Posts by MacHislopp

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A Message to Jehovah's Witnesses (in a new media format)

by DT in

http://www.slideshare.net/deeeteee/a-message-to-jehovahs-witnesses.

it's just a basic slideshow presentation, but i think it might be the first slideshow on slideshare about jehovah's witnesses.

i got the idea from the recent threads about the do not call list.

MacHislopp

Hello DT,

Well done. Well written, polite, and without a smoky screen...firmly but

explicative. It is a file in my archives, for future use and I do hope,

many times.

Thanks again,

J.C. MacHislopp

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Jehovah and Jesus ....supervisors!

by MacHislopp in

i could not resist to comment on this:.

the following statement was published by the society, as part of the the weekly watchtower study, to be considered in the week of 18th-24th february 2008 , the watchtower january 15th , 2008 pages 11-12 16. if you feel that you are not as skilled at teaching as you would like to be, take heart.

jehovah and jesus are supervising the educational programm that is being carried out worldwide today.

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

Following the Society's line of reasoning, Jehovah and Jesus were also supervising
this modification, made to the " worldwide educational programm" :

For many years it was published until October 1995:

Awake! October 22nd , 1995 page 2
Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away.

Then …in the same year , just few weeks later the Creator’s promise, i.e. Jehovah God, the Almighty …changed into:

Awake! November 8th , 1995 page 2
Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world that is about to replace the present wicked, lawless system of things.

When considering the " worldwide educational programm" , made avalaible by the Society,
one should never forget claims like this one:

*** w73 7/1 402 § 4 Praise Jehovah with His People ***

4 Consider, too, the fact that Jehovah’s organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by God’s holy spirit or active force. (Zech. 4:6) Only this organization functions for Jehovah’s purpose and to his praise. To it alone God’s Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book.

So why should the Society be ...uneasy to be at the receving end of a very
close scrutiny ?

Greetings,

J.C.MacHislopp

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Jehovah and Jesus ....supervisors!

by MacHislopp in

i could not resist to comment on this:.

the following statement was published by the society, as part of the the weekly watchtower study, to be considered in the week of 18th-24th february 2008 , the watchtower january 15th , 2008 pages 11-12 16. if you feel that you are not as skilled at teaching as you would like to be, take heart.

jehovah and jesus are supervising the educational programm that is being carried out worldwide today.

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

right on target....bull's eyes Yesidid. You u stated in a nut shell,

the point that I was making, by giving all the quotes following their latest...

shot on the foot., published on the Watchtower 15th January 2008 .

Thanks again for taking your time ... I'll came back later with more!

Greetings,

J.C.MacHislopp

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Jehovah and Jesus ....supervisors!

by MacHislopp in

i could not resist to comment on this:.

the following statement was published by the society, as part of the the weekly watchtower study, to be considered in the week of 18th-24th february 2008 , the watchtower january 15th , 2008 pages 11-12 16. if you feel that you are not as skilled at teaching as you would like to be, take heart.

jehovah and jesus are supervising the educational programm that is being carried out worldwide today.

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

I could not resist to comment on this:

The following statement was published by the Society, as part of the the weekly Watchtower Study, to be considered in the week of 18th-24th February 2008 , ‘ The Watchtower’ January 15th , 2008 pages 11-12 § 16
“ If you feel that you are not as skilled at teaching as you would like to be, take heart. Jehovah and Jesus are supervising the educational programm that is being carried out worldwide today. (Acts 1:7,8; Rev. 14:6)

Let’s give a glance to the supporting scriptures:

(Acts 1:7-8) He said to them: “It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction; 8 but YOU will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon YOU, and YOU will be witnesses of me both in Jerusalem and in all Ju·de´a and Sa·mar´i·a and to the most distant part of the earth.”

(Revelation 14:6) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people,

It is clear that God’s holy spirit will be given, a witness will be given and an everlasting good news will be ‘ declared ‘ as glad tidings.

According to the above mentioned article Jehovah and Jesus supervise the educational (teaching ) programm which is being carried out worldwide by the Society.
Furthermore the Society declared that:

3 Jehovah is the God of truth. (Psalm 31:5) His Word, the Bible, is a book of truth. (John 17:17) Honesthearted people respond to truth. (Compare John 4:23, 24.) One reason that TheWatchtower and Awake! have touched the hearts of millions of readers is that they are journals of integrity and truth. In fact, it was over the issue of loyalty to Bible truth that TheWatchtower began to be published."
(w 94 1/1 page 20 § 3)

As a result, this would make Jehovah and Jesus responsible for ALL the Society’s teachings since 1879.

Just to be more specific and to give an example , let’s take some quotes from the Society’s public worldwide teaching given on the blood issue, for the last 68 years:
Jehovah and Jesus …supervised the following:

“ …the issue over blood began to arise in particularly after 1937…Is it in harmony with God’s Word? A prayerful examination of the Scriptures was made , revealing God’s will in the matter “ (w 72 8/15 page . 502)

“ Nor are they going to feel that a slight infraction , such as a momentary storage of blood in a syringe when it is drawn from one part of the body for injection into another part , is something less objectionable than storing it for a longer period of time.” (Blood ,Medicine and the Law of God , 1961 page 15)

“But regardless of whether is is whole blood or a blood fraction, whether is blood taken from one’s own body or that taken from someone else , whether it is administered as a transfusion or as aninjection , the divine law applies.” (w 61 9/15 page 557 § 19)

“Although Jehovah’s Witnesses will not eat blood as a food , nor in medical use consent to any kind of blood transfusion or, in place of it, an infusion of any blood fraction or blood substance , this does not rule out all medical treatment.” (Blood ,Medicine and the Law of God , 1961 page 39)

