Posts by MadApostate

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Arrested for going kingdumb and dumber hall!

by D wiltshire in

arrested for going kingdumb hall!.

last night (3/21) the mountain view (ca) police arrested me.. this happened as i was attending the sunnyvale congregation service meeting.. i was dfd last july and was told by the elders the conditions for reinstatement were meeting attendance, repentance along with not speaking to anyone or anyone speaking to me (shunning at its finest).

(btw, i was dfd for apostasy).

MadApostate

Edited so as to not detract from D's topic.

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Arrested for going kingdumb and dumber hall!

by D wiltshire in

arrested for going kingdumb hall!.

last night (3/21) the mountain view (ca) police arrested me.. this happened as i was attending the sunnyvale congregation service meeting.. i was dfd last july and was told by the elders the conditions for reinstatement were meeting attendance, repentance along with not speaking to anyone or anyone speaking to me (shunning at its finest).

(btw, i was dfd for apostasy).

MadApostate

D'W:

First, let me apologize for the DB's lack of response that has allowed this post to slip off Page 1. The least this community could do to repay your bravery is to BTTT this up all day long.

While I don't agree 100% with what you did, I do applaud you for having the guts to stand up for your perception of things, as well the willingness to accept consequences to acheive an end. Lots of people on this DB run their mouths constantly about the WTS, but few are willing to "write the check".

During the song before the service meeting he approaches me and says,? your privilege to attend meetings has been revoked please leave right now?.

The Elders likey had telephoned "Legal" in the interim.

I tell him I?m not leaving and that he has to drag me out.

This, as well as displaying "apostate literature", was a mistake. They had the legal right to ask you to leave, and up to that point you were the clear victor legally, morally, etc. At hat point, they can do whatever is "reasonable under the circumstances" to remove you from the premises.

However, I DOUBLY APPLAUD you for taking the trespass, etc charges in order to press assault and battery against Elder-Asshole.

I hope your personal situation is such that you are able to make this a public issue in the Press, as well as sue the hell out of the Elder and the Cong. (Do not name the WTS.)

The recent statements in the Oregon Press re DF'ed ones "Welcome" at KHs should be positives both at trial and in any media reports.

THANKS FOR BEING ONE OF THE VERY FEW WHO ARE WILLING TO GET OFF THEIR ASS!!!

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Bryant Memorial Service Report

by seven006 in

jw
friends

it is hard for me to transcibe certain feelings into written words especially since i'm not what you would consider to be a real emotional person.

i have also mastered the art of rarely showing any outward emotional expression.

i will try and do my best to give you some of the feelings i experienced today through my eyes, so please bare with me.. i drove the hour to mcminnville which is a small town about forty miles south of portland.

MadApostate

Bryant recalled as loving father

Published: March 21, 2002

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Janet Bryant's sister, Sharon Roe of Diamond Springs, Calif., recalls her brother-in-law Robert as a very loving and dedicated husband and father who was probably suffering from severe depression.

Tom Ballard / News-Register

By DAVID BATES
Of the News-Register

Sharon Roe steeled herself to say a few words at memorial services held late this afternoon for her sister, Janet Bryant, and the rest of the Bryant family. She just prayed she'd have the strength to say them.

Last week, a police officer and a clergyman showed up on Roe's doorstep in Diamond Springs, Calif., in the middle of the night. Police officers do not bring good news in the middle of the night, but this one's message was particularly horrific.

Authorities in Oregon had found Janet Bryant, her four children and her husband, Robert, all dead in their McMinnville home. Robert Bryant had killed the rest of the family with a shotgun, then taken his own life with a final blast.

As McMinnville reels from the shock of the largest mass murder in Oregon in nearly 20 years, Roe and her husband, Marvin, are grieving as deeply as anyone.

It's important to her to tell people about her nieces and nephews - Clayton, 15, Ethan, 12, Ashley, 9, and Alissa, 8. She wants to share their special qualities.
Clayton was the quiet, reserved one - more like his parents than his siblings.

Ethan was protective of his sisters and something of a romantic. He'd pick flowers for his mother on a whim. He taught his sisters how to make bracelets and baskets.

Ashley was sweet and sensitive. She would leave surprise notes for her Uncle Marvin.

The youngest, Alissa, was Janet's best friend. And big sister Janet was Sharon's best friend in turn.
Most of all, Roe wants to tell people about Robert Bryant.

Like you, she's read the reports coming through the media. She's seen him described precisely the way she remembers him - unassuming, friendly, hardworking and clearly adored by his children. But she's also heard the phrase "domestic violence" bandied about - irresponsibly, in her opinion.

Even if it's true that domestic violence is really about control, and that murder is the ultimate act of control, Roe wants the community to know that virtually nothing Robert Bryant ever did or said hinted at pending violence. Nothing.

"Rob was a very loving and dedicated husband and father," she said. "I don't think any less of my brother-in-law than I did before, I really don't."

The harshest physical discipline he ever administered with his children, Roe recalls, was a smack on the bottom.

When he took the family out for a meal, and was worried about money, he encouraged his kids to order first, and whatever they wanted. He would happily settle for a salad or bowl of soup.

Like Janet and Sharon, he grew up in the Jehovah's Witness faith. Like them, he broke with that faith about three years ago, but remained a devout Christian who read the Bible regularly and thoughtfully.

While still in his 20s, this future church elder was humble enough to ask her - then a teen-ager - her opinion about scriptures, Roe recalled.

Roe does not condone what Bryant did, nor does she see it as God's unfathomable will. In fact, as awful as this day was in the life of this community and her family, she feels it offers the potential for a teachable moment.

And Roe is adamant in maintaining that moment has nothing to do with domestic violence and everything to do with mental illness.

"Rob needed to reach out, and he didn't know how," she said in an extended Wednesday interview.

In hindsight, the signs are burned into Roe's memory. She and other family members were familiar with what they called Bryant's "doom and gloom" days - days when he could barely cope.

Since they weren't matched by exhilarating highs on other days, Roe suspects he was not suffering from manic-depressive disorder. But she feels he was clearly suffering from depression - severe, suffocating depression.

"He stressed over things way more than people normally would," she recalled. "He would just sit there going over scenarios in his head, and he would always focus on the worst scenario."

And in truth, he had a lot to stress over.

His break with the church was far more traumatic than those of the two women, because he was an elder who disagreed with his church over doctrinal issues. Unlike them, he was formally disfellowshipped.

The disfellowshipping deprived him of both the support of his church and the support of his parents and siblings, duty bound to cut off all contact with him.

Since the clientele for his landscaping business was largely from the Witness faith, his business crumbled, forcing him into bankruptcy.

New evidence is emerging that serious financial woes followed him to Oregon. He was having a hard time upholding that most basic of functions - caring for his family.
Then there is the wrenching move from the place where he had spent his entire life to a place where he had no ties at all. A private man without his church for support, he did not readily establish a new support circle.

Roe said her older sister must not have realized how serious things had gotten.

When Robert's doom and gloom days hit, she didn't know how to respond. And he didn't know how to ask for help.

Roe has suffered bouts of depression herself, so she has at least some idea of the emotional quagmire he was quietly sinking into. While she cannot even fathom the depths to which he ultimately sank, she maintains there was nothing sinister about the man, even though his final scream was astonishingly horrific.

So she plans to end her brief statement today with a teachable moment.

If you're hurting, she says, get help. If you see someone hurting, reach out.

"We all need help at times," she said. "It's not a weakness."

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BEST BRYANT-SHUNNING NEWSPAPER ARTICLE SO FAR

by MadApostate in

there are 3 wbts website links on the actual page.

go there and click all 3 to let the assholes know that this article is being read!.

jehovah's witnesses use shunning.

MadApostate

The fact that this "___*___ XJW community" could not even get behind this effort to load up the WBTS website records with references from this "Bryant" news article confirms what I posted in my last post a couple weeks ago.

Maybe I should "again" change the title of the thread to "101 Ways to Suck Dog Dicks" so as to be sure to gain the interest of those who didn't participate.

*Edited so those who should not take offense do not do so. Those who should, can feel free to fill in the blank with whatever vile adjective would offend them most.

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Bryant Memorial Service Report

by seven006 in

jw
friends

it is hard for me to transcibe certain feelings into written words especially since i'm not what you would consider to be a real emotional person.

i have also mastered the art of rarely showing any outward emotional expression.

i will try and do my best to give you some of the feelings i experienced today through my eyes, so please bare with me.. i drove the hour to mcminnville which is a small town about forty miles south of portland.

MadApostate

The Bryants' ties to the community were fragile.

CARA ROBERTS MUREZ
Statesman Journal
March 22

McMINNVILLE — In life, Robert and Janet Bryant and their four children had not yet become a strong part of the fabric of the McMinnville community.

But Thursday — in death — those fragile ties were strengthened as more than 200 mourners, many of them strangers, came out to memorialize the six and say good-bye.

At a funeral service organized by Janet Bryant's siblings at Bethel Baptist Church in McMinnville, little girls shed tears in the comforting arms of their moms and grandmas. Couples listened as The Rev. Bard Marshall advised them to reach out to their neighbors.

Sharon Roe, Janet Bryant's sister, asked that anyone struggling with depression or despair reach out for help.

Roe thanked the community for its outpouring of support. She called the entire family beloved.

"They will always be near and dear to our hearts," Roe said.

On Feb. 23, investigators say, Robert Bryant shot and killed his sons, Clayton, 15, and Ethan, 12; his daughters, Ashley, 9, and Alissa, 8; and his wife, Janet, 37, before turning the gun on himself.

New to the area, their bodies went undiscovered in their temporary manufactured home for nearly three weeks. The discoveries shocked the community and the Bryants' friends and family in northern California.

The family had moved to Oregon last summer in an apparent attempt to get away from a past that included a painful estrangement from their Jehovah's Witnesses church and some family members. Robert Bryant was believed to have been depressed.
Roe, her husband Marvin, two of their children and Janet Bryant's brother, Tim Smith, were the only family members at the McMinnville service, said Scott Macy of Macy & Son Funeral Directors. Macy believed that Robert Bryant's family planned to hold its own service in Shingle Springs, Calif.

Standing behind brightly-colored banners and pictures sent by McMinnville school children, Pastor Marshall recalled Roe's memories of the family.

Robert Bryant was remembered as humble, hard working, honest and a man of integrity.

Janet Bryant was a great mother and a good cook. She loved roses.

The children attended McMinnville schools. They were excited about a new boat. They loved the beach.

"We cannot know why this tragedy took place, and it was a tragedy," Marshall said.

"I feel somewhat guilty that I did not meet the Bryants, did not reach out to them, did not help them."

Many others did, too. The Seipp family came to the service because their daughter, McKenzie, 8, was Alissa's best friend in school.
Her mom, Dana Seipp, said she wished she could have met the parents and wondered if she might have made a difference.

Dana and her husband Dale have tried to help their children cope with the sadness, letting them sleep on their bedroom floor the past week.

"I feel really sad," McKenzie said.
"I'll miss not being able to play with her.

Daniel Barnett, 10, was a classmate of Ashley Bryant.

"She was just such a nice person. She didn't have one mean thing to say to anybody," Daniel said. "If I didn't come, I would feel like I didn't care."

His mom, Eve Barnett, said she thought the service would help the entire community recover.

"I feel that having a memorial service was really important to all the people in the community."

Linda Hampton, 67, never met the family and knows only what she has seen in the newspaper or on TV since the bodies were discovered. She said she felt compelled to attend and planned to pray for the entire family.

"I think it's such a tragic thing," Hampton said, "and I wish there was something that could be done about it."

Cara Roberts Murez can be reached at (503) 399-6750.

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Bryant Memorial Service Report

by seven006 in

jw
friends

it is hard for me to transcibe certain feelings into written words especially since i'm not what you would consider to be a real emotional person.

i have also mastered the art of rarely showing any outward emotional expression.

i will try and do my best to give you some of the feelings i experienced today through my eyes, so please bare with me.. i drove the hour to mcminnville which is a small town about forty miles south of portland.

MadApostate

Hundreds Turn Out to Remember Slain Family

March 21, 2002, 07:30 PM
By Joseph Frazier, AP Staff

A white teddy bear sat propped between altar candles in a McMinnville church, and 500 mourners wondered what could have prompted a loving father to kill his four children in their beds, his wife and then himself.

"We cannot know why this tragedy took place, and it was a tragedy," said Bethel Baptist Church Pastor Bard Marshall at a memorial service Thursday afternoon for the Bryant family. "Many have speculated and they may be right."

Police say 37-year-old Robert Bryant apparently shot his wife and children at point-blank range before turning the shotgun on himself inside their McMinnville home, probably on the night of Feb. 23. The bodies weren't discovered until 19 days later.

Investigators haven't determined a motive. The Bryants moved to Oregon from California last year after a falling out with relatives. Also, Robert Bryant was expelled from the family's Jehovah's Witness congregation in Northern California about three years ago.

