daniel kokotajlo's new film apostasy has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. apostasy.
family and faith come into conflict for two jehovah’s witness sisters in manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.. this fresh, unadorned first feature from director dan kokotajlo carries an unmistakable note of authenticity from its very first scenes.
set in a jehovah's witness community in england, the film's strength and power lies in its directness.. apostasy depicts the growing rift in a family — a mother and two daughters — who are rigorously devoted to their religion.
Yes, I can see a lot of good about it. The research is key for it to be authentic. It seems to have been written primarily by Charlotte Wise.
It'd be great if they used this image as the movie picture but doubt it:
http://www.dankokotajlo.com/apostasy-film/
Just realised who Siobhan Finneran is. Yeah, she is great in everything she is in.
i'm not quite sure that this post fits under jws/wts since they do not keep up with real biblical scholarship, but i don't know where else to post it.. thomas a. robinson (university of lethbridge) has just published a book through oxford university press on the earliest christians, entitled who were the first christians?
: dismantling the urban thesis.
for some years the idea has dominated scholarship that christianity grew strongly at first in ancient cities like rome, alexandria, and corinth; the notion has been largely influenced by wayne meeks' (of yale) thinking in his book the first urban christians (1986).. i once saw a member here cite meeks' idea of how many christians existed in the roman empire.
Crazyguy
I am interested in the ways that Christianity developed from and blended with other religions in the early days as you write about. Can you recommend any particular books on the subject?
i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.
Phoebe
This is my fear with relatives I have that have left recently who are close to retirement age. It has been nice to rekindle my relationship but there is always a nagging worry that whatever reasons they have now for leaving, the strength of their indoctrination will at some point pull them back in. One needs to research properly to dispel all of that indoctrination.
i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.
As for the OP, what you said reminded me of the Catholic confirmation ritual where they say "I renounce Satan and all his work and ways". I am sure that the act of making such a public renunciation has a psychological palliative effect on you and makes you feel better. I hope you can appreciate that we do not view ourselves as having made a mistake in leaving - quite the reverse, so your post will rankle, but on a human level I get why you felt the need to say it.
I hope nobody else will be joining you in announcing a return the org in this thread.
i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.
Got to echo the wow factor. Just checked Doubtfully Yours post history. Fourteen years here, and now this your last post. I guess noone can say you haven't thought about this. You have your reasons. I wish you the best in your journey.
hi i am just starting to rebuild my relationship with jehovah.
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i would like to hear from people who may be or have been in similar situations and now want to dedicate their lives to him..
Before you start off on that journey, why not spend a bit of time researching the religion first? Have you checked out the JWFacts site for example. You can always go back to the witnesses after your research but at least then you'll be doing so with your eyes open.
the song is supposedly about marveling at god's creation but instead includes over the top adoration of the elders, conventions, and family worship.
lol getting a brother who sounds like a wannabe josh groban only adds to the cheesiness.
https://youtu.be/tzxf25gvs_m.
I think its only a matter of time before they do a full length disney style bible cartoon with songs like this included. They have the technology with caleb and sophia and they are churning out these songs. They just need to put it together. I wonder what bible story they will go with. Actually, come to think of it, I can see them setting it post Armageddon with flashbacks to the old system.
why is enoch referenced in the bible but his book omitted?.
Do you mean the book of Enoch? The book of Enoch is an apocalyptic book written from the 4th century BCE. It took the name Enoch but that is a common trait of apocalyptic literature to reference an earlier well known biblical figure.
every picture i have seen at him at beth shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.. while for me personally i couldn't care less anymore.... for jw's this is low moral character.
so i'm an going to guess he was a functioning alcoholic... how did that work with his closest workers?
was he gay too?
Every picture I have seen at him at Beth Shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.
How many pictures have you seen like this?
I know there are a lot of reports of Rutherford's heavy drinking and bad character. Jim Penton's book goes into this I seem to remember, and there is the Olin Moyles court transcript which reinforces this impression. There are enough sources of information for me to be convinced. But I don't think i have seen pictures of Rutherford with an alcohol bottle, besides the one posted. There is a youtube video with him gurning a bit at Bethsarim but there no bottle.
Are you sure you haven't misremembered the photos because they fitted the image you had about him?
mum has a mild form of lukeimia if she took blood like normal people she could live to be 100. but no, anointed sisters dont compromise jehovah wont allow it.
so here i am moving to sydney for one month going to hospital everyday putting my life on hold to watch my mother die slowly.
watching her gasp for air, struggle to breath.
So sorry for your loss.
