as the time passes , the wtbs inc. did ...slowly but steadily decline the use of the expression .. the increase is a proof of jehovahs blessing on his people..!.
now, in the year 2002 it has surfaced again, .
publishers for 1972 i.e.
Hello everyone,
you might be interested in this one.
It has still to do with this topic and it is a very
interesting study:
http://lsb.scu.edu/econrel/Downloads/JWGrow-O.pdf
(Thanks to Slipnslide.. Waiting and Herbert ).
RunningMan: thanks for the update. Very useful
indeed, I'm sure that many here will appreciate it.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
may 26, 2002 sunday talk at kingdom hall .
i went to the talk today.
my first time in the last ten years.
Hello Lady Lee,
thanks for the ..information.
This part sounds ..new.
<<The weeds are Christendom and the wheat of course are all those anointed followers of Jehovah. The seed that is scattered is the truth and it is scattered to find more of the anointed.>>
Now does this make sense to you. If all the anointed have been gathered - cause after all it is the end - then why on earth would they be out looking for more of them.
<<How wonderful a blessing that we can share in this work of harvesting the anointed ones>>
Is this new light?"
Maybe you are right, after all they did mention
in "The Watchtower " January 15, 2000 page 13
and § 18 : " Sixth , the number of genuine anointed
disciples of Christ is dwindling, though some will
evidently still be on earth when the great tribulation
begins."
Then, after your post I do wonder if they are
looking for..them!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
the dialectizer .
http://rinkworks.com/dialect/.
proteck yer chillun!
Hello Blondie,
thanks for digging this one up!
Quite interesting too. Btw I would like to
thanks you for the interesting and prompt
answer you do give to the posts, including your
excellent researches.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
as the time passes , the wtbs inc. did ...slowly but steadily decline the use of the expression .. the increase is a proof of jehovahs blessing on his people..!.
now, in the year 2002 it has surfaced again, .
publishers for 1972 i.e.
Hello everyone,
thanks for adding your interestiung comments and quotes.
Ozziepost: it's nice to have you ...commenting.
Somebody: thanks for your pertinent comments and
also for the ...contradictings quotes.
I'm going to use them this week.
Gems..as usual.
Iarc: .." the new 15 minute rule regarding field service is an attempt to prop up the numbers."
Surely, it will make the trick...but for how long?
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
is it wrong for me to do the following?.
sometimes i receive email from short-sighted persons who thinks i am the watchtower society, (presumably because of my website).
they are usually looking for information like kh location or information they need to prepare next tuesday's talk no.
Hello Quotes,
thanks for this post. Excellent to the e-mail.
Btw, I would like to take this occasion to thanks
your for the tremendous and great work on your site
concerning the WTBS Inc. quotes.
A great tool indeed.I'm sure that it is really
appreciated ...worldwide.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
it's a long read but it's very interesting.
i think pretty objective too.
i liked the statistics compared to the census and polling data.
Hello everyone,
thanks for this - interesting -study!
What I do find a bit.... it's the conclusion
with the projestion for the future...!
Can you imagine...16,20,30 millions???
But the " eyes " will ever be opened??
Also very interesting the part about
proselitism in the Islamic countries!
And what about the great nation of China??
Well, a nice piece of excellent work to keep for
future reference.
Thanks again..Waiting and Slipandslidemaster.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
as the time passes , the wtbs inc. did ...slowly but steadily decline the use of the expression .. the increase is a proof of jehovahs blessing on his people..!.
now, in the year 2002 it has surfaced again, .
publishers for 1972 i.e.
Hello Grunt,
thanks for the comment.
I dp remember the data. I did actually out them on a file.
I did personally give the count the number of "anointed"
with the ..." additions"...so you could easily see the problem
would be a ..never ending one (for the WTBS Inc.).
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
has anybody here, had a look at the "online friends message board".
http://jwstartpage.homestead.com/discussion.html.
what a prime example this is, of the total control syndrome operated by the wbts and fostered among its adherents.. .
Hello Spero,
nice to have you here!
Thanks for your interesting information...
I wonder who can possibly enjoy an interchange
of ideas, opinions and informations under such
"strange" and " restrictive" rules.
Btw, your "name" sounds ...very - hopefull -,
greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
as the time passes , the wtbs inc. did ...slowly but steadily decline the use of the expression .. the increase is a proof of jehovahs blessing on his people..!.
now, in the year 2002 it has surfaced again, .
publishers for 1972 i.e.
Hello Everyone,
thanks for the comments.
From Nicoloau :
« And when you subtract the JWs that are there for appearance sake, who are there to maintain their families intact but who no longer believe, who are 15-minute ministers, the numbers become even more paltry. The society attempts to make a silk purse from a sow's ear. »
Great and really nicely worded. So now, what’s lefts really ?
From OldHippie :
« So there is no mystery about these figures, it's just plain demography and statistics. As to some other figures, there are mysteries, I'll try to calculate those ones later. »
Thanks for you precise comments. Please remember that some of my quetions are..
rethorical...just for those who wish to justify avery action of the WTBS Inc.
Your points are correct. Btw, sometimes trhey did quote « 35,000, 40,000 .. »
and even more disfellowshipped every year but they added that sometimes
30-50% of them are reintegrated !!
I’m eagerly waiting ...for your calculations. Thanks.
Perry, thanks for the comments.
« ...whose sole shepherding tool for healing those in need is cold "do more" counsel or disfellowshipment so that they don't have deal with the problems. »
It looks like ..the only reason that the « Elders « are left there, and from what we hear,
it’s a worldwide problem.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
as the time passes , the wtbs inc. did ...slowly but steadily decline the use of the expression .. the increase is a proof of jehovahs blessing on his people..!.
now, in the year 2002 it has surfaced again, .
publishers for 1972 i.e.
Hello again,
thanks for your comments.
From Dmouse
'Of course, the number of those associated with Jehovah’s Witnesses is not a criterion for determining if they enjoy divine favor.'
Very interesting, and I do think that this one proves the point:
continually contradicting past and even future statements.
From Iarc :
I do agree with you. As a matter of fact I aslo left out the ...dead ones
(unknown % ...0.3, 0.2 % par year), those who have “ dissociated”
themeselves, those who have been “disfellowshipped “every year
by the WTBS Inc, those who have been and clearly are ..”.inactives”!
My added point is, to give arel meaning to all the figures, for which I
could go back many and many years more, why the WTBS Inc., doesn’t
give the all picture, ...black and white for everyone to see. After all
it is the WTBS Inc., who wrote in the 1971 ‘ Theocratic School
Guide ‘ book:
*** sg 110 21 Informative Material, Clearly Presented ***
9 Accuracy of statement. Jehovah’s witnesses are an organization of truth.
We should want to speak the truth and be absolutely accurate in every detail at all times.
This should be so not only as regards doctrine but also in our quotations, what we say about others or how we represent them, also in matters involving scientific data or news events."
Do they a^pply it to themselves??
From SaintSatan:
“Well you see mac, jehovah is sifting the nations, so to speak. He has his net out. It catches all kinds of fish. Those millions are the undesirable fish that he threw back. The weeds, goats, evil slave etc. Although there is a bit of a problem w that allegory since 1995. In 1995, the wt said that the sheep and goats are not to be separated until the trib.”
Please try to be more clear in your point, what are you really..saying?
From Bodhisattva
“No one beats the Watchtower in playing with numbers.”
I do agree with you on this one, 100% !
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
