Posts by OneDayillBeFree

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Coming out of the closet to my sister

by FrankWTower in

hi,.

i am an active jw, still single and i live with my jw family.

i have tried to instill critical thinking skills to my sister and she has gladly accepted them.. i really want to tell her how i feel about the wt and their teachings but i'm not sure if i should.

OneDayillBeFree

Ima be honest here man. I have to agree with the rest on this one.

Dont do it yet! Think of coming out to a JW like suicide... Its making a permanent decision to a temporary problem!

Just be patient Brosef! I'm with you, we all are... keep on instilling those skills for her noodle and just let time do its thing. Be strong and hold on.

A good way to monitor progress is to get her and another Believeing JW in a Doctrine/GB rule based argument. It doesnt have to be about something huge like blood or Overlapping Generations but something that she doesnt agree with 100% with. Then you can see if she is really using those skills or if she is just doing what I do at meetings (pretend to pay attention)...

That will give you a better outlook on things. You may be surprized at what you find out. I know I have.

Let us know if you try it.

Its just my 2 cents.

-OneDayillBeFree

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I have always wondered how is Armaggeddon going to happen?

by booker-t in

i have always wondered if jehovah and jesus are going to announce to the world that armaggeddon has arrived or will people just guess that it is armaggeddon or will there be a newsflash that the world has entered armaggeddon.

the bible seems to contradict on armaggeddon.

jesus says that armaggeddon will come as a "thief" in the night.

OneDayillBeFree

when I was young... younger haha I used to have these crazy intense vivid dreams and some nightmares about armageddon happenning.

And it ranged from me and my then best friend preaching in some rural territory on a mountain when all of the sudden the ground starts shaking and it gets dark and then rocks start falling from the sky and big balls of fire and we run into a cave and then a huge plane falls down and crashes and burns and we see a white light brighter than the sun shine and come closer. Then me and my bestie get covered in this weird blueish glow and we are saved and theres people burning alive runing and screaming like crazy and birds eating babies alive too while we just stand there and watch. Ugh what disgusting things the religion stuck in my young head...

Then there were the weird random twilight zone ones where we would be just walking in the street and theres all kinds of people both young and old just living when all of the sudden we hear a big huge sound of thunder in the sky, yet theres no clouds, and then we hear something breaking in the sky and the sun turned red orange, and you could look at it yet the sky was still blue... then small little white dots appear in the sky and they seem to be falling, no, more like floating down and they look like glowing snowflakes. Then when they get closer we realize that they are snowflakes that are incased in a bubble, and then we all look as several people stick their fingers to the sky and touche these bubble, expecting them to burst. But they dont. At least not at first.

Then on one of the girls, the bubble pops slowly like in slo-mo and the snowflake turns into a feather, and then the feather dissolves inside her finger and the girl giggles and gets this high look on her face and is filled with the kind of smile you see on that chick on the "you can live forever in paradise" brochure.

But then this other guy who also had a bubble looks puzzled. Then again the bubble pops in slow-mo except this time the snowflake turns into a needle, and then the needle gets inside of the guy through his finger and out the back of his arm then back in through his chest and out his leg, the inside the other leg and finally it comes out of his forehead. With blood and guts and screaming everywhere. Then the guy falls and is dead before he hits the ground. I was afraid to stick my finger up but a force grabbed my hand like a magnet and made me do it, and of course I was a feather!

God I sound like a psychopath! So you get my point. Snowflake = JW. Needle=Non JW.

But the last time I dreamed of armaggeddon, I was mentally out, and it was like that scene from after tomorrow with the tornados going through L.A. And I was at work with this really hot girl and then I looked at her and said "I think we're gonna die" as the ground started shaking. And then she said "NO! I cant die!" And the thoughtfull caring me holds her tight and says, "Why not??" And she says, "cause Im still a virgin!" And then I'm all like (Johnny Bravo Face) And say "Oh dont worry I'll take care of that!" And then you get the rest of the picture...

Come to think of it, I've enjoyed armaggeddon more when I'm not a Witness... Hehe...

-OneDayillBeFree

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Mankkeli, a couple of simple questions for you

by Tempered in

jw
friends

i haven't read your entire story, but some of your thread topics/questions have piqued my interest.

on your thread "how long can one continue as an unbelieving jw?

" you made the statement that you are currently serving as an elder.. may i ask how long you have been serving as such and how old you are?.

OneDayillBeFree

Well I think Manky should just keep on doing like he's been doing...

Lets not pressure the kid now.

In time, all will be revealed whether manky wants it or not.

Let our good ol' pal Cognitive Dissonance do his thang...