“ They are being taught by God” ( w 72 8/15 page 501)

“…many a person might decline blood simply because it is essentially an organ transplant that at best is only partially compatible with his own blood.” (Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Question of Blood 1977, page 41 §111)

“As cardiovascular surgeon Denton Cooley notes :” A blood transusion is an organ transplant … I think that there are certain
incompatibilities in almost all blood transfusions.” (g 90 10/22
pages 8-9 )

“When doctors transplant a heart, a liver, or another organ, the recepient’s immune system may sense the foreign tissue and
reject it. Yet, a transfusion is a tissue transplant. “ ( hb How can blood save your life…1990 , page 8)

“The Witnesses do not feel that the Bible comments directly on organ transplants; hence, decisions regarding cornea, kidney, or other tissue transplants must be made by the individual Witness. “
(hb How can blood save your life…1990 , page 28)

“The stand of the Witnesses respecting the sanctity of blood is a doctrinal belief rather than an ethical viewpoint subject to periodic review, he was told.” (w 97 2/15 page 20 )

“ Blood is an organ of the body, and blood transfusion is nothing less
than an organ transplant.” ( g 99 8/22 page 31)

*** w00 6/15 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***
“The Bible directs Christians to ‘abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from fornication.’ (Acts 15:29) Beyond that, when it comes to fractions of any of the primary components, each Christian, after careful and prayerful meditation, must conscientiously decide for himself.” ‘ w00 6/15 page 31 Questions From Readers )

To finish what about “.. the time of the end “ issue?

Jehovah and Jesus …supervised the following:

*w 1950 1/15 22 Who Will Share in the Final Witness? ***

”…God's Word says that "it all happened to them by way of warning for others, and it was written down for the purpose of instructing us whose lot has been cast in the closing hours of the world". (1 Cor. 10:11, Moffatt) 3

**w 1950 8/1 p. 227 Serving with the Servant ***
Such Kingdom interests must be guarded, watched and increased amid the turbulence of this world's closing years. Nor would any human or demon attraction or the confused events occurring in these fateful days succeed in diverting the faithful stewards from their service.

*w 1958 8/1 464 Calling the Members of the Kingdom of Heaven ***
If any of the remnant now in attendance at the room for the wedding ceremonies fall out for failure to keep on the wedding garment, others will be brought in by the King to take their places. Seeing that we are now in the closing years of this present system of things, that process may be about completed.

*w 1968 8/15/1968 pages 499-501
This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that 'concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.' To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. ".

*1971 book "The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah"-How? * *** kj 216-7 12 "Until He Comes Who Has the Legal Right" **
JEHOVAH?S ?SWORD? AGAINST ?ALL THOSE OF FLESH?

9 Shortly, within our twentieth century, the ‘ battle in the day of Jehovah’ will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom. “.

*w 1971 9/15 570-1 God Wisely Selects Earth's Rulers ***

World conditions in fulfillment of prophecy indicate that we are in the closing days of this gathering, called the "harvest." With its completion and the destruction of the present wicked system and its administration, Christ and his associate kings and priests will begin the thousand-year reign for the blessing of mankind.-Matt. 13:37-40; Rev. 11:18; 19:19-21; 20:1-4, 6.

*g 1973 11/8 p. 6 Why You Should Be Concerned ***
Why? Because in so many areas human failure is not just a 'passing phase. It is direct evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy showing that we are living in the closing years of this wicked system of things.

*w 1993 4/1 p. 18 Who Are Following the Light of the World? ***
Urgent to Follow the Light
19 Now, in the final years of this evil system, it is urgent to follow the light of the world. And we need to be on guard, for there is an intense war being waged to keep us from walking in the light.

*w 1994 4/15 p. 10 Helpful Teaching for Our Critical Times ***

The events of this 20th century overwhelmingly prove that we are now living in the conclusion of this present wicked system.

*w 1994 9/1 p. 13 Despite Being Made of Dust, Push Ahead! **

20 Now, during the concluding years of Satan's world system, is not the time to slow down-not as far as Kingdom preaching is concerned and not as far as developing more fully the fruitage of God's spirit is concerned. «

*w 1997 8/15 p. 22 "Soundness of Mind" as the End Draws Close ***
21 How much time is left remaining we do not know. Yet, we can say with confidence that "the end of all things has drawn close." Until that end comes, let us live with "soundness of mind" in our dealings with one another, in the way we care for our families, and in our secular responsibilities

*w 1998 1/1 p. 11 Do Not Give Up in the Race for Life! ***
20 Today, we know that another great "day of Jehovah" will soon affect this whole system of things. (Joel 3:12-14) We do not know when that day will come. But God's Word assures us that come it will! Jehovah says it will not be late. (Habakkuk 2:3; 2 Peter 3:9, 10)

*w 1998 9/15 p. 13 Times and Seasons in Jehovah's Hands ***
We too are convinced that our deliverance from the present wicked system of things is approaching. We know that we are living in "the last days." (2 Timothy 3:1-5)

*w 1998 8/15 19 Strengthening Our Confidence in God's Righteousness

In the near future, the greatest time of tribulation ever to strike the human race will break forth suddenly. (Matthew 24:21

*w 1998 9/15 pp. 18-19 Waiting in "Eager Expectation" ***
Their faith does not need to be propped up by time calculations. They keep busy in Jehovah's service, providing a wonderful example for their companions, the "other sheep." (John 10:16) These anointed ones know that this wicked system's end is near, and they heed Peter's exhortation: "Brace up your minds for activity, keep your senses completely; set your hope upon the undeserved kindness that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ."-1 Peter 1:13.

