my fiancee went today with his son.. just wondering how many of u went to see it or are planning to?.
i have no interest in another 3d mass marketed film per se - but its smurfs!!.
the rebellious part of me wants to go see it just because im free to do so!
my fiancee went today with his son.
Just wondering how many of u went to see it or are planning to?
I have no interest in another 3d mass marketed film per se - but its SMURFS!!
the rebellious part of me wants to go see it JUST BECAUSE IM FREE TO DO SO!!
it's clear that virtually everyone on here is infuriated by wt teachings/doctrines/practices, but i would really like to know what is of most concern to people who frequent this forum.. here is my top 5, number 1 being the most significant/infuriating:.
the disfellowshipping practice - expanded to include family members (but not parents) who are old enough to leave home.
wrecks families and creates abject fear once people find out the truth about the organization.the blood issue - another unmerciful teaching, but one that costs lives.unquestioned authority of governing body - a handful of men make life-altering decisions as representatives of a larger group of people who they never see or speak to, and yet they demand unquestioning obedience on pain of being disfellowshipped.failed prophecy - the fulfilment of huge swathes of bible prophecy, including revelation, has been attributed to the events of the early 20th century, and the actions of a small group of men.two-tier christianity - faithful and discreet slave are anointed who go to heaven to whom ransom provisions apply directly, whereas remainder, or "great crowd" stay on earth and form a sub-class, only access benefits of ransom through fds.i realise that many of these issues are inter-related, but that's roughly how i would put them.
1- shunning (this is number one solely because it affects a greater number of people than #2)
2- protecting pedophiles
3- brainwashing techniqes/manipulation
4- unchristian values (help dubs but not "worldy people" ie no chairty etc
5 - superstitions .... ie: no smurfs
Interesting thread thankyou
I have been struggling over recent nontha with my own heart feeling sick due to a circumstance in my relationship with a man I am dating.
When I say my heart has been sick I mean I have literally been ill to the point I was adnitted to emergency last week with a mild stroke.
Its only because of sites that this - that in the past few months I have been able to realize where my pattern of thinking is coming from,
I have realized over the past week or so that my chronic impatience in life stems from the fact that as a child I was repeatedly tod the end was IMMINENENT.
Therefore, all my adult life - if things do not happen immediately I automatically conclude that what I am being told is a lie and I am living in false hope. It has had a terrible impact on my relationships and ability to maintain any kind of routine in my life.
See, my point is that its NOT just the doubts about armageddon we get left with - on a subconscious level many of us are struggling with doubts about ANYTHING that doesnt manifest instantly.
Boy these bastards sure have worked a number on us.
my local congregation has been in the news this week following a successful application for planning permission for a quick build.
a local vicar objected because the application described it as a building for "christain worship".. .
vicar fury at new home for jehovahs .
No problem with the red pill for me
but the 1952 quote - whilst I like it - is terribly outdated .
coming off a topic that terry started recently concerning what if j rutherford never grabbed a hold of the wts.
corporation.. i thought it might be interesting to accumulate a list of things that would never have happened due to the wts/jws .
existence and expansion over the years.
Sales of toys at Xmas would be higher ;-P
http://thegoverningbody.org/holy-walls-and-the-winds-of-change-part-1/#more-1047.
is that true?
i have never counted them up but it would be so interesting to see considering the israelites only had 600....
It was the cherry picking of rules which first led me to doubt dubs in my teens
They foolow the "no blood rule": because it was a law given to the isrealties - yet they dont follow laws like:
Not shaving the hair on your temples - why dont dubs look like hasidic jews with those ring curls by their ears?
How can u pick one rule and not follow the other 600? it doesnt make any sense.
As I grew older Ive cove to appreciate that Jesus said "I have come to put an end to the law" and he gave only 2 laws - which we all know.
Dubs are definatrly NOT christians ... they are cherry picking Abrahamics
why would he post a pic of byron brown, the mayor of buffalo, ny in this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/215638/1/former-jw-money-counter-at-district-conventions-tells-all .
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http://www.buffalospreemagazine.com/archives/2006_04/0406byronbrown.html.
I think Rick is one of those guys who actually believes that ANY attention.. even bad is better than no attention.
RICK= attention whore
alreet geezaz!
;p. a sweet old lady from my old hall has baited to a nice email i sent, which is good and bad, as you can see in my posts here http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/211809/1/study-conductor-challenge-plus-hello i quite like the people at my old study hall, so i wanted to free a few minds from there.. but on the other hand i didn't want ruin a nice old ladys whole lifes beliefs.
i'm stuck in a conundrum.
shes old - her life is over, sorry if its harsh but its true
even if she DID become convinced the WT is wrong - theres no way shes gonna leave at this stage. Her congo is all she knows.
Better of spending time with younger people who still have lives to live
alreet everyone!.
i've been watching and learning for a while, nice one on helping me see the real truth!.
long story short -> got interested in christianity, jws first to ask me about it, studied for a few months, realised they were wrong, tried to be a good undercover apostate, got bored, left, joined a local protestant church.. anyway thats not the reason i'm posting.
You CANT win an argument with a JW about end of the world dates - because they have that oh-so-convenient little loophole they like to call:
NEW LIGHT
they can change the date as often as they want
just as they can change the doctrine as often as they want - and you cant win
As said by others - they have stock answers for the BIG questions.
SO why nt hit them with the LITTLE questions:
like: why dont JW celebrate birthdays when in the OT Noah did?
If JWS follow the OT law of not eating blood why do they allow the hair on the side of their temples to be cut? That is in the same set of laws!
Its little things that REALLY get people thinking - becausae theyare ALREADY HARDENED TO THE ARMAGEDDON STUFF.
genesis.
in the beginning, jehovah organized the universe.
now the earth was disorderly and unproductive and not at all upbuilding.
not enough exclamation marks !!!
:-P