I mean, If its worked on Gilead Grads, C.O's and hell, even a G.B member, then this is a piece of cake for him.

All we gotta do is sit back, relax, take out a nice cold bottle of booze and wait, watch as Manky's threads evolve from full blown hardcore JDubbie apologist, to woken up "How could I have beleived all this shit" poster.

For now all I have to say is: "C'mon Luke, join the dark side... we have cookies... and booze...!

well digital booze and jpeg'd cookies but hell its all fun!

-OneDayillBeFree

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How long can one continue as an unbelieving JW?

by mankkeli in

is it really possible to continue as a jw but not believing in it anymore.

for how long can one keep up with this pace of life?.

i will appreciate it if any scientific study had been done on this and what has the result showed?..

OneDayillBeFree

Well I'm a fader... probably one of the slowest there will ever be. Mentally I've been out for around a year. But I had doubts way before. For now I consider myself an undercover more than anything... not in an apostate kind of way though. I just don't believe in it anymore.

Its a strange way of life honestly, and I'm glad that I'm not the only one. Its nice to know I'm not alone. And it feels good when you can relate.

I'm a M.S, Regular Pioneer, went to Pioneer school while not believing, boy that was hell! Give talks -I actually have one next week...Damn, announcements, Read for the watchtower/Book study, the list goes on and on.

How long will I last? I honestly cant say. Several things happened in my life recently that helped me sort of lower myself spiritually in the Congregation. That is one of the best things to do honestly for all you lurkers thinking about fading.

Its something that has to be very, very meticulously planned, at least thats how it is in my case. And its the only thing that will work if you plan to still communicate with some Fam.

I call if the "Ideal Fade"

Many things must "fade" and slow enough for them to forget and not notice.

First goes commenting. That was hard to pull off.

Second is not being available to help in meetings. Pretty easy.

Come in late leave early. Be nice to them at this point and fake depression, injury, sickness.

Third is missing meetings. Now here I have to plan it out so that its seems inconsistant. And this step is usally the longest. Miss one meeting during the week at the beginning of the month, then a sunday meeting near the end of anther month. Oh and do something awesome when you dont go. Dont just sit there all sad and depressed, actually enjoy the time you have being free.

Then start dissobeying man made rules. Again slowly. Rebel a little. Grow out your hair, or shave it all. Forget to shave, if male. or wear a tighter, shorter skirt if you are a sis... Do what you wanna do for once.

Then stop meeting for field service during the week and miss every other weekend service meeting. (if aux or Reg Pioneer of course)

Then whenever going out door to door, do and speak as little as possible. ONLY take the mags. And be as superficial as possible. Speak about 1914, blood transfusions and Overlapping Generations and then pretend not to know what to say and show them some real truth. Forget about dignity, make yourself look bad if you can do it.

Step down as M.S

Step down as R.P

Stop attending Witness gatherings (parties) I mean really, they arent any fun at all anyways.

Make friends outside the borg.

Move congregations. the farther the better.

Lose contact with all the bros from your old hall. This one will be hard.

change phone #.

Change e-mail.

Delete all JDubbie friends from ALL Social Networks. Either that or you delete your profile and then make them again later whichever is best for you.

Then throw away most literature. Keep the Bible and song book, just in case.

Throw away No Blood card.

Start celebrating holidays and other things.

Go on vacation.

Meet new people

make new friends

start a relationship if single.

then throw away song book, keep Bible if it means something to you

travel.

Love unconditionally

And hopefully by then you'll be free.

Of course some things go differently and some things wont be possible. but I am a dreamer...

Its hard as hell, and sometimes I contemplate just getting D'fd for something stupid or DA myslef in the end. But my primary goal is to fade away and then disappear completely, and I believe that Ill do it One Day...

P.S. Manky, I cant put my finger on you. You seem to be pro JW one thread, then doubter JW the next. Whatever the case may be I wish you luck in figuring out what to do with your life.

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CO Visits=encouragement?

by lifestooshort in

when i was still a jw i remember my feelings of confusion caused by the co visit.

i just found them so discourging.

i knew what he was going to say.

OneDayillBeFree

I hate CO visits now... Because the current CO was the reason I started pioneering... He basically pressured me non stop and told me that furthering my education would mean nothing in this world which is about to end any second now, that Jehovah was waiting for me to serve him and wanted me to serve him more fully while in my youth... What a bunch crap... Sad thing is I still kinda believed back then.

But anyways, my CO is single and surprisingly still a hand full. I never did like CO visits. It was like a famous person was coming to town. And then the talks, and the spiritual spanking and the "encouraging" the sheep to do more and more and more cause "brothers we are not high enough in bible studies and we need to give more money to the org". Blah blah blah.