*w 1999 4/1 p. 19 Life After Death-What Does the Bible Say? ***
21 The fulfillment of Bible prophecy shows that we are living in "the last days" of this system of things. (2 Timothy 3:1) Very soon now, Jehovah God is going to intervene in human affairs and wipe out wickedness from the earth."

*w 2000 12/1 p. 18 Do You Love Jehovah's Reminders Exceedingly? **
Since we are living deep in the last days of this wicked system of things, let us keep praying for divine help so that we can continue to observe Jehovah's reminders and thus 'keep on guard according to his word.'-Psalm 119:9."

*w 2001 3/1 p. 21 Salvation for Those Who Choose the Light ***

This is especially true in view of the nearness of the end of this system of things when survival will depend on obedience.-Zephaniah 2:3.

*w 2001 5/15 p. 12 Praise Jehovah for His Great Deeds! ***
To shine forth in giving a final witness before Jehovah brings an end to Satan's wicked system of things in the rapidly approaching "great tribulation."-Matthew 24:21; Daniel 12:3; Revelation 7:14.

*w 2001 6/15 p. 12 Look After Orphans and Widows in Their Tribulation ***
As the end of the present system of things gets closer, the pressures that Christians in general face are certain to increase. (Matthew 24:9-13)

*w 2001 8/15 p. 28 Do Not Give Up in Doing What Is Fine ***
Faith in the Things Unseen
11 Another trial may involve the seeming delay of the end of this wicked system of things. According to 2 Peter 3:12, Christians are to be "awaiting and keeping close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah." However, many have awaited this "day" for years, some for decades. As a result, some may become discouraged and lose their sense of urgency.

*w 2001 8/15 p. 32 Certificate of Excellence ***
Each issue of Awake! "stays politically neutral and does not exalt one race above another." Additionally, the publications build "confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure world that is about to replace the present wicked, lawless system of things."

*w 2001 11/15 p. 12 Jehovah Shows Us How to Count Our Days ***
« Yes, our life is as transitory as grass that withers in a single day. Therefore, let us not waste this precious commodity. Instead, we should seek God's guidance on how we ought to use our remaining years in this system of things. «

*w 2001 11/15 p. 31 Noah's Faith Condemns the World ***
« Like Noah, true Christians today know that Jehovah will soon bring an end to this godless system of things. We do not know that day or hour, but we realize that imitating the faith and obedience of this "preacher of righteousness" will result in "the preserving alive of the soul."-Hebrews 10:36-39.".-

*2003 km March 2003 page 6 , paragraph 25 subheading: "Take full advantage of the time remaining "
Today all the evidence indicates that the end of the present global system of things is at end. Day by day our pattern of life should reflect that conviction. As zealous servants of Jehovah, we should be focused on the urgent work of declaring the good news.- Titus 2:13,14 ."

*yb 2003 " A Letter from the Governing Body " page 5, paragraph 1 :
"We face similar situation today. As we approach the destruction of this wicked system, we expect increased opposition. Satan is filled with "great anger", and that anger is especially directed against those who serve God (Rev.12:12) "

*w 2003 September 15th 2003 p.25
Unfulfilled expectation are bound to lead to disappointments that make the heart sick. This happens in everyday life. However, this is not the case with the expectations that are solidly based on god?s Word. We can have complete confidence that they will be fulfilled. Even apparent delays are less likely to be disappointing. For example, we know that God?s new world is imminent. (2 Peter 3;13)

*w 2003 December 1st, page 13 § 17 « Yes, we can confidently
look forward to the time-now so near- when Jehovah will eradicate from the earth all the corruption and those who are responsible for it ».

*w 2003 December 1st, page 13 § 18 « Just a little while longer
and the wicked one will be no more ; and you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be »(Psalm 37 :10) How these words encourage us as we approach the end of this system of things and the culmination of disastrous independence from Jehovah !

*w 2003 December 15th, 2003 page 15 §§7- 8, 21

Our Watchfulness Takes On Greater Urgency
7 Noah received the warning of the upcoming catastrophe decades in advance, and he wisely used the time to prepare for survival. ?After being given divine warning of things not yet beheld.? Says the apostle Paul, ?[Noah] showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the salvation of his household.? (Hebrews 11:7) What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in ‘the time of the end.’ (Daniel 12:4)

21Although the Flood seems remote from our day, it clearly provides a warning that we must not ignore?. »

°°°°°

Well, I hope that it wasn’t a boring…journey.

Greeting,

J.C. MacHislopp

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Wikipedia article on the GB falsely claims the GB has existed since 1884

by neverendingjourney in

i'm currently in the process of reading crisis of conscience.

in it, franz meticulously goes about debunking the notion that the wtbts has always had a governing body.

in fact, through a variety of documents, and using the society's own literature, he shows that the watchtower's board of directors was powerless.

MacHislopp

Hello neverendingjourney,

thanks for your kind words. You're right

"most witnesses have no idea how key doctrinal and policy decision are made at headquarters. "

and also :

" the vast majority of Jehovah's Witnesses have no idea that the Watchtower's governing body narrative is simply not true. "

Furthermore, not only the R&F but also eleders, circuit overseers and even ...D.O.
are ignorant of the following information concerning the days when the president
brother C.T. Russell and his...wife had all the ...powers (most of the money).

This fact is blatantly ignored in an article published on " The Watchtower"
November 1st, 2007 page 17 § 3 where it is written:

" In 1879 when the faithful and discreet slave class began publishing this journal,
then called Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence it contained..."

