Hello Metatron,
thanks for the comments!
I do like the end:
"Because it hasn't been
TRUE for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS!"
Just concise, true, logical ...brilliant!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
once upon a time, a cartoon appeared showing a young man holding a sign that said.
"the end is near!
" while talking to a person on the street.. the caption read "it's a good business, i inherited it from my grandfather!".
Hello Metatron,
thanks for the comments!
I do like the end:
"Because it hasn't been
TRUE for ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS!"
Just concise, true, logical ...brilliant!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
you're in front of 3 elders and are being asked all types of questions.
you are afraid that you might get disfellowshipped.
the elders tell you that you must speak the truth, since jehovah hears all and since jehovah hates a liar.
Hello everyone,
Thanks for the topic. Please allow me few words.
Your interesting , logical, factual accounts about
the "JC" gives, together with the direct testimonies
of some " v i c t i m e s " the true picture of the
essence of all "JC" i.e.
- basically no desire, no application, not even the
slightest apoproach or imitation of Jesus Christ
attitude toward " s i n n e r s ". He had LOVE,LOVE
and LOVE, all the "JC"s have - from the WTBS Inc.
rules...rules and finally rules.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
the hypocrisy of the wts knows no bounds
most jws would say, "but we have faith in jehovah, jesus and the bible, not in men.
" yet in many places the wts does demand jws to have faith.
Hello Blondie,
a very nice and well supported topic.Plenty of material.
Just a quick comment on this part:
" 1972 Yearbook ", page 170
"Sad as this may seem, it brought faith in the organization
and opened the way for the free flow of Jehovahs spirit"
**What about the tens of thousands "kicked out" from
'God's Organisation ' since 1972? Have they really
"brought faith in the organization and opened the way
for the free flow of Jehovahs spirit"???
If the WTBS Inc. answers YES, then we would like to
know where are the 2.8 millions () baptized since
1972, that have not INCREASED the r&f of the
Jehovah's Witnesses???
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
() I'll give the correct, total number of
baptized JWs since 1972 until 2002.
*** w88 1/1 11 the last days-a time of harvest *** .
john, in another vision, sees the sealing of the final ones of the 144,000.
(revelation 7:1-8) evidently, the gathering of these was virtually complete by 1935. .
Hello back2dafront,
thanks for your topic. Btw, you could also read the quotes in
my post " The never ending saga of the anointed..."
To give you another exemple of ...illogical statement
take this one:
"The Watchtower " June 1st, 1959 page 352, QfR
at the end of the 3rd paragraph - before the end of the
article - we can read:
"The particular assembling of the remnant class continued
on until 1931, in fulfillment of Matthew 24:31. By then a full
remnant were gathered to Har-Magedon"
Please notice that
*** It was written almost 43 years ago;
***That a "full remnant were gathered" already in 1931.
***In 1959, they had a different view/opinion/truth
So, you can see, the WTBS Inc., wrote, and continues to
write anything, any nonsense, any men's idea/opinion/view
and gives it to the R&F as if it was "coming from god"()
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
() See my last topic about "Understanding..."
speaking with those who are df'd or da'd would you, could you, begin associating with your jw family and friends?
not that i believe they will, but i was thinking "what if" they did.
i wonder if one's jw family realizes how much damage is done to a relationship when they choose their "religion" over their family?
Hello everyone,
these few words to about minimus' comment,
the great part, imho :
"...when the Society reversed this way of treating unbaptized ones,
"loyal" Witnesses began to embrace these ones, like nothing ever
happened to begin with. So, if the Society suddenly changed their rules,
the loyal rank-and-file would simply marvel about how Jehovah is
such a loving, wonderful God."
Isn't very sad to admit that it really happened in such a way?
FiveShadows: I'm also of the same opinion. Many...really
are there just because of this "shunning's WTBS Inc.
rule and its implication. Were it to cease...well you can
imagine the results!!!
RoyBatty: You point is very clear. Personally if a "rule/ counsel/
idea/opinion/doctrine/view is not clearly stated in the Bible and even
goes against the " golden rule" and the 2 basic commands,
I don't apply, never mind what the receivers of revelations() say or
write.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
() See my new topic
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
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in these times of fast changeswe should always be on
the watch for surprises.
please, take a look at this wtbs inc. statement published recently in :
Hello again,
Just few more words.
