.
4)The WTS associated for reasons of political expediancy (my view) and the related pressing need tax breaks and money.
Now try to dismiss, refute or discuss about this one!!!
5) As for the UN charter if there is nothing wrong with it, why does the WTS denounce the UN?
Surely, they should be supporting the UN as the interim and only means for peace and concord while awaiting God's Kingdom.
Now try to dismiss, refute or discuss about these points.
And, one must not forget that the "request" for affiliation, the affiliation status etc. etc.
has being HIDDEN to the vast majority of the " worldwide brotherhood of JW's "
for 10 long years!!! WHY if it WAS NOT MORALLY WRONG???
The last question that springs in my mind:
- WHY such an HASTY withdrawal, retreat, within 48 hours from the matter beeing
made PUBLIC by a WORDLY source??? WHY, WHY, WHY???
Finally a great point also from CornerStone :
"… THEY KNOW they would have ANYBODY disfellowshipped who publicly acknowledged their support of the United Nations and its charter!
I believe the borg masters have such hate, such contempt for the R&F. This is why they keep actions like their UN involvement a secret because they don't TRUST their flock to follow them."
It is a very sad fact, that we'll never receive sincere and truthful answers from the WTBS
on such questions.
Greetings , J.C.MacHislopp
P.S. This will be posted on the main thread.
I do believe that such an exchange of well
thought and worded comments, should be read
by a great number of visitors.
" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".