What is not revealed is the truth about that time, written in an extra edition of
"The Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence" " volume XV, NO 8, published
on April 25th , 1894, with C.T. Russell as Editor.

page Ref. 3 H 132 § 4 and 5 it is written:
'The object in taking out a charter is succinctly stated in the Watch Tower for
January 1891, page 16 as follows:

'This is a business association merely.

....It has no creed or confession. It is a merely business convenience in
disseminting the truth.

...The affairs of the Society are so arranged that is entire control rests in the care
of Brother and Sister Russell as long as they shall live."

So much for the existence of a 'governing body ' or a ' faithful and discreet slave class '!!!

I hope you'll like the above. I do have many more.

Greetings

J.C. MacHislopp

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Wikipedia article on the GB falsely claims the GB has existed since 1884

by neverendingjourney in

i'm currently in the process of reading crisis of conscience.

in it, franz meticulously goes about debunking the notion that the wtbts has always had a governing body.

in fact, through a variety of documents, and using the society's own literature, he shows that the watchtower's board of directors was powerless.

MacHislopp

Hello neverendingjourney

I do repost some informations that are iun my

archives and I do believe believe that you'll find

them useful

From the book

" RICHES " by J.F. Rutherford (publishers WTBS in 1936)

show ...where the WTBS ...got
the idea of the “governing body”.

Let’s start with page 80:

" The Roman Catholic Hierarchy , the governing body, together with the clergy of the other denominations, claims to be the representatives of God and the ones to whom the right is delegated to proclaim his Word."

"…The Roman Catholic Hierarchy , that governing religious-political body , has misled and greatly deceive millions of honest persons."

Then let’s continue on pages 228-229:

"The Roman Catholic Hierarchy is defined in its own pubblications as follows :" The Catholic Hierarchy, or the governing body of the Catholic Church, consists of His Holiness the Supreme Pontiff, assisted by the SacredCollege of Cardinals and by several Sacred Congregations, or permanent ecclesiastical committee,of which the Cardinals are the chief members; by the Patriarchs, Archibishops and Bishops; by the ApostolicNuncios and Delegates, Vicars and Prefects, and by certain Abbots and other Prelates."

YET, a few years later – as the following Watchtower article states, what a change!!!

*** w71 12/15 755 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation ***

”The official magazine of Jehovah’s Christian witnesses is The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom.

In the year 1944 the Watchtower magazine began to speak about the governing body of the Christian congregation.”

*** w71 12/15 757 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation ***

GOVERNING BODY

“According to the apostolic example of the first century C.E., these dedicated, baptized Christians known today as Jehovah’s witnesses have a governing body, as specifically noted from the year 1944 onward. “

*** w54 3/15 163-4 Aid to Understanding ***

Jehovah uses a visible organization, entrusts the Biblical truths to it, and expects it to abide by and clarify these truths to others. Many religious organizations today claim to be this visible organization of God, but by their fruits they show they are not. All along there have been such false pretenders, who have been exposed by faithful priests and prophets before the time of Christ, by Jesus when he came and by his apostles afterward, and by his footstep followers even to our day.
Today the facts of the past few decades show Jehovah has been and is using the Watch Tower Society and Jehovah’s witnesses as a teaching organization, anointed witnesses who make up the promised “faithful and discreet slave” appointed to give spiritual “food at the proper time.”

So can we ask what facts are they?

As we stated earlier, anyone who makes the claim that they are Jehovah’s channel has to be able to prove it. So how has the society “proved” that Jehovah is using them?

Not one of their predictions has proved true. Not one.

In light of all the forgoing, how can this statement be made in good conscience by the Faithful and Discreet Slave?"

*** w59 5/1 269
Attain Completeness in the New World Society

7 To hold to the headship of Christ, it is therefore necessary to obey the organization that he is personally directing. Doing what the organization says is to do what he says. Resisting the organization is to resist him."

*** w72 4/1 197 'They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them' ***
This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian witnesses... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a "prophet" of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record.

They had ...confused the dates.. about the « governing body «

*** w90 3/15 14 'The Faithful Slave' and Its Governing Body ***

21 In 1918, when Jesus Christ inspected those claiming to be his slaves, he found an international group of Christians publishing Bible truths for use both inside the congregation and outside in the preaching work. In 1919 it truly turned out to be as Christ had foretold: “Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings.” (Matthew 24:46, 47) These true Christians entered into the joy of their Master. Having shown themselves “faithful over a few things,” they were appointed by the Master to be “over many things.” (Matthew 25:21) The faithful slave and its Governing Body were in place, ready for a widened assignment.”

But, never mind they are modest...

.

w.1.06.1997 p.14--“Modesty on the part of the faithful and discreet slave class prevents it from presumptuously running ahead and wildly speculating about things that are unclear. The slave class strives to avoid being dogmatic. How reassuring it is to know that the channel Jehovah is using today does not do so! It is both faithful and discreet. "

and give alook at these:

*** w65 6/1 352 Questions from Readers ***

In 1938 Jehovah revealed this correspondency to his servants and it was published in The Watchtower in a two-part article entitled “Organization.” (°)
This appeared in the issues of June 1 and 15 and proved conclusively that Jehovah’s organization must henceforth be guided and directed by Jehovah’s spirit through the visible governing body made up of those servants whom Jehovah himself would appoint. The concluding paragraph in this series stated: “Jehovah’s theocratic government is now in full control of the people of God.”