LHD : Thanks for your comment.
Its true what part really they do play
In the eartly administration those
8760 anointed men and women
minus all the .GB because
only the members of the GB have
a real power !
Did I write something wrong?
Yes who are those at the driving
seat in the mighty WTBS s Corporations
all over the world?
Didnt we read many, many times that
Jesus Christ is the Head of the Congregation?
But with all these money- lovers (elders),
child-abusing (elders, liars (elders), hypocrites
(elders) , idol worshippers and spiritual fornicators
-with the United Nations - (elders/anointed)
who is doing Gods revealed will among
all of them today???
Finally, to go back on refiners fires comment,
those who are partaking, according to the Scriptures are decla ring openly to be joint heirs with Christ.
Theyll rule with Him in the Heaven
they ll judge nations, Kings..
they will judge the powerful ones...
they'll judge todays mighty ones...
and yet they dont c ou n t at a l l in the mighty WTBS Inc. world wide Corporations !!!
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
in these times of fast changeswe should always be on
the watch for surprises.
please, take a look at this wtbs inc. statement published recently in :
Hello again,
just to correct a thing:
in the first quote read
" The Watchtower" August 1 st , 2001 page 14,
paragraph 8 "
Thanks.
J.C.MacHislopp
in these times of fast changeswe should always be on
the watch for surprises.
please, take a look at this wtbs inc. statement published recently in :
Hello everyone,
In these times of fast changeswe should always be on
the watch for surprises.
Please, take a look at this WTBS Inc. statement published recently in :
The Watchtower August 1 st , 2001 page 14 8
concerning a mature Christian:
He does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or
harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding.
Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is
revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, andthe faithful and discreet slave . By regularly taking in thespiritual food provided at the proper time - through Christian publications, meetings, assemblies, and conventions- we can be sure that we maintain oness in the faith with fellow Christians in faith and knowledge.-
Matthew 24:45
Now, after reading it, please compare with this one,
published only16 months later:
The Watchtower 1 st December 2002 page 22, par. 15
This points to the importance of keeping up with our
understanding of the truth as revealed by Jehovah
through his Word and through the faithful and discreet
slave class. Regular personal study of the Bible and Bi-
ble based publications vital to maintenance of our spiri-
tual armor. Matthew 24:45-47; Ephesians 6:14-15.
Have you noticed it?
a) Who is missing in all this process of understanding the TRUTH???
Of course you have noticed itno one else but ..the Son
of God, Jesus Christ himself !!!
b) Who is always there???
Yesyou know it already the faithful and discreet slave
c) We are informed that in the year 2002, Jehovah is
still making revelations. Then then apostle John, yes
the writer of Revelation was not the last one to
receive revelations.
I wonder why all this, then I did remember something written quite sometime ago, in
The Watchtower June 15 th , 1957 page 370, last
part of 7. There the WTBS Inc. reminded us that:
It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the
directions of the slave as we would to the voice of God,
because it is His provision.
Finally I did understand who on earth needs Jesus Christ?
We have an immense, greater privilege : the s l a v e which has been put on the same level as the voice of God!
I do hope that all this was not too much...
Greetings,
J.C. MacHislopp
my sympathies go out to the families of those lost in the shuttle explosion.. .
but you think with all the billions the society has they would have a message of comfort for these people.. .
a full page ad in the paper, a short spot on the telly.
Hello RR,
sorry for the extremely sad news...but this tragic things
do happen without notice. Btw, about the attitute of the
WTBS Inc., they.. didn't move for those beheaded in the
Filippines and all those who are still captive. Yet they have
the possibility, the money...it is quite simple:
they don't care it is not their own life .
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
as on an earlier post, an interview with jr brown:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=43356&site=3.
when jr was asked, is yours the only path to salvation?
Hello WilliamPennwell,
thanks for the information.
As you have noticed the vast majority in this board, at lest knows
the answer to the Question : Is JR Brown a liar ?
Yes, yes, yes he is also one of the biggest public liar.
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp