Posts by andrekish

The most glaring lunatic fringe isn't religious practice, although some religious ideas are clearly leagues beyond lunacy, (isn't that right Benedict 16th and the Daily Lama?).

The most glaring lunactic fringe is US LOT. WE HUMANS ALL IN A POT.

ALL OF US PUT TOGETHER INTO ANY ENTIRELY UNCONTROLLABLE SPECIES.

And between us all we've got this lunatic business down to a fine art and surprise, surprise, practice make perfect.

Armageddon is coming.

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I HAVE NEVER MET A JW WHO WAS NOT HAPPY...

by OneStepOut93 in

says a woman on a y!a forum.

of course no witness would say they weren't happy .

by the waaaaaay.... .

andrekish

You haven't met one of the ex elders from here in the UK. He's currently doing loads of time for child abuse.

He ain't happy.

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Imagine if the GB called you in for questioning

by nolongerconfused in

what would you tell or ask these group of men if they called you in for a meeting?.

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andrekish

I would ask them the same as I ask every scientist or religious person I come across......why do I keep getting images in my head of events that later happen?

And I'd ask them about God.

Then I'd ask God about them.

Then I'd be confused.

And I'd ask them 'When did the Creator put you lot in charge?'

And.....'Do you actually have any idea what you are doing and what effect you are having?'

And 'Would you all like to buy some nice ties to go with those silly suits you keep putting on?' (No wonder witnesses have such a hard time on the doors....

when you all look like detectives.

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Sickening Dilemma

by ItsMyLife in

i would like to have your opinions on what i should do about a situation please.. i have recently discovered that a 'brother' in the congregation (which i no longer attend) is a child molester.

i've seen documentation from his psychiatrist dated a few years ago, stating that he doesn't feel that this person is likely to offend again.

the 'brother' has said to the elders at some point that he has it under control but cannot be 100% sure it won't happen again.

This happened here in the UK and the child molester, now in jail, didn't stop himself. Eventually one of his young victims grew up and subsequently reporting his molestations and rapes. Following this the man was arrested, hauled through the courts and the press and hailed of a monster.

http://www.silentlambs.org/georgecockerillukmolester.htm

This man was the person in charge of checking child abuse within the congreation and carried on his assualts and rapes for 40 years until stopped. It would appear that some people who abuse kids are unstoppable without the police being involved. It would also appear that some who have paedophile thinking do not go on to attack kids but refrain themselves and possibly Jehovah will accept their non-activity in paedophilia as proof they can control themselves but I would bet this is the least likely of cases.

For the protection of the kids involved and the future victims of this crime someone in some authority must be informed but, as was discovered here in the UK, you simply cannot trust everybody. It took 40 years to unravel the assualts on kids here so potentially the JW organisation is not the most reliable place to report this since the desire to keep things under the carpet and out of the media may be too great.

Since I was at the receiving end of this kind of abuse by a completely different organisation as a child my opinion is that I 'would be marching into my local police station and reporting all of the details to them' but for the fact that it was a social worker who was involved when I was young. Trying to get any authority to listen and act is a task in itself since I found out to my own cost that NO group or organisation or authority can prevent paedophiles carrying out their acts nor properly protect our kids. Which ever way you go NO-ONE can be truly relied on to help as it simply takes a lack of tangible proof and reasonable sounding denial by the paedophile to prevent this ever going further.

However, the one person who CAN be relied on in this matter will be the mother of the endangered kids. Take care in how she is told, if you tell her, so that she doesn't suspect your motives of being unreliable. It is a child's mother who must take the ultimate responsibility for her partner and her kids and it would be or great use to her to know. If her kids were later abused by this person and the Creator knows you knew of the danger then she would have to right to ask for the reasons for your hesitation in offering this information to her.

I would definately report the elders of the congregation to the authorities. THEY are compounding the dangers to these kids with their notions of not bringing Jehovah's name into disrepute here. And their inactivity is unforgivable. In this regard they will have to answer to Jehovah himself. Our Creator created all of this universe based on love and joy of sharing it with everyone and everything.

Paedophiles don't bring joy, nor does anyone who sits on this kind of information. Jehovahis not a God if hidden shame, He is a god of openness and protection and although I cannot speak for Jehovah as a parent I can understand how I would react. I would tell the prospective partner with great urgency. Being raised infoster homes and childrens' homes I know that having no parents to protect me was the thing that lead to my being abused so please, please, please inform someone.