(°) w 1.6.1938 Organisation part I; w 15.06.1938 Organisation part II;

with this:

*** w71 12/15 757 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation

GOVERNING BODY

According to the apostolic example of the first century C.E., these dedicated, baptized Christians known today as Jehovah’s witnesses have a governing body, as specifically noted from the year 1944 onward.

and this:

*** w71 12/15 760 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation

HOW THE GOVERNING BODY CAME TO EXIST
According to the facts available, the governing body became associated with the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. C. T. Russell was patently of that governing body back there in the last quarter of the nineteenth century.

I do hope that most of you will find this interesting, although
I do believe that 99% of the R&F, don’t know anything about thismatter...like many other things.

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

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WT Comments Goes Where No Watchtower Has Gone Before...

by V in

this week an unbelieving mate and non-jw will be the first, as such, to ever conduct the watchtower study.

stay tuned!.

also newly released, the video version for the study edition beginning 11 february.

MacHislopp

Hello V and all the others

...who worked hard on this tpoic!

This is really great, niot only it adds visual and auditive dimensions

but is pleasant to watch, and with plenty of good counter-arguments too.

Thanks again.

J.C. MacHislopp

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Your Faith Dead or Alive

by MacHislopp in

james says: faith divorced from deeds is lifeless as a corpse.jas.

5.367.691 persons were baptized in the last 18 years (i.e.

"- james 2:26, ne.. .

MacHislopp

Hello everyone,

Notice this letter from the President of the WTBS Inc, in 1974:

*** yb74 254-6 Is Your Faith Dead or Alive? ***

James said, “Faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.” (Jas. 2:17) Having now read the Yearbook, can you say that Jehovah’s Christian witnesses world wide have faith that led them into action? Their faith is certainly not a lifeless thing. All true Christians must show that their faith is a live faith, because “faith without works is dead.” (Jas. 2:26) One’s faith must show up through work in some way. How? Look at the results with 193,990 persons being baptized last year. Jehovah’s witnesses were doing what Christ Jesus directed his disciples to do, make more disciples! So their faith shown by works has been productive.

It is very interesting to note that in the last seven years 949,842 persons were baptized; and in the last 26 years, 2,084,398. These figures say something to us. At the close of the year 1966 there were 1,118,665 publishers who were sharing in the Kingdom service, and since then there have been another 949,842 persons baptized. So today, if we make allowance for those who have died, which normally runs to about one percent per year, still we should have nearly two million persons who could be preaching the good news.

The Yearbook report shows there was a peak in publishers of 1,758,429 out in the field in 1973. So that is approximately 250,000 short of two million.

Think of James’ words again: “Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works?” (Jas. 2:14) Remember, he is talking to those who have dedicated their lives to God and are baptized. He is addressing his words to “my brothers.” Are we to assume that about 250,000 of our brothers and sisters are trying to show faith without any works? It is something to ponder over.

The Society’s records show that 2,084,398 persons were baptized in the last 26 years. Add to that the publishers who were in the field service the previous year, 1947, namely, 207,552, and that gives you a total of 2,291,950 persons. Allowing for the death of about 225,000 persons, at the usual rate of one percent each year, are we to say that since 1947 there have been over three hundred thousand brothers and sisters who have gone out in the field service at some time or other since their dedication and baptism and are now trying to show Jehovah and others their faith without works? James says: “Faith divorced from deeds is lifeless as a corpse.”—Jas. 2:26, NE.

We would very much like to help those who are still living and who at one time were associated with Jehovah’s witnesses as our brothers and sisters and rebuild and strengthen their faith so it will be a live faith, not a dead one. They are always welcome to come to the Kingdom Halls of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The only way that their faith can be made a living faith is by taking in spiritual food and then recognizing the importance of the ministry, following in Christ Jesus’ footsteps.
It is most encouraging, though, in these “last days” to see so many people fleeing from Babylon the Great, taking their stand on Jehovah’s side, walking in integrity and proclaiming the good news. Those serving as congregation publishers certainly did a fine work, and it is also interesting to see that, on an average, 94,604 individuals spent their full time in the pioneer work each month, as compared with 92,026 the year before. It is a pleasure to report that from among the congregation publishers there were many that spent a month or two in the temporary pioneer service and they averaged around ninety hours of field service when they entered that field for a short period. Excellent!
Then, too, the field service report shows that, on an average, there were 1,105 missionaries, 12,521 special pioneers, 1,747 circuit overseers and 189 district overseers in the full-time service in various parts of the world. Due to the generosity of Jehovah’s Christian witnesses everywhere and their contributions to the Society in all countries, we have been able to help these brothers and sisters to the extent of $7,718,242.10, covering their housing, food and travel expenses. In addition to these full-time workers that were assisted, we have 2,733 members of the Bethel family working in 95 branch offices.
Of these 95 branches, 35 do local magazine printing. The printeries in the United States, Germany and Finland, and in a few other places where we have to have books, booklets and magazines made outside our own plants, all together produced 33,354,118 bound books, 10,533,838 booklets, 198,177,981 copies of The Watchtower and 202,520,820 of Awake! The Bethel families everywhere are pleased that they are able to serve you in this way, and they also go from house to house and conduct Bible studies on weekends and during evening hours, as other congregation publishers do.
All the branches have sent in some very excellent reports and field experiences. During the year probably some of these stories can be printed in the Watchtower and Awake! magazines. One thing I would like to say, though, in closing, is that missionaries in all parts of the world expressed their deep appreciation and are thankful for your generous help in arranging for them to travel home during the year 1973 so as to attend one of the “Divine Victory” International Assemblies and visit with their relatives and friends. They love you for it. This generous gift of yours was in addition to the expenditures mentioned above.
And, furthermore, all the branch overseers have requested that the warm love and greetings from their branches and all the brothers in their countries be sent to all of you brothers too. One might try to convey this brotherly love in words similar to those of Paul, saying: ‘But now the branch overseers have just now come to us from you and given us the good news about your faithfulness and love.’ “Moreover, may the Lord cause you to increase, yes, make you abound, in love to one another and to all.”—1 Thess. 3:6, 12.

How wonderful and true this is. In addition to the love conveyed by the branch overseers, over 25,000 of our brothers traveled from one country to another because of the international assemblies, bringing love and greetings. What joy it is for us today to look forward to the divine victory and to be able to show our faith in Jehovah God by our works.
Be assured of my warm love and best wishes too.

Your brother and fellow servant,
President Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania

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For the sake of ' clarification ' let’s do an update, using the figures published in the 2008 yearbook.

“The Society's records shows that :
5.367.691 persons were baptized in the last 18 years (i.e. 1990 -2007 )

Add to that the publishers who were in the field service
the previous year, 1999, namely 5. 912.492 that gives you a total of :

11.280.183 persons.-

Allowing for the death of about 1.128.000 persons,at the usual rate of one percent each year are we to say that since 1999 , there have been over

3.194.331 brothers andsisters

who have gone out on the field service at some time or another since their dedication and baptism and are now trying to show Jehovah and others their faith without works?
James says : " Faith divorced from deeds is lifeless as a corpse."- James 2:26, NE.”

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11.280.183 (-) 1.128.000 (-) 6.957.852 *publishers peak for 2007*

we are left with 3.194.331 b.&S missing . This number divided by 18 gives

177.462 missing /year which is equivalent to 3.412 b&s missing/ each week

or 20 every hour for the last 18 years.

Greetings,

J.C. MacHislopp

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BLONDIE RETURNS!! | COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR...

by V in

next weekend, the first lady of watchtower comments returns to the podium.... .

MacHislopp

Hello Blondie,

well come back...one of the best news we had

in this year 2008

Greetings

J.C.MacHislopp

P.S. Still recovering....slowly but getting better

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How Many JWs REALLY Died in German Concentration Camps?

by Farkel in

in tribute to norman hovland who did the research and wrote this:.

how many jehovah's witnesses in the concentration camps?norman hovland.

how many jehovah's witnesses was there in germany before and shortly after the war?

MacHislopp

Hello again,

this time after downloading a free version of notepad, I'm sending the research on the quotes from the WTBS Inc.

publications starting from the year 1943. It is not as nice as my original, but presentable.

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How many Jehovah’s Witnesses were imprisoned and how many died in the Nazi's concentration camps?

1943
From the book: The Truth shall make you free” published by the WTBS Inc. New York, Chapter XXIV , page 316 :
« Eventually 6000 of them were thrown into concentration camps, isolated and distinguished
fromother by a violet badge , and most brutally treated”.

7 years later:

1950

*** w50 12/15 p. 500 Jehovah’s Witnesses Again Endure Totalitarian Hate ***
“With the mass-arresting of Jehovah’s witnesses these people have now, for the second time within a couple of decades, donned the martyr’s crown—and they know what that means. Already during the Hitler regime about 1,000 Jehovah’s witnesses were executed as traitors, because they not only refused to serve in the war but openly opposed Hitler’s authority. Another 1,000 of Jehovah’s witnesses died in prisons and concentration camps, and all who have afterwards been describing life in those camps have in their books given Jehovah’s witnesses the very highest recognition.

8 years later:

1951

*** w51 2/15 pp. 105-106 An Open Answer to “The Vindicator” ***
That is why during the Nazi regime in Germany from 1933 to 1945 Jehovah’s witnesses in that land refused to heil Hitler! as their Fuehrer or Leader, and went to concentration camps and prisons, where 2,000 died cruel deaths, and of the 8,000 that came out alive, 2,000 were invalided for the rest of their lives.

11 years later:

1954

*** w54 12/1 pp. 724-725 par. 17 The Fight for Freedom to Preach World-wide ***
17 It is a familiar story about the fight for freedom fought by Jehovah’s witnesses to preach in Nazi- and Fascist-dominated lands from 1933 to 1945. Thousands were thrown into the concentration camps. Many were tortured and killed. Countless numbers died because of their loyalty to Jehovah God.

12 years later:

1955

*** w55 8/1 pp. 462-463 Part 15—Foreign Activities Under Fascist-Nazi Persecution ***
Thus a mad national effort was embarked upon, to eliminate Jehovah’s witnesses from the German national scene. In the course of the dark years that followed thousands of witnesses were arrested, falsely convicted and put in prisons and concentration camps where many of them suffered unspeakably. Some two thousand witnesses lost their lives in this struggle to keep faithful integrity to Jehovah.

21 years later:

1964

*** w64 1/1 p. 13 par. 19 They Listened to an Angel ***
19 Hitler, a Roman Catholic, the arm of his church in Germany, forbade Jehovah’s witnesses to preach the kingdom of God, and these modern-day Christians had to say to Hitler’s Gestapo police: ‘Whether it is righteous in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, judge for yourselves.’ They kept preaching even though 10,000 of them were put in concentration camps and over 4,000 died there. The rest nearly starved to death. The war’s end aided their survival.

31 years later:

1974

*** yb74 p. 212 Part 3—Germany ***
A total of 2,000 brothers and sisters had been put into concentration camps, where they had spent 8,078 years and six months, an average of four years. A total of 635 had died in prison, 253 had been sentenced to death and 203 of these had actually been executed. What a record of integrity!