"Robert had questions about the doctrine he had been taught," Marshall said. The minister added that the Bryants were hopeful when they came to Oregon.

"That was the reason they left, to get a new start," Marshall said.

"That hope is gone."

The Bryant family wasn't well known to the people of McMinnville. But Bethel Baptist Church was nearly filled on Thursday, showing how deeply the killings have affected the town.

"Had Robert known how the people of the community care, this may never have happened," Marshall said.
"Robert felt alone, and God did not create man to be alone."

Sharon Roe, the sister of 37-year-old Janet Bryant, Robert Bryant's wife, was at the service, along with a half-dozen other relatives.

Roe told the mourners: "If you are ever in depression or despair, please reach out for help. Never be ashamed to ask for help."

Several pews were filled with schoolchildren who knew the Bryant kids -- 15-year-old Clayton; 12-year-old Ethan 9-year-old Ashley and Alissa, 8.

A display of mementos and messages to the slain children stood to one side of the altar.

Marshall said he did not know Robert Bryant personally, but he said Sharon Roe had described him as a humble man who put work ahead of pleasure and read his Bible every day. Roe said her sister Janet loved roses, and she'd fenced off her garden to keep deer out of the flowers.

Marshall said the family's fortunes started to turn around after Robert Bryant restarted his landscaping business, which had gone into bankruptcy in California. He had enough money to pay for some land and bring in a manufactured home.

"I feel guilty that I did not meet the Bryants and did not reach out to them," Marshall said.

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BEST BRYANT-SHUNNING NEWSPAPER ARTICLE SO FAR

by MadApostate in

there are 3 wbts website links on the actual page.

go there and click all 3 to let the assholes know that this article is being read!.

jehovah's witnesses use shunning.

MadApostate

First, I would like to thank those folks above who gave me the nice "welcome back"!

IT'S APPRECIATED.

Now, to respond to the IDIOT who was the one who went into convulsions when I first posted re the connection between LONGO and SHUNNING.

Has anyone else noticed that "IT" has been quiet about the "shunning connection" until I showed back up?

AND, IDIOT:

From previous posts, it is OBVIOUS that many others have taken the ball and ran with it with respect to contacting and speaking with various media sources. What does my statement (that you quoted) say??

THIS IS A TEAM SPORT, FOOL!!!

AND, I wish someone would trade you to the other side.

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BEST BRYANT-SHUNNING NEWSPAPER ARTICLE SO FAR

by MadApostate in

there are 3 wbts website links on the actual page.

go there and click all 3 to let the assholes know that this article is being read!.

jehovah's witnesses use shunning.

MadApostate

Where have I been?

FIGHTING THE WBTS!!!

Part of me will be at the Memorial Service this afternoon.

Part of me has been feeding the Oregon News Media "shunning info" ever since the LONGO mess first hit the news (this despite actual condemnation from this Board- go back and read the threads.)

When this mess started, some of the Reporters who have had stories posted here were emailing me, instead of the other way around.

WHO DO YOU THINK SET THE FIRE UNDER KOIN TV???

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BEST BRYANT-SHUNNING NEWSPAPER ARTICLE SO FAR

by MadApostate in

there are 3 wbts website links on the actual page.

go there and click all 3 to let the assholes know that this article is being read!.

jehovah's witnesses use shunning.

MadApostate

There are 3 WBTS website links on the actual page. Go there and click all 3 to let the Assholes know that this article is being read!

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Jehovah's Witnesses use shunning
The McMinnville family members in the murder-suicide had been outcasts.

SUSAN TOM
Statesman Journal
March 21

Her mother considered her as good as dead.

Her own children wouldn't have anything to do with her.

It's been a decade since Susan Todd left the fold, but the former Jehovah's Witness remembers the isolation, loneliness and depression that engulfed her when family, friends and congregation members shunned her.

She sought counseling this week because the murder-suicide in McMinnville brought back those overwhelming feelings of fear and despair.

Robert Bryant, a McMinnville landscaper who police think killed his wife and four children before taking his own life, also was shunned by family and friends after he was ousted from the Jehovah's Witnesses congregation in Shingle Springs, Calif.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that shunning is necessary to ensure that the expelled member does not corrupt the flock.

Todd recalled how her entire support structure disappeared after she left the close-knit community she had known since birth. She used to awaken in a panic in the middle of the night, wondering what she had done.

"You're not just leaving a religion, you're leaving a whole way of life," said Todd, 52.