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A comet coming to end the world? Useful information?

by EntirelyPossible in

thoughts?

a woman named amanda started hearing a voiced telling them that a comet was going to destroy the earth.

they bought a house in the north carolina mountains to prepare, thinking the voice belongs to the dead former owner of the house.

andrekish

The Mormons ssem to like getting ready for Doomsday (I was one so have personal experience). Their weaponry stockpiles resemble the US army and it seems they cannot wait to shoot their fellow man the moment they get the chance. No thought for their fellow man except bullets and blood. Let's hope the JW organisation doesn't go doolally as well.

This may seem simplistic but surely the Creator didn't create us to be his 'hit men' nor his avenging army. The prophesies about the end of the system state that an army of angels are poised to help clean up this mess. The weapons will be ripped from the hands of the armies of man, not to be placed in to hands of Christians, but swords must be turned to ploughs and the nations must come to their end in order to end this nonsense on this planet.

An army of nutcases all trying to destroy their fellow man is not what the Creator has in mind. The end of warfare is His aim.

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Your best one sentence JW comeback contest

by moshe in

jw
friends

i am looking for your best jw comeback- the kind that makes a jw's jaw drop.

ok, even two pithy sentences will do.. here's one i have used before on jws,.

moshe: " do you know what an oxymoron is?

andrekish

'Send me up another little boy....this one has just burst.'

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Whaddya mean, no Rapture?

by kurtbethel in

we got rapture!.

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andrekish

We really shouldn't take the p out of these poor people....ahahahaha

Actually the rapture did happen yesterday but we all failed the test.

Love the catapult.....'wheeeee.....hello God......ooops......bye bye God'.

Andrekish (Chapter 3 Verse 1): 'What goes up must come down'

Shame that.

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Hear Ye, Hear Ye: Barbara Anderson sharing April 10th Australian Newspaper Article about WT and back ground checks

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/former-witness-taking-on-watch-tower/story-fn6bfmgc-1226036543156.

former witness taking on watch tower graeme hammond from: sunday herald sun april 10, 201112:00ama former jehovah's witness is to launch a private criminal prosecution against the religion's world headquarters.

his action is in protest at its refusal to require church elders to submit to working with children police checks in victoria.

andrekish

This seems to be a major problem internationally.

http://www.silentlambs.org/GeorgeCockerillukmolester.htm This article talks about a guy who is the grandfather of my neighbour's kids....George Cockerill, a guy I thoguht I knew quite well.

But this isn't unique.....

This happened when I was ward clerk as a Mormon elder, when it was my job to minute all of the meetings and what went on behind those closed meeting doors was so shocking it caused me to realise that the Mormon church was corrupt and therefore antichristian. And when one of the granddads in our congregation did exactly the same thing there was lots of embarassed coughing among those elders at the private meeting discussing it. It was only because one of the Mormon elders was a decent man and a copper that the old guy got investigated properly and prosecuted that the young kids involved could feel any sense of justice. But that doesn't undo the hurt and embarassment for the kids involved. That I do know from personal experience.

Doesn't look like the GB of Jehovahs Witnesses are any better than the general running of the Mormon chruch at the moment. Just as well it isn't an organisation that will enter God's Kingdom, however it arrives, or God's Kingdom will be very short lived indeed and we will all end up disfellowshipping each other until we've all got the strops.

I went through this kinda crap as a kid, but that was done by social workers of all people. It really doesn't give me any faith in any organisational ability among tosspot humanity. There are creeps and crooks in every direction anyone looks and hiding under every rock. We humans just don't want to behave ourselves.

Although I don't believe in the current 'child worship' that seems to be prevalent these days no kids deserve to be subjected to any of this abuse and molestation. Neither should they be subjected to religious slavery on anyone's behalf. If a kid cannot vote then that kid cannot decide to be baptised. If that kid cannot be baptised then that kid cannot be forced to work for that religion.

Maybe we should just send all the kids back down the mines or into the cotton mills. We knew what they were up to then and you can't be evangelising on a cold street corner when you are stuck up a chimney, just ask Oliver Twist.....they knew how to treat kids in those days.