I only liked one CO in my whole life and only cause he was realistic and didn't really go by the book.

Turns out he turned down the opportunity to become a DO and stepped down from being a CO. Now him and his wife are in some beach far far away in Florida enjoying their lives as a d'Od couple.

But anyway I can't wait for this CO's last visit this year... Cause after that pioneering and preaching are going of the door completely! So this CO visit I will go with the flow and make a big deal... I'll wash his feet w my tears and give him gifts and a farewell card with $20 and everything...(that Ill take from the contribution box of course) and I'll be there at the airport to say my final goodbye. I'll shed a tear of joy as I'll never see him again but I'll make it look like i don't want him To leave... And as soon as he boards that plane to Alaska, I'll go to the elders and quit my 2 years of regular pioneering for the wtb&ts of ny.

Thats just my experience with the CO's... Your CO may differ

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Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice

by mankkeli in

on this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.

for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.

what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.

OneDayillBeFree

Well damn! that was awesome! So umm... Like where'd manky panky go?? Prob workin on episode 3:revenge of the manky... Haha it's soo late here and I have to go in the ministry tomorrow morning... Funny isn't it my fellow lurkers?? It's all bs but what else can some of us do? Anyway whadaya as guys? Should we keep if goin?? Or is this enough? For episode dos??

Oh and welcome Halo! I enjoy playing the game(s) by the same name...Hope you've Liked it here in the dark side so far... We have cookies...(:

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How Have you Counted your time for Pioneering?

by jehu or jehonadab in

just woundering how have you counted your time in field service especially if you were pioneering?.

would like to see if any of you were on the same page as i was.

with so much to do, like reading all the watchtower and awake each month and the bible reading each week.

OneDayillBeFree

That is so true GeneM! That's basically every "spiritual" pioneer's story right there... It's just sad...

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Hello--new to the witnesses...and you

by LKM in

jw
friends

just wanted to introduce myself.

i went to the kh for the first time 2 weeks ago...and will go again tomorrow.

i don't believe anything witnessy...(i was raised in the assembly of god church and now the closest thing i "do" with religion is yoga or sometimes the buddhist temple).... but the man i'm in love with is a df'd jw (we've been together for 6 years).... and he wants to get reinstated just to talk to his family again (i can assure you he does not believe it).... and he wants his family to accept me because we are about to get married... so, i'm going to meetings...its very interesting, but only because it shows me more about how he was raised.

OneDayillBeFree

Hahaha oh YOUR god dear!

Really Watery?... I mean Teary?

You wanna do this again?? Haha cause OneDay's all ready to go! You just say the word LKM (or any other poster here) and good ol' OneDay(thats me btw LKM) Here will Have a nice discussion so you can see how the defendants -NOT witnesses *wink wink* (that means you Oberono) of the great LOVING and overflowing with truth and perfection organization of the watchtower bible and track society of new York's true colors shine!

Oh and by the way LKM I'm still an active witness. Born in. Top of my class! An elite if you could say! Regular pioneer and ministerial servant, and everything else in between. I'd give you more proof but unfortunately that's as good as it's going to get for now. But if you stick around long enough you may actually get to see me become free!

Oh and welcome LKM I hope the best for you and your boyfriend!(: and remember, witness or Buddhist, Mormon or apostate, athiest or thiest we all have feelings, we all want to be loved, treated equally and we are all just doin what we think is right even though sometimes it may be wrong so hang on in there! And never give up!!

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Something funny I saw that made me think...

by OneDayillBeFree in

i was at the store the other day and as i was getting ready to pay, a baby no older than 3 years old came running out of nowhere and stopped, looked at me and sat down.

it was the weirdest thing as i saw no mother or father in sight... then i looked closer at the shirt the baby was wearing and it made me laugh but at the same time left me thinking.

soon after that a woman appeared yelling her baby's name and looking everywhere.

OneDayillBeFree

I was at the store the other day and as I was getting ready to pay, a baby no older than 3 years old came running out of nowhere and stopped, looked at me and sat down. It was the weirdest thing as I saw no mother or father in sight... Then I looked closer at the shirt the baby was wearing and it made me laugh but at the same time left me thinking. Soon after that a woman appeared yelling her baby's name and looking everywhere. So I brought her her child and after thanking me, said "i don't know why he did this"... To which I replied "it's ok ma'am, he doesn't know any better..." It was very strange, and it's funny that my mind connected it with the JW's and the way most of them believe anything the GB says.

Here's what the shirt said:

"Santa doesn't exist! But that's ok cause I can't read!"

Can anyone see the connection or was it just me??