Nicholas Petersen, who presides over the Kingdom Hall, Lancaster congregation in Salem, said people are drawn to the religion because members avoid immorality, don't believe in hell and are family-oriented, friendly and warm.

"What I find is, they're lasting friendships," Petersen said. "They don't dissipate. Our feelings don't change, they just grow."

A strong faith

Jehovah's Witnesses are happy despite all the troubles on Earth because they have confidence that God will set matters right in the future, he said.

"We find Scriptures give us enduring hope," said Petersen, who grew up as a Jehovah's Witness. Neither he nor the congregation condone Bryant's actions.

People may want to blame the religion because they don't approve or understand it, he said, but members abhor violence.

"We have always been a very peaceful people," Petersen said. "We detest criminal activity."

For Robert Bryant, whose lifelong bonds were severed abruptly three years ago, finding peace was difficult.

The problems began when Bryant, troubled by what he saw as hypocrisy among members, started losing faith.

Mark Messier Sr., a spokesman for the Jehovah's Witnesses in Shingle Springs, a small town east of Sacramento, said Bryant acted in a manner that was not in keeping with biblical standards. When he showed no signs of changing or penitence, elders voted to oust him.

The shunning deeply affected his wife, Janet Bryant, who was upset that congregation members wouldn't greet her in the store. She felt fatigued and drained, her sister said in an earlier news report.

Family, friends and other Jehovah's Witnesses who Robert Bryant had known his entire life gave him the cold shoulder.

His father disassociated himself from the landscaping business they had built.

Other church members pulled their business from him, according to news reports. Eventually, he filed for bankruptcy.

Petersen of Salem defended shunning as part of scriptural principles. He points out that Catholics have excommunication and other religions practice different forms of shunning, as well.

"We have certain biblical standards," Petersen said. "When one is a gross violator of them, they could be expelled.
If they're remorseful, they can come back. It's because of that loving family arrangement that many do return."

When the Bryants left California last year to start a new life in Oregon, they brought their wounds along. Bryant freely told new contacts about his split from the congregation and the move from his family in California, according to Yamhill County District Attorney Bradley Berry.

A sister of Janet Bryant's who visited the family in Oregon last December said Robert seemed depressed and stressed.

A family separated

Meghan Bernier, the first in the Todd family to leave the Witnesses, said although she did what was right for her, it still hurt to leave.

Her letters were returned unopened and no one went to her wedding. Her eldest sister, whom she once was close to, even dropped their father and his suitcases off at a food line so she wouldn't be in the same parking lot as Bernier when she picked him up during a visit to Virginia Beach, Va.

"It's like having a best friend to turn to all the time, then all of a sudden, because you didn't choose their path, they're gone," said Bernier, 30.

Jerry Bergman, a professor at Northwest State College in Archbold, Ohio, and author of several books on Jehovah's Witnesses, said members who question their beliefs or the church often stay in the organization because shunning by family and friends would be more painful.
The organization's rules reach into all areas of life, yet offer few effective guidelines for life outside the fold, said Bergman, a licensed professional clinical counselor and former Jehovah's Witness.

While some Mennonites and Amish also practice shunning, they don't take it to the degree Jehovah's Witnesses do, Bergman said. In other religions, a member must do something very bad to be shunned, he said, whereas with Witnesses, merely questioning the beliefs or those members in positions of authority is grounds for disfellowship.

Benton Johnson, a retired University of Oregon professor specializing in the sociology of religion, said Bryant probably was emotionally devastated by the separation. Witnesses believe the man is the spiritual head of the family, Todd said, and all that happens in life is because you have chosen to leave the protection of God's organization.

Bryant seemed to be doing well in Oregon, but Todd believes Bryant felt pain and loneliness because he couldn't share his success with his parents and siblings.

Maybe he thought he was taking a shortcut because Witnesses believe death absolves sin so they could be born in a new earth without sin, Todd said.

"(Maybe) he felt the only hope for his family was for them to die and be awakened in the glorious new and perfect world."

Susan Tom can be reached at (503) 399-6744.

About Jehovah's Witnesses

BELIEF

Jehovah's Witnesses believe in the Bible as the Word of God. They consider the New and Old Testaments to be inspired and historically accurate. They believe in one God, a Spirit Being with a body but not a human one, and that there is no Trinity. They believe they are living in the final days of Armageddon and that only 144,000 Witnesses are selected by Jehovah to rule with Christ in Heaven.
The rest of the Witnesses will live forever on the new earth.

