well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
My sister's kids were pretty compulsive users of instagram and had a large instagram group of 'friends' made up of JW's. I have a sense that instagram is pretty big in jw land. They would take any and every opportunity to capture the cool, noteworthy or unusual moments to garner all important likes.
I believe the protest provided just such an opportunity for young JW's at Excel & the photos of banners were likely passed to a greater audience.
when i was a jw and still living with my parents i remember the way my father held what could almost be described as contempt for archeologists, paleontologists, and other scientists who dared to try explain what happened in past.
he justified this attidtude with the argument that these people don’t have enough evidence to make such claims with any certainty.
however, i see now that his viewpoint was more likely a defense mechanism to protect his presupposed conclusion that everything described in the bible actually happened.
Your magic gremlin reminds me a bit of Carl Sagen's dragon in the garage analogy about proof for God. I expect you know it but if not :
well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
Anders
Thanks for that. That's interesting data on google trends. As you say, there does seem to be a short term spike on the 11th and 12th - the biggest one on the Sunday. Its a bit early days to know how significant those spikes are but there was certainly an effect.
had a warning talk on chat rooms last night.
not sure if they are really that big of a deal with jws.
i have a been to a few and have talked with a few sisters actually.
They still have chat rooms?
Ha ha. I know what you mean. The last time I was in a chat room was about 17 years ago in the days of Paltalk. I used to like the music quizes. My AOL dial up connection did me no favours at all.
had a warning talk on chat rooms last night.
not sure if they are really that big of a deal with jws.
i have a been to a few and have talked with a few sisters actually.
I'm still waiting for the response to purrpurr
I think you can take it for granted that every brother in your hall has looked at porn at some stage.
this movie is out there now in the us and im guessing other territories and due to be released tomorrow in the uk in cinema and for streaming.
https://www.curzonartificialeye.com/apostasy/.
i didnt realise until recently the man behind it all shares a mutual friend with myself so im hoping to get to meet him because this film looks like it will do more for ex witnesses who need justification for moving on and for those who don't understand the religion, i think it teaches more than any documentary?.
justme: I appreciate your positive intentions, but posting those links are against the terms of service of this site. I do not generally care, but it would be great if we could support the film. Its not like its not available on various pay sites.
Do not post material that you do not have the legal right to share or links to illegal downloads of music, movies, books or anything else. Please do not post instructions to circumvent the legal rights of others or abuse servies (e.g. how to download videos from YouTube).
this movie is out there now in the us and im guessing other territories and due to be released tomorrow in the uk in cinema and for streaming.
https://www.curzonartificialeye.com/apostasy/.
i didnt realise until recently the man behind it all shares a mutual friend with myself so im hoping to get to meet him because this film looks like it will do more for ex witnesses who need justification for moving on and for those who don't understand the religion, i think it teaches more than any documentary?.
Thanks for the heads up
The Film Programme - Apostasy - @bbcradio4 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bbt611
He comes across as not having that much anger toward the organisation. Perhaps because he wasn't disfellowshipped himself and maintained his relationship with his mother. This seems to have worked in the film's favour though as all the most positive reviews praise it for its neutral perspective and the fact that it wasn't a hatchet job.
anybody here doing anything for it?
i just learned of it's existence and its a cool idea.
apparently it's today.
I was wondering how long this has been going on. There are photos there going back to 2014, but like you I hadn't heard of it. It reminds me of the silent lambs protests they used to do - didn't they used to put stuffed lambs on the kingdom hall gates? Now they suggest a teddy bear.
this article won’t change your mind - the facts on why facts alone can’t fight false beliefs.
brilliant article in the atlantic by julie beck discussing the phenomena of cognitive dissonance and how it affects religious and political beliefs.
it includes some interesting thoughts on how social media has magnified the problem.. spoiler - she is not optimistic about the possibility of successfully reasoning with members of religious cults.. the article also has a link to the 45 minute audio version.. link....
I'll give it a read. It sounds like a book I read by Carol Tavris called Mistakes were made but not by me. It explains a lot about the world we are living in now.
this is a really long article about the film apostasy and interview with the director about his story and how he came to make the film.
apostasy director: ‘it was liberating to leave the jehovah’s witnesses’.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jul/15/apostasy-director-daniel-kokotajlo-liberating-to-leave-jehovahs-witnesses-interview?cmp=share_androidapp_copy_to_clipboard.
I just watched the UK trailer. The music is different to the US trailer. I can't decide which I prefer, they are both powerful.