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How Have you Counted your time for Pioneering?

by jehu or jehonadab in

just woundering how have you counted your time in field service especially if you were pioneering?.

would like to see if any of you were on the same page as i was.

with so much to do, like reading all the watchtower and awake each month and the bible reading each week.

OneDayillBeFree

Onedayillbefree happens to be a regular pioneer... STILL! ... used to be one of the best in the KH without exageration. And you know why OneDay did it? It wasn't all because OneDay thought OneDay was doing the best thing in the world. Or because OneDayillBeFree was Pleasing Jehovah... Of course, that was part of it but It was manly because OneDay was spending time with other people. People who OneDay once sadly considered real, Honest, friends. Basically, OneDay did it because It was fun, well some of the time. Well, OneDay tried to make it fun... To make time fly you know Watery?... I mean Teary!

OneDayillBeFree used to count time as honest as OneDay could. Was it perfect? Nope, but Good ol' OneDay tried. Oh, Chubby little Golden buddha how OneDay tried! But let OneDay tell you something Teary... O B E R O N haha has a nice ring to it dude... as you may or may not know, its damn hard, fucking VOLUNTARY (YES MORE ON THAT LATER) Work!

And so every now and then poor ol' OneDay would slip in an extra 15mins. in the time slip to round that demonic 69 into a beautiful shiny 70! Boy oh boy OneDay tells ya O B E R O N! What a great feeling it was to turn in that time slip with that pagan 7 and that roman 0 on it! It truly gave OneDay that Spiritual High that only MAlice could get from trolling like a bitch on here!

But any way H2Oy... I mean Teary, OneDay no longer believes in time counting time. OneDay began to read the Bibel, yes its no typo OneDay calls it the Bib-el... about how OneDay's home slice Heysus preached the word to all in the temple, You know it right Obe one I mean O B E R O N! How Jesus preached all day long and then met with his diciples and after shooting the shit up a bit with his home brizol they filled out their time slips and then set them on fire so that the inscence of the papyrus could reach the heavans and they could get Gody that holy High!

No But seroulsy moistury... I mean Teary, OneDay No longer goes out in the field as much as he used to. OneDay is very confuzzled about Big G up in the sky and Lil Jay-sus' credibility. Is OneDay okay with being confuzzled? Yeah Kinda. You cant have all the answers. Did it happen over night! Oh hades no! Does OneDay feel bad about finding out the truth? You betcha! But slowly OneDay realized the truth and it hit him like a ton of shit! That OneDay was born into a myth. Into a cult or tight little mind fuck if you you dont like the C word OBE!

But Wet-y I mean Teary, theres a ? and ! that has continuously popped up in your lil noodle over and over, "If you are lying about your time/ If you complain so much about being a regular Pionsneer than WHY do you do it??? After all, It is voluntary right???

Well liquidy I mean Teary, yes unfuckinfortunately, you are right my brother/sister/it... (By the way, guys thats what trolls like to hear)

But OneDayillBeFree will tell you why Teary Oberono! Its because we are stuck in a mind control religion that took Everything from and within us and grabbed it by the balls! How would you liked it if ONEDAY grabbed you by the nuts/boobs, squeezed slowly, firm yet hard, pulled a bit and whispered softly in your fuzzy left ear "RUN" Teary???

If OneDay wanted to have OneDay's way, OneDay would have left piosneering a loooooooooong ass time ago.

But thats the thing Weary I mean Teary... We "Undercovers" and/or "inside-apostates like the ClockTower likes to call us, dont only think about ourselves. We think about it ALL and how much we will eventually lose one day and how that would hurt not just US but our LOVED ones still inside.

Its a business Bro/Sis. you know that. There are so much expectations that we are forced to meet and so many other sheeps looking up at you and expecting you to end up with the big boys in brookyn/Warwick that saying "No I no longer want/can be a RP" is just not an option Oby. You know that the Org is never gonna be satisfied! Its like a drug addict saying no to crack! They think that the more you have, the more you'll want. It wouldnt fucking matter if you put 666 hours of service for the month, truthful or bullshit, as long as it brings the status quo up you're good as gold! C'mon teary you know this!

Will OneDay be a regular piosneer forever, haha great neba-cunt-sneezer no! But thats were OneDay is heading.

Yes Lil teary, OneDayillBeFree is on the road to Truth and honesty! and OneDay will owe it all to you!

And Remember Wetty,

Yes we could all just say "FUCK IT!" and never knock/ring another God damn door/doorbell ever again but then you would win buddy! And that My sweet, wet Teary Chevron, is something that we just simply W O N' T D O ! ! !

-ONEDAYILLBEFREE

P.S. OneDay wont really owe it all to you! (: