Hello openminded,
I do find your question very original,
but I do believe that the answer can be an...elusive one!
I 'll try to think of one and post it!
Agape, J.C.MacHislopp
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Perhaps a silly question
by openminded ini was just wondering how the only true god, who has been in existence for ever and ever, would have never had to settle the issue of his sovereignty up until a few short years ago with adam?.
i mean infinity is a long, long time to be around and never be questioned about this.
are we gods first experiment with free will?
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WTBS Made a Huge Mistake!
by patio34 ini was tempted to write the wtbs today.
i'm reading a loaned copy (from my younger sister, 'waiting') of ray franz's "in search of christian freedom.
" it is a masterful point-by-point refutation of the wts doctrine.
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Hello everyone,
to Patio 34,
It is nice to find out , that this subject elates so many good observations:
How cleverly the WTS refuses to defend its policies on the basis of 'apostasy' when Jesus, Jehovah, and the early Christians did just the opposite. "
to Francoise:
"….if they had ceased defending the indefensible, if they - in short - had gotten real and acknowledged the validity of the concerns of its members? "
Very good, logical and true point.
to Farkel:
"He's DFd for questioning the "generation" issue, which the society quietly changed later. He DIED DF and he had it RIGHT to begin with. "
Very, very sad. Someone has to pay for all this …cruel attitude!
to Dedalus:
"Well, I don't know her personally, and even so, I wouldn't know the full facts of what happened there." It's going to get frustrating for you if you try to share what you're learning with other Witnesses. Personally, I find that passive, do-nothing stance repulsive ..."
I have the same feeling. Btw , CO and DO take very often that attitude…the easy way out!!
Not Christian…but coward!to HadEnough:
"This control over peoples' lives has to stop. These books, and others like it, are a priceless weapon in destroying the pristine, pretty picture the WTS wants to paint of itself.
These books, along with all the info coming out on the web, and soon in the media, have got to have a domino effect on stirring many more into action...either of leaving or causing enough disruption to result in drastic changes being made."I do agree with you and hope as you wrote that:
"....result in drastic changes being made."
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
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WTS assets
by MacHislopp inhello kent,.
what i meant about money conversions was.
to give the net assets of ibsa and wtbts of penn., in different.
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Hello Yerusalyim,
Thanks for your post and the figures for the
yearly budget of the Catholic church. What a surprise!!Btw ...I don’t get this part...
"Do ya remember a song that went "too much time on my hands"?
Just curious, does it apply?" ...sorry!
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
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The apostle's Paul reproof...
by MacHislopp ina small question:.
according to the following text, paul , in antioch relates a reproof that he.
gave to peter and others because "they were not walking straight ...".
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Hello anglise,
excellent observation!
"Right, not only were they reproved but the account of the meeting and what was said was written down and circulated for all to see.
Nothing was behind closed doors.
When will the r&f JW be accorded such treatment not only of local (and I dont mean personal private info) but things that the GB discuss and then have implemented that could then mean life or death to a loyal jdub."I do agree 100% with your statement. I've always disliked, greatly , these kind of closed
door meetings, hush hush, expecially when " dealing with appointed brother" guilty of
very serious misconduct, unworthy… for any Christian!
For ex. why not disclosing the reason why R. Franz was
no longer a member of "the governing body "?Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
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Growth ..proof of blessings!
by MacHislopp inone of the recent claim from the wts was published in the.
w. 15.01.2001 p. 12 :" millions of kingdom proclaimers - a mighty nation -are now associating with more than 91,000 congregations in 235 lands around the earth.. unquestionably, this confirms that jehovah is speeding up the ingathering of true.
worshippers before the outbreak of the" great tribulation," now so near at hand.-.
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Hello Francoise,
Thanks for your comment and updated figures worldwide!
Somebody and Prisca: Thanks for your comments!
My question is :
Why the WTS does not give the true situation???
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
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who are the governing body?
by robin33126 injehovah witness when mentioning "governing body" they say it like if they knew who these people are.
i asked one jw to mentioned their names and couldn't answer me.
so what is so special if they don't know the names, lives, background, of these people?
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Hello everyone,
interesting post !Belbab:
"The question went something like this: I said Moses, a leader of Israel, failed to enter into the Promised land because he failed to honor Jehovah when he struck the rock for water. David sinned, had a man murdered and claimed his wife for himself. Soloman failed. Peter denied Christ three times, Christianity fell away, the Inquisition, Protestants also failed. Russell was wrong in his predictions and his organisation went into 'captivity to Babylon'. Rutherford built Beth Sarim and said the 'princes' would shortly return. I said all these failed in their worship of God. Then I asked, "what do you think are the failings of the Watchtower today?" There was dead silence. He got up and walked away, without a word. "
and the "icing on the cake ":
"I recently learned that that circuit overseer is now the youngest member of the governing body, DAVID SPLANE. "
A w.w.web information ,gives David Splane date of birth as 1944
and Steve Lett date of birth as 1949 !!!Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
P.S. Maybe he'll read this post and gives
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Psalm 23...!
by MacHislopp ini found this...buried in the w.w.web :.
the watchtower 23rd psalm.
by m. lande weissman.
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Hello everyone,
I found this...buried in the w.w.web :
The Watchtower 23rd Psalm
by M. Lande Weissman
The Watchtower is my shepherd
I shall not be in spiritual want.
It fuels my hope for greener pastures;
It leads me through troubled waters.
It replaces my soul; It leads me in
door-to-door work for its own name sake.
