Posts by MacHislopp

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Has Philippians 4 versus 6 and 7 actually helped anyone?!

by Isambard Crater in

if i received a dollar for every time an elder had told me to read and meditate on this scripture over the years, i would be really wealthy.

maybe when i was a kid, scriptures like this made me feel a little bit better, but once i had learned ttatt and also lost my faith in god, or at least the borganization's version of god, scriptures like phil 4 versus 6+7 do nothing for me, but they are always, always quoted in public talks about depression, or during shepherding visits..

MacHislopp

Hello Nikl,

Thanks for your excellent references. A great and truthfull tool,

based only on God's word.

Greetings,

J.C. Mac Hislopp

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RC 2017 - Videos of the FULL English Convention - all 17 hours

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

the full english convention videos - 17 hours in total (includes all videos, demos etc etc):https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6dvjl5/2017_dont_give_up_regional_convention_official/the programme listings:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5695993188188160/_post/6017797521932288the talk outlines:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5695993188188160/_post/6213656196939776the new releases:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5695993188188160/_post/5686585930547200.

MacHislopp

Hello darksilver,

would you be so kind to send me the link to what you have posted i.e.

ALL the 2017 Reg Cov. directly to my g.mail account which is the following:

[email protected]

I do mean what you wrote:

· "... everything including the music intros and songs but not the prayers " Not the rest as I have downloaded them already.

Thank you very much for your kindness/

Greetings,

J.C. MacHislopp

(P.S. Sorry for the different font.

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BLONDIE'S COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE 3-5-2017 WT STUDY (YEAR'S TEXT)(JANUARY 2017)

by blondie in

jw
friends

blondie’s comments you will not hear at the march 5, 2017 wt study (january 2017) (trust jah).

excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

MacHislopp

Hello Blondie and all the others

as usual exellent comments. King David and his life has been always been a problem

for me . Was his life a good example? I do not belive it at all.

Concerning the woman caught in adultery (John 7:53-8:1-11) I would like to add do like that wee have all been "caught" in our sins. By the same token the apostle James said that if you break one commandment, you've broken them all (James 2:10).

That places all of us, men and women alike, on the same moral level. We have all sinned. If all Christians would have eyes to see this truth, we would humbly eliminate all self-righteousness from our hearts.

In short, we are all made of clay; we all have the propensity to sin. With one devastating statement Jesus Christ demonstrated that the Law wasn't wrong, but if everyone saw the Law for what it was, we would understand that we are all guilty. Including the self-anointed, puritanical, moral “ guardians of the faith” at that time known as the scribes and Pharisees, today called “the Society’s Governing Body members ... and all elders those who follow in their footsteps, in the so-called “Judicial committees”!

Thanks again for all your time and efforts, which I do appreciate greatly,

All the best to ou all,

J.C. MacHislopp

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Are they studying the Truth book in Sunday's photo?

by berrygerry in

this got buried in a thread, so i'll ask in a new thread.. in the 2017 convention program is this photo for sunday.

can someone with better eyes tell me if those are truth books?.

https://assetsnffrgf-a.akamaihd.net/assets/m/1102017403/univ/art/1102017403_univ_lsr_lg.jpg.

MacHislopp

Hello smiddy and all the others ,tings

here below the search that you have requested.

From:the book :

Jehovah’s Witnesses—Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom

(1993 edition)

*** jv chap. 8 p. 105 Declaring the Good News Without Letup (1942-1975) ***

The answer came in 1968 with the release of a new Bible study aid, The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life. This 192-page pocket-size book was prepared with newly interested ones in mind. It contained 22 absorbing chapters dealing with such subjects as “Why It Is Wise to Examine Your Religion,” “Why We Grow Old and Die,” “Where Are the Dead?” “Why Has God Permitted Wickedness Until Our Day?” “How to Identify the True Religion,” and “Building a Happy Family Life.” The Truth book was designed to encourage the Bible student to reason on the material being considered and to apply it in his own life.

This new publication was to be used in connection with a six-month Bible study program. The September 1968 issue of the Kingdom Ministry explained how the new program would work: “It would be good to try to study a whole chapter of the ‘Truth’ book each week, though this may not be possible with all householders or with all the chapters in the book. . . . If, at the end of six months of intensive study and conscientious efforts to get them to meetings, they are not yet associating with the congregation, then it may be best to use your time to study with someone else who really wants to learn the truth and make progress. Make it your goal to present the good news on Bible studies in such a way that interested ones will act within six months!”

And act they did! In a short period of time, the six-month Bible study program had astounding success. For the three service years beginning September 1, 1968, and ending August 31, 1971, a total of 434,906 persons were baptized—more than double the number baptized during the previous three service years! Coming as it did at a time when there was a feeling of expectancy and urgency among Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Truth book and the six-month Bible study campaign greatly aided in speeding up the disciple-making work.—Matt. 28:19, 20.

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Greetings,,

JC MacHislopp

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What is the name of this specific book?

by QuestionAskerPersonMan in

i'm taking a class, and we are learning about jws.

my teacher is talking about a "big brown book" that is used for any questions or scriptures quoted by the person who jws are talking to.

he used it in the context that if they don't know the answer off the top of their head, they look for the verse in this book.. what is the name of this book?.

MacHislopp

Hello QAPMan,

sparky 1 gave the right picure of the cover page. It was printed in 1973 (only 200.000

copies ). Has 1274 pages . Btw quite useful when you don't remember all

verse but only a word . It will give you all the places where that " specific " word appears.

Greeting to all

CH MacHislopp

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New flip flop document - updated from last year

by Splash in

about this time last year i uploaded a document as part of my going away post.. as stated at the time i had to lie low, and am still doing so.

sort of.

mostly.i pop up rarely to chip in when my 'ardour comes up into my nose' about something lol, but still read the leaks and back-and-forth between the members here.

MacHislopp

Hello Splash and everyone on this forum,

what an excellent and very useful compilation you’ve made. Of course it has gone already into my data base for future refence and use.

Actually I’m working on the informations provided by the w February 2017 :

THE WATCHTOWER, Study edition February 2017

page 26 par. 12

Q. 2. Since the Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible, what questions arise?

“WHO REALLY IS THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE?”

12 The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, theWatch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870.

Taking their words ,I have checked all the refences given in *** dx30-85 Beliefs Clarified *** and *** dx86-16 Beliefs Clarified ***.

To make very short , pause fo a moment only , the refernces given by the Society’s Governing Body for the “clarified beliefs” listed in the Watch Tower Publications Index for last 16 years i.e. from January 1st 2000 until December 31st 2016.

All the refences –amount to an unbelievable total of 163 pages defining the Society’s Governing Body “explanations”, “adjustements”, “refined understanding”, “changed viewpoint “ , “clarifications “ “ for a total of 59 subjects “clarified beliefs”.-

I’m working on the rest of the references.

Greetings to all of you and thanks, thanks again to you Splash for using your precious time and dedication to provide this forum with your compilation.! .

JC MacHislopp

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2016 Watchtower Library CD ROM

by The Searcher in

available for download.

just remember to reject the "automatic updates" from the org.. http://avoidjw.org/watchtower-library/.

MacHislopp

Hello Searcher,

thanks a lot for a nice surprise ...more than a month in advance in

most of the European countries!!

Btw, to Blondie I wish you all the best to you and your family.

Greetings JC MacHislopp

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Real Estate Business?

by no-zombie in

i was going over some of the older posts of others and without starting some kind of flame war, i got no idea why people are saying that the society is some kind of real estate business.

of course its making millions of dollars in its real estate sales but this a one time event.

its down sizing by selling the furniture.

MacHislopp

Hello again,

I've just receiced an e-mail requesting a recent example:

here below the information:

WTBS Inc New York (USA) propertysale

See :

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=40.698677%2C73.991238&spn=0.008069%2C0.010884&hl=en&t=m&oe=UTF8&ctz=240&vpsrc=1&msa=0&source=embed&ie=UTF8&mid=zQLYvPNWTaco.kk6imoMeJNAY)

105 Willow St

117 Adams St

107 Columbia Heights

119 Columbia Heights

124 Columbia Heights

161 Columbia Heights

165 Columbia Heights

183 Columbia Heights

25 Columbia Heights

97 Columbia Heights

30 Columbia Heights

58 Columbia Heights

173 Front St

177 Front St

175 Pearl St

200 Water St

34 Orange St

50 Orange St

55 Furman St

1 York St

69 Adams St

81 Prospect St

67 Furman St

67 Remsen St

75 Adams St

86 Willow St

76 Willow St

21 Clark St

80 Willow St

85 Jay St

90 Sands St

98 Montague St

77 Sands St

And

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The Society of UK , buys

£ 1.000.000 luxury sea-front property in Wales, UK

· The WTS has purchased a luxury sea-front property in Wales allegedly to be used for people working on translating publications into the Welsh language.

Property description

Superbly positioned above The Menai Strait with direct water access, Y Gwylain has been impressively developed to a high standard by the present owner and is highly recommended for an internal viewing. The property comprises of entrance hallway, reception hallway, impressive open plan 'live in kitchen/family room', lounge, sitting room, games room, 2 studies, utility, cloakroom, shower room, 5 double bedrooms, four en-suites and a family bathroom. The property benefits from having gas central heating, double glazing, garage, established landscaped gardens with decked areas and pond. The property enjoys fantastic sea view of The Menai Strait, The Menai Suspension Bridge and across to Anglesey.

