Posts by MadApostate

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JW Witnessed To Hijacker

by MadApostate in

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jw urban legend making the rounds:.

a few months ago a brother from vero beach, florida in the course of his .

normal door-to-door ministry witnessed to a women of "middle eastern .

MadApostate

Mulan:

I assumed the wife of the 'devout Muslim' terrorist, was also Muslim. Men like those, are going to be similar to Taliban men, and rule their wives with an iron fist, so to speak.

If you slowly re-read the "tale", you will see that the female at the door claimed to be the terrorist's sister, not wife.

Even if considering the "tale" to be true, most people in reading the story would have automatically assumed that this female was lying about her sibling relationship with the terrorist given that this was evidently a terrorist safehouse.

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Milton Henschel and the UN helicopter trip

by bj in

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some weeks ago, someone on this board alleged that milton henschel took profit of the un by using their helicopter.

as you can imagine this is a serious accusation which need to be founded on proof.

therefore, i would like to know what are your sources?

MadApostate

Coicindentally though I have heard that there is a picture and maybe more than one of Watchtower persons (missionaries? or officials?) boarding UN aircraft. Perhaps you heard a similar rumor? The thing to do would be to talk to former zone and missionary workers to see if they know anything of it.

The fact that AIDAFRIQUE officials are documented in the French WTS's own website to have flown in UNHCR airplanes has nothing to do with your assertion regarding Henschel.

... courtesy of webmaster Stephan Wolf who is highly reputable.

Wolf has evidently improved his website, but at the time he first published this "UN Visa" allegation back in 1998, which is based on nothing but unsubstantiated rumor,
Wolf was known to publish anything remotely negative about the WTS, true or not.

...by the way Mad, I am rightly proud that we, Jah Christians in the Free Christians movement, brought the first inklings of this story out a couple years ahead of you. It took long enough:

There's only one thing worse than being stupidly ignorant, and that is being proud of being so.

Are you "typical" of JahChristians, or are you the only one?

You have no worries about being ahead of me on HORSESHIT like this. Be my guest to take all the credit you want for being an idiot!

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CCoJWs Requests/Denied Local Tax Money Allocation

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this city of columbia sc webpage shows that ccofjws requested, but was denied, allocation of local tax dollars from the city's accommodation tax budget allocation.. .

http://www.columbiasc.net/city/funding.htm.

any locals here that can check out the person that actually formalized this request, and how did ccofjws say they were going to use the $$$ to promote columbia?

MadApostate

A friend emailed me the following info from their stock of old WT mags:

It appears from past DC schedules that Carolina Coliseum, in Columbia, has been one of the WTS's regular DC locations, with 3 to 4 weekends per summer. However, in 1999, the Florence Civic Center in Florence SC shared DCs in SC. In 2000, Columbia hosted only the Spanish DC, with Florence getting the 3 biggy DCs. Then, in 2001, both cities split such.

It appears that the WTS is playing the two locations against each other. This Request/Denial of Columbia tax dollars likely has to do with this scenario. It will be interesting to see how many DCs Columbia hosts this next summer.

Folks, there must be some good stories here, since this scenario is likely occurring with cities across the U.S.

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Milton Henschel and the UN helicopter trip

by bj in

jw
friends

some weeks ago, someone on this board alleged that milton henschel took profit of the un by using their helicopter.

as you can imagine this is a serious accusation which need to be founded on proof.

therefore, i would like to know what are your sources?

MadApostate

BJ:

"Anewperson" has posted something similar 2 or 3 times previously, except I seem to recall that he "claims" that Henschel flies on UN airplanes due to carrying some sort of special UN pass. "Anewperson" uses some "german" website as his source.

Naturally, "Anewperson" has failed to produce any evidence of such, just like the Illuminati/Masonry Conspiratists, who shall go nameless, who lack the thinking capacity to differentiate between unsubstantiated accusation and documented facts.

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CCoJWs Requests/Denied Local Tax Money Allocation

by MadApostate in

this city of columbia sc webpage shows that ccofjws requested, but was denied, allocation of local tax dollars from the city's accommodation tax budget allocation.. .

http://www.columbiasc.net/city/funding.htm.

any locals here that can check out the person that actually formalized this request, and how did ccofjws say they were going to use the $$$ to promote columbia?