31 years later:

1974

*** g74 1/22 p. 32 Would You Remain Loyal? ***

In Nazi Germany Jehovah’s witnesses refused to compromise. They remained loyal to righteous principles. They had no share in Hitler’s political or military aggressions. Just a few decades ago, hundreds died in his concentration camps. But thousands came out strong in faith.

36 years later:

1979

*** w79 11/1 p. 7 Neutrality in a Mixed-up World ***
Many Christian witnesses of Jehovah in Nazi Germany and elsewhere lost their lives in maintaining neutrality. As they faced death they drew comfort from Jesus’ words: “Do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but rather be in fear of him that can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna [eternal death].” (Matt. 10:28)

41 years later:

1984

*** w84 10/1 p. 8 Impressed by the Integrity of Jehovah’s Witnesses ***
The title of Dr. King’s book is The Nazi State and the New Religions: Five Case Studies in Non-Conformity.
Most outstanding among Dr. King’s findings are the figures of deaths and imprisonment of Jehovah’s Witnesses. These indicate that the figures previously published by the Witnesses were greatly underestimated. Dr. King’s source for these statistics was a volume published in Munich, Germany, by Michael Kater. “My own perusal of Court and Gestapo records,” she declared, “would certainly support these higher figures.”
What are these figures? “Some 10,000 were imprisoned, and together they received sentences totalling 20,000 years. One out of every two German Witnesses was imprisoned, one in four lost their lives.

41 years later:

1984

*** g84 12/8 p. 13 Nazi-Fascist Attacks on Witnesses ***
Some were not only victims but also martyrs, for they could have obtained their release. That was the case, according to one source, with the 10,000 Witnesses, men and women, who were victims of the sadism and brutality that Hitler and his S.S. henchmen had organized. Those Witnesses were given the opportunity to sign a paper renouncing their religion and thus go free. Very few accepted.—See The Nazi State and the New Religions: Five Case Studies in Non-Conformity, by Dr. Christine E. King.
Of the 10,000, about 2,500 never did go free, according to the above source—they died in Dachau, Belsen, Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, Ravensbrück, Auschwitz, Mauthausen and other camps—faithful to their God, Jehovah, and their exemplar, Christ. Aside from those who were gassed, many died as a result of beatings, starvation and medical experimentation. Others, including women, were executed by being hanged, beheaded or shot.

43 years later:

1986

*** w86 1/1 p. 10 par. 3 Days Like “the Days of Noah” ***
. And as to persecution, Jesus forewarned his disciples, saying: “They will put some of you to death.” Hundreds of our brothers died at the violent hands of Nazi Hitler. Jehovah will remember all of such in the resurrection

45 years later:

1988

*** re chap. 8 p. 40 par. 9 Striving to Be Conquerors ***
9 During Nazi rule in Germany, Hitler completely banned the preaching work of Jehovah’s Witnesses. For years, thousands of Witnesses were cruelly confined in concentration camps and prisons, where many died, while some 200 young men who refused to fight in Hitler’s army were executed.

1988

*** re chap. 27 p. 185 par. 28 God’s Kingdom Is Born! ***
28 This vicious flood of persecution reached a high point during World War II. In Europe some 12,000 Witnesses were incarcerated in Nazi concentration camps and prisons, and about 2,000 died.

46 years later:

1989

*** w89 1/1 p. 21 par. 13 “To Jehovah Belongs the Battle” ***
. The book Mothers in the Fatherland reported: “[Jehovah’s Witnesses] were sent to concentration camps, a thousand of them were executed, and another thousand died between 1933 and 1945. . . . Catholics and Protestants heard their clergy urge them to cooperate with Hitler.

47 years later:

1990

*** w90 2/1 p. 22 par. 9 Exposing “the Man of Lawlessness” ***
9 Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses have surrendered their soul in behalf of their friends in obeying the law of love. A review of the book Kirchenkampf in Deutschland (Fight of the Churches in Germany), by Friedrich Zipfel, says regarding the Witnesses: “Ninety-seven percent of the members of this small religious group were victims of National Socialistic [Nazi] persecution. One third of them were killed, either by execution, other violent acts, hunger, sickness or slave labor

50 years later:

1993

*** g93 5/8 p. 4 Victims or Martyrs What Is the Difference? ***
During the Nazi period in Germany (1933-45), Jehovah’s Witnesses suffered terrible persecution for daring to remain neutral and for refusing to serve in Hitler’s war effort. Thousands were sent to the dreaded concentration camps, where many were executed and others died from mistreatment.

1993

*** g93 5/8 p. 31 A Holocaust Museum and Jehovah’s Witnesses ***
The Nazis thus banned them as an organization in April 1933. Accused of both civil and religious disobedience, they were among the first groups to be thrown into concentration camps. “Ultimately, more than 30,000 Witnesses were persecuted by the Nazis,” states a museum newsletter.

1993

*** g93 5/8 p. 32 “‘Jehovah’ Erased by Nazis” ***
All of this was part of the Nazis’ campaign of persecution of the Jews. At the same time, it was doubtless intended to strike a blow against Jehovah’s Witnesses, who had been banned since 1933 and were also being sent to the concentration camps.
In 1933 there were 19,268 active Witnesses in Germany.

52 years later:

1995

*** g95 8/22 p. 10 The Evils of Nazism Exposed ***
Why were Jehovah’s Witnesses so well acquainted with the concentration camps? When World War II started in 1939, there were already 6,000 Witnesses confined in camps and prisons. German historian Detlef Garbe estimates that the Witnesses constituted at that time between 5 and 10 percent of the total camp population!

At a seminar on the Witnesses and the Holocaust, Garbe stated: “Of the 25,000 persons who admitted to being Jehovah’s Witnesses at the beginning of the Third Reich, about 10,000 were imprisoned for any length of time. Of these, over 2,000 were admitted to concentration camps. This means that the Jehovah’s Witnesses were, with the exception of the Jews, the worst persecuted by the SS of all the religious based groups.”

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53 years later:

1996

** g96 9/8 p. 30 From Our Readers ***

However, as a group Jehovah’s Witnesses refused to support the Nazi regime. Thus, they became the targets of vicious persecution by Hitler’s government. Thousands suffered imprisonment in concentration camps, and many died there. See our August 22, 1995, issue.—ED.

53 years later:

1996

*** g96 1/8 p. 28 Watching the World ***

Interestingly, the Tribune observed that historian John S. Conway, of the University of British Columbia, Canada, said that the only religious organization that absolutely refused to follow the Nazis was Jehovah’s Witnesses. He added that for this more than half were sent to concentration camps.

54 years later:

1997

*** g97 8/22 p. 26 Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia ***
Because Jehovah’s Witnesses refused to cry out ‘Heil Hitler’ and serve in Hitler’s army, many thousands of believers were sent to Nazi concentration camps, and thousands died.

57 years later:

2000

*** g00 12/22 p. 18 The First One a Hundred Years Ago ***

In 1933 the branch was confiscated by the Nazis, the Witnesses were banned and, in time, two thousand of them were sent to concentration camps.

57 years later:

*** w00 4/1 p. 19 par. 5 Fighters Against God Will Not Prevail! ***

5 Dictatorships emerged in the 1930’s, and Germany, Italy, and Japan united to form the Axis powers. Early in that decade, barbaric persecution was unleashed against God’s people, notably in Nazi Germany. Bans were imposed. Homes were searched, and their occupants were arrested. Thousands were thrown into concentration camps because they refused to renounce their faith.

58 years later:

2001

*** g01 4/22 p. 5 A Focus of the Soviet Attack ***

Further increase, “unbelievable as it may sound,” Kolarz wrote, came from “the German concentration camps.” The Nazis had imprisoned thousands of Witnesses for refusing to support Hitler and his war of aggression.

58 years later:

2001

*** w01 3/15 p. 9 Courageous Integrity Keepers Triumph Over Nazi Persecution ***
By 1939, six thousand of them had been imprisoned, and thousands had been sent to concentration camps. (Picture 3) What was the situation by the end of World War II? Some 2,000 imprisoned Witnesses had died, over 250 by execution.

61 years later:

2004

*** w04 12/1 p. 26 Trusting in Jehovah’s Loving Care ***
In 1936 and 1937, the Gestapo conducted mass arrests and threw thousands of Witnesses into prisons and concentration camps, where they suffered the most cruel and sadistic treatment.

62 years later:

2005

*** w05 12/15 p. 22 par. 13 Whom Do You Obey—God or Men? ***

His efficient death machine seemed more than equal to the task. The Nazis did succeed in rounding up thousands of Witnesses and sending them off to concentration camps. They even managed to kill some Witnesses.

63 years later:

2006

*** w06 2/15 p. 32 “What Does the Purple Triangle Mean?” ***
In Germany under the Nazi regime, Jehovah’s Witnesses refused to heil Hitler, and they maintained neutrality on political and military issues. So the Nazis cruelly persecuted them, incarcerating some 12,000 Witnesses for varying lengths of time in prisons and concentration camps. About 2,000 of them died, hundreds being executed.

64 years later:

2007

*** es07 p. 17 February ***
Thursday, February 1
You may perhaps be found fighters actually against God.—Acts 5:39.
When Jehovah’s Witnesses in Germany refused to heil Adolf Hitler as their Führer, Hitler vowed to exterminate them. (Matt. 23:10) His efficient death machine seemed more than equal to the task. The Nazis did succeed in rounding up thousands of Witnesses and sending them off to concentration camps. They even managed to kill some Witnesses.

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From outside souces :

The Victim List Project was approved in November 2000 f

United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Name Lists Catalog
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Name Lists
By 1939, approximately 6,000 Jehovah's Witnesses from the Reich (including Austria and the Protectorate) were incarcerated in prisons or camps. Of those 20,000 German Witnesses who remained active throughout the Nazi period, approximately one-half were convicted at some juncture during that time. Between 2,000 and 2,500 German Witnesses and 700-800 non-German Witnesses were interned in concentration camps. The number of Jehovah's Witness deaths in the camps totaled approximately 1000 German Witnesses and 400 non-German Witnesses (including 90 Austrians and 120 Dutch). It is worth noting that non-German Jehovah's Witnesses suffered a considerably higher death rate than German Witnesses. In addition to the above number, approximately 250 Germans were executed, mostly following military tribunals for refusal to commit to military service.

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from the : NSW Jewish Board of Deputies 2000@((Australia)

Australia

In April 1933 19,268 Jehovah's Witnesses were living in Germany. Some 10 000 were arrested and of these, 4-5000 were murdered. Their organisation was outlawed, despite the fact that it endorsed a traditional religiously-motivated antisemitism. Families were broken up; children removed from their parents and handed into the custody of the State. From 1937 adult Jehovah's Witnesses were sent to concentration camps, where they were identified by purple triangles. In their suffering the Jehovah's Witnesses saw a sign from God; they saw their fate as unmistakable proof of their future salvation. They followed the guards' orders willingly and for this they earned the distrust and condemnation of fellow inmates. More than 1500 Jehovah's Witnesses died in the camps.

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Greetings to all,

J.C.MacHislopp(

(...sent already ...just to give a ' more precise ' situation