5 Bedrooms
Lounge
Kitchen
Utility Room
Shower Room
Sitting Room
Office
Games Room
Second Office
En-Suite
Family Bathroom
En-Suite
En-Suite
Store Room

ground floor

Entrance Hallway Hardwood door with double glazed side panel, high pitched ceiling with double glazed Velux window, three wall light points, meter cupboard, cloaks cupboard, oak doors, Travertine flooring with underfloor heating and glazed doors leading to:

Reception Hallway 13'9" (4.2m) x 24'7" (7.5m) max (9'2" (2.8m) min). Open spindled staircase to the first and second floors and oak glazed doors leading to lounge.

Lounge 18'4" x 20'4" (5.59m x 6.2m). Cast iron multi fuel burner on a raised slate hearth, six wall light points, television aerial point, engineered oak flooring, radiator, vaulted ceiling, double glazed patio doors and double glazed windows to the rear and side from which there are views across the extensive rear garden and Menai Straits to the Isle of Anglesey.

Kitchen 32'10" x 17'9" (10m x 5.4m). Open plan living kitchen and family room. Kitchen Area - There is a range of drawer and base units in a cherry finish with dark stone style block end worksurfaces over, island unit with breakfast bar, inset five ring induction hob with splashback and extractor above, inset one and a half bowl sink unit with mixer tap, integral dishwasher, integral fridge, Travertine flooring with underfloor heating, double glazed patio doors leading to the rear garden, two wall light points and recessed halogen downlighters. Living Area - High pitched ceiling with halogen downlighters, Travertine flooring with underfloor heating, two wall light points, additional patio doors leading to the garden, oak glazed door leading to the utility room and panoramic views of Menai Straits including The Menai Bridge and The Britannia Bridge.

Utility Room Range of drawer and base units with roll top worksurfaces over, single drainer sink unit with mixer tap with storage cupboard below, plumbing for washing machine, space for fridge and freezer, double glazed door leading to the rear garden, Travertine flooring with underfloor heating and high pitched ceiling with halogen downlighters.

Shower Room Modern white suite comprising corner glazed shower cubicle with mixer shower, low flush WC and pedestal wash hand basin with mixer tap, ceramic tiling up to a mosaic border, halogen downlighters, extractor fan, heated towel rail and Travertine flooring.

Sitting Room 19' x 10'10" (5.8m x 3.3m). Double glazed patio doors leading to the rear garden, radiator, engineered oak flooring, television aerial point and door to:

Office 9'10" x 17'9" (3m x 5.4m). Double glazed picture window with views across the decked garden to Menai Straits, double glazed patio doors leading to the side garden, telephone point, radiator and engineered oak flooring.

Games Room 22' x 20' (6.7m x 6.1m). Double glazed window and patio doors leading to the rear garden, six wall light points, three halogen downlighters, central lighting unit fitted for pool table, two radiators, laminate flooring, understairs storage cupboard, door to the second staircase and oak panel door to:

Second Office 7'3"x 5'3" (2.2mx 1.6m). Double glazed window, fitted work station and radiator.

First floor

Gallaried Landing Open spindle blaustrade, stairs leading to the second floor, four wall light points, radiator, airing cupboard and oak panel door leading to the master bedroom.

Master Bedroom 20'4" x 18'8" (6.2m x 5.7m). Floor to ceiling double glazed windows with patio doors leading to the raised decked balcony with balustrade and has views across to The Menai Strait and Isle of Anglesey, two radiators, fitted wardrobes incorporating four double wardrobes, three wall light points and oak panel door leading to:

En-Suite Modern white suite comprising hand wash basin with mixer tap, low flush WC and walk in shower cubicle with mixer shower and fitted body jets, heated towel rail, recessed halogen downlighters, extractor fan and ceramic tiled flooring.

Bedroom Two

Family Bathroom Modern white suite comprising hand wash basin with mixer tap, ceramic tiled bath with shower tap attachment and low flush WC, shaver point with fitted mirror lighting unit, walk in shower cubicle with shelf, heated towel rail, ceramic tiled to a mosaic border, ceramic tiled flooring, double glazed window, recessed halogen downlighters, extractor fan and built in linen cupboard with radiator.

Bedroom Three 14'1" x 11'2" (4.3m x 3.4m). Radiator, double glazed patio doors overlooking the rear garden and has access to a raised decked balcony area.

Rear Inner Hallway Stairs to the games room and door to:

Bedroom Four 17'5" x 19'4" (5.3m x 5.9m). Floor to ceiling double glazed windows and double glazed patio doors leading to the rear decked garden, sea views and views to The Menai Strait, radiator and oak panel door leading to:

En-Suite Modern white suite comprising low flush WC, pedestal wash hand basin with mixer tap, fitted lighting mirror unit, shaver point, walk in mosaic tiled shower cubicle, ceramic tiled to a mosaic border, recessed halogen downlighters, heated towel rail, extractor fan, double glazed window and Travertine tiled flooring.