MadApostate

Thanks EXP for providing the link to your related previous thread. Per your initial post in that thread, the WTS had been obtaining grants from Jacksonville to offset the expense of renting convention facilities. I suspect that something similar is or was going on, or was being tried, with the city of Columbia, SC.

I also suspect that if one could get their hands on the necessary paperwork, that in at least one of these convention cities there is something improper going on.

We ALL know of cities that have been historical "homes" for DAs.
I betting that every one of these are like the Jacksonville scenario, with the City effectively picking up the tab for the facilities.

Maybe we should do some factfinding sufficient to interest some local reporters in these cities to take the ball and run with it. Surely, the taxpayers of all these cities would like to know that they are subsidizing JW conventions every summer.

By the way, if anyone wants to inquire what were the specific details about the CCJW's request for funds from Columbia SC, here is the email addie from their website:

. [email protected]

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JW Witnessed To Hijacker

by MadApostate in

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friends

jw urban legend making the rounds:.

a few months ago a brother from vero beach, florida in the course of his .

normal door-to-door ministry witnessed to a women of "middle eastern .

MadApostate

Mulan:

This "story" is being passed JW to JW as "true". I am the one who labeled it as "UL".

Now, your assumptions put me in the position of defending this JW story.

Where in this "story" does it say the woman was a "Muslim", much less a "devout" Muslim?

And even if she were a "devout Muslim", how do you know that her idea of being "devout" is to the extremes to which you witnessed? There are numerous interpretations of Islam, and not all "devout" Muslims follow the same practices.

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Report on Jacksonville losing WT convention

by expatbrit in

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city loses big convention .

by bill johnson, special to the daily record.

wash your car, it will rain.

MadApostate

Tie these these threads together:

. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=16702&site=3

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CCoJWs Requests/Denied Local Tax Money Allocation

by MadApostate in

this city of columbia sc webpage shows that ccofjws requested, but was denied, allocation of local tax dollars from the city's accommodation tax budget allocation.. .

http://www.columbiasc.net/city/funding.htm.

any locals here that can check out the person that actually formalized this request, and how did ccofjws say they were going to use the $$$ to promote columbia?

MadApostate

LDH:

Let's see:

Why do I criticize the Society's attempt to obtain tax dollars legislatively intended to promote tourism within Columbia, SC, when at the same time defend the Society's attempt to control the cost/expense of one of its programs?

I believe the question answers itself.

You understand so little about any of this that I really don't know where to start explaining such, since you obviously still don't eve understand the CircuitLeasing portion.

FOR EVERYONE ELSE, this "may" only be the tip of an iceberg.

Ask yourself why CCJW would even attempt to obtain tax dollars designed to be allocated to groups who promote Columbia tourism.

It would seem that CCJW/WTS may be trading on their history of bringing JWs to assemblies/conventions in Columbia, and they thought that they could use such to obtain an allocation.

This makes me wonder if they have attempted or even suceeded in doing this in other cities where they arrange conventions. Has the WTS been trading on their bringing JW dollars to a city in exchange for a kick-back of the accomodation tax?

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CCoJWs Requests/Denied Local Tax Money Allocation

by MadApostate in

this city of columbia sc webpage shows that ccofjws requested, but was denied, allocation of local tax dollars from the city's accommodation tax budget allocation.. .

http://www.columbiasc.net/city/funding.htm.

any locals here that can check out the person that actually formalized this request, and how did ccofjws say they were going to use the $$$ to promote columbia?

MadApostate

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CCoJWs Requests/Denied Local Tax Money Allocation

by MadApostate in

this city of columbia sc webpage shows that ccofjws requested, but was denied, allocation of local tax dollars from the city's accommodation tax budget allocation.. .

http://www.columbiasc.net/city/funding.htm.

any locals here that can check out the person that actually formalized this request, and how did ccofjws say they were going to use the $$$ to promote columbia?

MadApostate

This city of Columbia SC webpage shows that CCofJWs requested, but was denied, allocation of local tax dollars from the city's Accommodation Tax Budget Allocation.

. http://www.columbiasc.net/city/funding.htm

Any locals here that can check out the person that actually formalized this request, and how did CCofJWs say they were going to use the $$$ to promote Columbia?