elder-schmelder,
Are those 2014 convention badges they are wearing?
I bet a lot more men would get baptised if they did the dunking!!
here in nc it's snowing, about 6" so far.
haven't had so much snow and ice in a long time as we have so far this winter.. ken p..
elder-schmelder,
Are those 2014 convention badges they are wearing?
I bet a lot more men would get baptised if they did the dunking!!
posted on behalf of jon p. .
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201403/untold-story-of-creation/.
i don't find the article itself very compelling but it seems to be opening up the possibility that a creative day is not a specific time period.
Hmm so they got rid of the 6000 year creative days a while ago? I wonder if it was after I was out or I just wasn't paying attention. If they don't know how long the creative days are how do they claim to calculate where we are in the stream of time? That and 1914 seemed to be the two anchors to the whole religion. I guess they have to rely more on the time, times and half a time in daniel. (I gave a talk on how ambiguous Nostradamus was with his predictions and that scripture came instantly to mind). My head is starting to hurt :-)
One thing that seems a bit bizarre to me is the idea of the earth being surrounded by water in the atmosphere. Where did the bible writers come up with that? Seems like they would have written stuff based on what they saw around them in nature. Maybe they came up with the idea of a flood and had to backport the story to match?
FOURTH DAY
The sun and moon become discernible from the earth’s surface
That seems like it might be stretching what that scripture says a bit at least without some qualification.
That one never really sat well with me even back in the day.
9:45am suspicious activity.
a caller from whitman street reported that a car pulled into her driveway; a man went to the door and knocked very hard.
the caller was scared.
in harmony with acts 6:1-7, what is the gb giving back to the r&f?
the post about the cos being retired and recent wt articles about caring for older ones made me think.
the gb is doing everything to cut costs while at the same time asking for more sacrifices.
I was thinking about this too, Jesus washed the feet of his disciples, not the other way around.
But I was also wondering if the disciples were known for doing anything similar after Jesus was gone. I’m pretty sure they weren’t leaching off the the local congregations either way.
posted on behalf of jon p. .
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201403/untold-story-of-creation/.
i don't find the article itself very compelling but it seems to be opening up the possibility that a creative day is not a specific time period.
Posted on behalf of Jon P
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201403/untold-story-of-creation/
I don't find the article itself very compelling but it seems to be opening up the possibility that a creative day is not a specific time period.
“In the Bible account, each of the six creative days could have lasted for thousands of years”
Wasn’t armageddon’s coming tied to the length of the creative days? If so doesn’t this pretty much destroy their entire timeline for being in the time of the end?
here in nc it's snowing, about 6" so far.
haven't had so much snow and ice in a long time as we have so far this winter.. ken p..
Cold, no snow coming down but I don't remember so much snow being around this long. Usualy we get at least one or two hints of spring being in the air by now.
this shows the scale of our solar system in a way that is a little more meaningful to our puny minds.
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http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html.
Link works fine.
Amazing, the earth isn't even a bacteria on the back of a flea on the back of a dog in the universe. And even more amazing is that is just our solar system which is one of many inside our galaxy which is also just one of many.
That was one of the things that made me stop believing that there was some benevolent God out there looking out for us. At least in the sense we try to explain him.
I love how big the sun is to the left (if you click on the little icons at the top it will automatically scroll to each planet)
is there anything in the bible that makes you believe that some or all the writings in the bible are inspired from god?.
In fact the more I think about it the more it becomes a bad advert for a god.
I have often said I thought the bible might actually be written by Satan
What if Satan was the benevolent creator and the bible was written to discredit him?
i remember my dear old dad (r.i.p) saying that when he had questions he waited on jehovah(tm) and got the answer later.. for the life of me i can't recall this ever happening to me......... honestly, can anyone actually recall a question that the wbt$ jehovah(tm) cleared up for you?.
Maybe finding your way out of the Borg was your answer?
Seriously, looking back my DFing was the best thing that ever happend to me. I'm not sure I would have ever woken up if that didn't happen.
I had an argument with my roommate over whether or not it was ever written in the literature that JWs shouldn't go to college.
I called bethel, it wasn't and I was wrong. This would have been in the late 80s early 90s, not sure if they have finally put it in writing.
segway:
I remember they had an article that said it might be ok to go to college because it was getting harder and harder to make a living. Then at the next assemly they announced that it didn't apply in our area because there were so many high paying low skill jobs in the area. (The best I saw was $12 a hour with no chance of ever getting a raise)
This was the same assembly where they announced you shouldn't wear your baseball cap backwards.
it took the better part of 15 years but i believe we have finally arrived at that point where there is now a critical mass of former witnesses.. thousands of exjws come together on forums like this one and discuss findings, ideas and research.
there have been documentaries and even a movie made about life in the jehovah's witnesses.. ex jw websites, online forums, and discussion boards that set the wheels in motion in the early to late 90s have matured into powerful tools of social change within the organization.. the lies and false doctines taught by the watchtower bible & tract society are plainly accessible with just a cursory google search.. active elders leak boe letters, often weeks before they hit the notice board in a kingdom hall.. social media has allowed exjws to connect with those still in as well as those who have left.. the society have no game plan because information is power and they have lost the information war.
all they can do is cry wolf and warn the rank and file not to listen to apostates.. i don't know what future the society will face in the next ten years, but changing world events, social trends, and reactionary change from headquarters based on their own faulty biblical chronology has got them cornered like a raging animal.. it doesn't look good..
I have noticed that anything a JW posts online will quickly be met with a reply from one or more ex-JWs