Second floor

Landing Double glazed roof window with sea views and views to The Menai Strait and Isle of Anglesey, radiator, light point, open spindle balustrade and doors to:

Bedroom Five 16'9" (5.1m) x 18'8" (5.7m) (limited headroom). Double glazed Velux windows to the front and rear, to the front there are sea views and views to The Menai Strait and Isle of Anglesey, two radiators and oak panel door to:

En-Suite Glazed corner walk in shower cubicle with mixer shower, vanity hand wash basin with storage cupboard below, fitted lighting mirror unit, ceramic tiled splashbacks, integral WC, double glazed Velux window, heated towel rail, extractor fan and Travertine tiled flooring.

Store Room 31'6" x 12'2" (9.6m x 3.7m). Double glazed Velux window.

Link:

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/property-history/y-gwylain/holyhead-road/bangor/ll57-2hq/31536032

Greetings ,

JC MacHislopp

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Real Estate Business?

by no-zombie in

i was going over some of the older posts of others and without starting some kind of flame war, i got no idea why people are saying that the society is some kind of real estate business.

of course its making millions of dollars in its real estate sales but this a one time event.

its down sizing by selling the furniture.

MacHislopp

Hello no-zombie,

on the same subject take a look at what the WTBS Inc New York

was doing more than a decade ago...it a very long reading but full of informations.

filed and saved , in case you should wish more informations!

Here is the old post:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/53692/wtbs-financial-empire-tip-iceberg

Greetings ,

J.C. MacHislopp

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God’teachings or men’s personal opinions and interpretations ?

by MacHislopp in

before addressing the topic, i would like you to keep in mind the following statement coming from the society’s governing body:

· 'the golden age' january 18th, 1933 page 252.

· "if the message the jehovah's witnesses are bringing to the people is true, then it is of greatest importance to mankind.

MacHislopp

Hello again,

Thanks to all of you for the comments.

DATA-DOG I’ve been away and also not too well.

Heaven: I do agree with you.

FastJehu: Thanks for the quote. I had in my data but you posted faster.

Blondie: A special greeting to you. A great gain to this board ..and others.

I do hope that everything is fine with you.

Back to the topic. I'm adding these few quotes to reinforce the point:***

i.e.

The Society’s Governing Body divulgates just men’s ideas, teaching, doctrines and personal viewpoints.-

A)

*** w52 4/15 p. 253 Aids for Understanding Prophecy ***

“ Jehovah’s witnesses themselves are not nor can they be interpreters of prophecies. But as fast as the “superior authorities” Jehovah and Christ Jesus reveal the interpretations through their provided channel that fast do God’s people publish them the world over to strengthen the faith of all lovers of righteousness.”

B)

w54 10/15 pp. 638-639 Questions from Readers

.°It is this organization that is enjoying that fulfillment and it is through this organization that Jehovah sends further light and spiritual food that rectifies any erroneous conceptions previously entertained, as well as adding to the rich storehouse of spiritual food available for those devoted to him and willing to exert themselves in his service by telling it to others.”

C)

*** w57 6/15 p. 370 Overseers of Jehovah’s People ***

7 Let us now unmistakably identify Jehovah’s channel of communication for our day, that we may continue in his favor. Listen to the inspired answer to the situation, in Matthew 24:45-47 (NW): …..It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the “slave” as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision.”

D)

w64 5/1 p. 277 Building a Firm Foundation in Christ ***

“ It is through the columns of The Watchtower that Jehovah provides direction and constant Scriptural counsel to his people, and it requires careful study and attention to details in order to apply this information, to get a full understanding of the principles involved, and to assure ourselves of right thinking on these matters.”

E)

*** w88 3/1 p. 17 My Life in Jehovah’s Spirit-Directed Organization ***

“ Jehovah is simultaneously feeding all his people spiritually through The Watchtower and other Biblical publications.”

F)

*** w01 8/1 p. 14 Make Your Advancement Manifest ***

“Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and “the faithful and discreet slave.”

Then like a magician performance, the Society’s Governing Body takes out of his symbolic “spiritual” hat this claim/teaching (which looks more like a disclaimer) :

THE WATCHTOWER, Study edition February 2017

page 26 par. 12 ( Study article for Sunday April 30th 2017)

Q. 2. Since the Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible, what questions arise?

“WHO REALLY IS THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE?”

12 The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, theWatch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870.

Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food. So how can we answer Jesus’ question: “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?” (Matt. 24:45)

As a result again ” Jehovah and Christ Jesus ” disappear from the scene!!!

Greetings to all of you,

· JC MacHislopp

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·" Nescit vox missa reverti"( Horatius, ars poetica, 390)

(A word, once spoken, cannot be recalled back )