GLOSSARY

Armageddon: the war between the forces of Christ and Satan in which the world will be destroyed.

The Great Crowd: Subjects of the kingdom — those Witnesses who are not among the chosen — will be ruled by Jesus and the 144,000.

Numbers: There were 979,637 Jehovah's Witnesses in the United States in 2001; one in 285 people in the U.S. is a witness. There are 11,582 congregations.

Jehovah: Hebrew name for God.

Kingdom Halls: Place of worship. Most don't have windows by design so witnesses can focus on meetings.

Witnessing: Witnessing and active sharing of their faith with others is fundamental because Jehovah's Witnesses consider it part of their individual responsibility to follow Jesus's example and go from house to house to speak to people about the gospel of Christ. Such field service constitutes a showing of neighborly love. There are other ways to witness, including conversations, letters, phone calls and mail literature.

Collection: None are ever taken at Kingdom Halls and convention auditoriums of Jehovah's Witnesses. Boxes are placed so that it is convenient for any who wish to contribute to do so. No one knows what or if others give. You pay for literature and ask for donations when you distribute it.

Shunning: A practice by Jehovah's Witnesses to separate themselves from former Witnesses who have been disfellowshipped. Witnesses avoid contact and all types of dealings with former members, even if they are relatives or friends.

Disfellowship: Expulsion from the congregation by elders for actions not in keeping with biblical principles or the organization's rules.

Disassociation: Voluntary departure from the congregation. The organization's new policy directs Witnesses to treat them the same way as those who have been disfellowshipped.

Apostate: Any Witness who questions the beliefs, those Witnesses in positions of authority, or the Jehovah's Witnesses organization. Apostasy is grounds for disfellowship. There is no forgiveness for an apostate, who will not have a chance to be resurrected in the new earth structure.

Watchtower, Awake: Jehovah's Witnesses publications

PRACTICES

Holidays: Only wedding anniversaries and the day Christ died are considered special days. All other holidays are considered pagan.

Meetings: Held five times a week, usually on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays. More than one meeting can be held on those days.

OTHER KEY VIEWS

Abortion is wrong and homosexuality is a serious sin.

Gender roles are defined with men as the head of the household and women as caretakers who assist the husband in teaching the children.

Divorce is permitted under certain circumstances, but remarriage is frowned upon unless the divorce was a result of adultery.

Service in the armed forces or any form of allegiance to government is prohibited because one must show allegiance only to the Kingdom of Christ.

Blood transfusions, along with ingesting blood, are considered wrong, because God said the soul is in the blood. Bone marrow transplants are left to individual conscience and all other forms of medical treatment are acceptable.

Source: Jehovah's Witnesses official Web site, various experts.

. http://news.statesmanjournal.com/article.cfm?i=39149

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BETHELITES NOW PERFORMING COMMUNITY SERVICE

by MadApostate in

editing thread back to original name.. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.

i posted this thread titled, "bethelites now performing community service", and it was read 66 times in 12 hours.. every time that i think that this group of xjws can't disappoint me any more, they do.. well, let's try a "title" more suited to this community's interests.

http://www.recordonline.com/archive/2002/01/27/bedell27.htm.

MadApostate

JayHawk:

Thanks for the response. Yes, I agree. After a spell here, the "positives" are soon outweighed by he "negatives". My own time here is soon coming to an end.

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LDH:

I could care less about folks responding to "ME". Its the overlooked CONTENT of this post that irritated me.

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DUMB & DUMBER (a/k/a Hmmm & Gumby)

Everyone who for an instant thought they were actually going to read a post about a "GB Member" being arrested for solicitation is JUST TOO STUPID for comprehension.

Hmmm, folks "mislabel" threads here with some frequency. I have yet to see you go off on others, so I suspect that "Hmmm" is just another identity for one of the MA-haters.
If you think all I do is post reprints of "JW jaywalkers", you are giving Gumby a run for title as "Dumber".

Gumby, despite the above, you deserve the title of "Dumber" hands down. YOU ARE A "DOOFBALL", if it took Hmm's post for your lightbulb to come on.

Both of you can feel free to NOT CLICK on any other thread that I may start, assuming I ever start another.

It's the stupid-ass majority here like you two that has finally made me realize that I am "casting pearls before swine".

Congratulations, you two have finally accomplished what out-and-out attacks never or ever could.

I'M OUT OF HERE.

Whoops, almost forgot:

FUCK YOU!!!