Yea, though I tread through the shadows of 1975;
I will fear no self-examination,
for Watchtower "New Light" is with me;
Its organizational literature conforms me.
It prepares spiritual food for me in
the absence of any critics;
It annoints its 144,000 with oil,
while my cup runs empty.
Surely goodness & mercy will eventually
find me at the end of the 1000 year reign;
And only then will I truly dwell in the
Watchtower spiritual paradise forever!Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
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Proverbs 4:18 contrast between good/evil*** Rbi8 Proverbs 4:14-19 ***
14 Into the path of the wicked ones do not enter, and do not walk straight on into the way of the bad ones. 15 Shun it, do not pass along by it; turn aside from it, and pass along. 16 For they do not sleep unless they do badness, and their sleep has been snatched away unless they cause someone to stumble. 17 For they have fed themselves with the bread of wickedness, and the wine of acts of violence is what they drink. 18 But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established. 19 The way of the wicked ones is like the gloom; they have not known at what they keep stumbling.
w. 15.01.2001 p. 18 : " Regarding progressive spiritual enlightenment….
How thankful we are for the progressive spiritual enlightenment we have
experienced!"Like …"generation", the parable of the "sheep and the goats", the resurrection
of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, the "organ transplants"; the king of the
North and the King the South"; Daniel's prophecies etc. etc.°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
Hello everyone,
I found this...buried in the w.w.web :
The Watchtower 23rd Psalm
by M. Lande Weissman
The Watchtower is my shepherd
I shall not be in spiritual want.
It fuels my hope for greener pastures;
It leads me through troubled waters.
It replaces my soul; It leads me in
door-to-door work for its own name sake.
Yea, though I tread through the shadows of 1975;
I will fear no self-examination,
for Watchtower "New Light" is with me;
Its organizational literature conforms me.
It prepares spiritual food for me in
the absence of any critics;
It annoints its 144,000 with oil,
while my cup runs empty.
Surely goodness & mercy will eventually
find me at the end of the 1000 year reign;
And only then will I truly dwell in the
Watchtower spiritual paradise forever!Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
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WTS assets
by MacHislopp inhello kent,.
what i meant about money conversions was.
to give the net assets of ibsa and wtbts of penn., in different.
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Hello Kent,
what I meant about « money conversions « was
to give the net assets of IBSA and WTBTS of Penn., in different
currencies at the current banking rates. This will give a better
idea of the sums involved.
See for yourself : International Bible Students Association / London (U.K.)
Total Assets less liabilities
at 31 August 2000……………. British Pounds …….42,839,607.0
U.S.A. Dollars (1,44) equivalent: 61,668,903
EURO 1.63 " 69,828,550.41
AUS 2.72 " 116,523,731.04
CAD 2.21 " 94,675,531.47
D.M. 3.2 " 137,086,742.40
YEN 177.75 " 7,614,740,144.25
ITL 3.126 " 133,940,173,265.85
Fr. Sv. 2.48 " 106,242,225.36
Fr.F. 10.6 " 454,099,834.2
FB. 65.14 " 2,790,571,999.98
Note: rates from: WM Company, RB of Canada,B d France, B of Tokyo-Mitsubishi.-
and :Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania
Pennsylvania reg. n° 11- 1857820
Nets assets Year ended 31 August 1998……U.S.A. Dollars…………634,223,848
EURO 1.13 equivalent 716,672,948
Brit.Pound 0.70 " 456,641,170.56
CAD 1.54 " 976,704,725.92
D.M. 2.21 " 1,401,634,704.08
YEN 123.4 " 78,263,222,843.2
ITL 2.192 " 1,390,218,674,816
Fr Sv. 1.73 " 1,099,109,928.58
FrFr. 7.42 " 4,705,940,952.16
F.B. 45.66 " 28,958,660,899.68
Note: rates fromWM Company, R B of Canada, B de France, B of Tokyo-Mitsubishi -(18.05.2001)
°°°°°°°°°°°I hope this is clear,Agape, J.C.MacHislopp
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Report on Jacksonville losing WT convention
by expatbrit incity loses big convention .
by bill johnson, special to the daily record.
wash your car, it will rain.
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Hello Expatbrit,
thanks for the post. It gives us here
in Europe, a glimpse of WTS ...dealings.Agape, J..MacHislopp
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The apostle's Paul reproof...
by MacHislopp ina small question:.
according to the following text, paul , in antioch relates a reproof that he.
gave to peter and others because "they were not walking straight ...".
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Hello everyone,
a small question:
According to the following text, Paul , in Antioch relates a reproof that he
gave to Peter and others because "they were not walking straight …"*** Rbi8 Galatians 2:11-14 ***
11 However, when Ce'phas came to Antioch, I resisted him face to face, because he stood condemned. 12 For before the arrival of certain men from James, he used to eat with people of the nations; but when they arrived, he went withdrawing and separating himself, in fear of those of the circumcised class.
13 The rest of the Jews also joined him in putting on this pretense, so that even Bar'na·bas was led along with them in their pretense. 14 But when I saw they were not walking straight according to the truth of the good news, I said to Ce'phas before them all: “If you, though you are a Jew, live as the nations do, and not as Jews do, how is it that you are compelling people of the nations to live according to Jewish practice?”So in few words the Scriptures testify that Paul…reproved Peter and the others , guilty
of "…putting on this pretense .." in other words guilty of hypocrisy.
Now these reproved ones, from what the WTS writes, were members of
"….the existing governing body of the 1st century"!Something's wrong … along the line?? Members of the governing body reproved....??
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp