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  The GENERATION explanation is now a BOLD FACE LIE

  by scotoma in

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  when i first heard about the new "generation" explanation i was confused because i didn't see clearly how they were explaining it.. now it looks like they finally figured it out for themselves and it is no longer confusing.. it is now a simple, ignorant, bold face lie.. this is from the january 1st watchtower.

  (and i hope to hell someone from writing gets wind of this).

  paragraph 15 page 31 blue stands for the exact words in the watchtower.

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  Prologos

  It must have been an exciting seance with Franz telling them how to get past the generation problem.

  I thought about the Elijah-Elisha type from the old Let Your Name Be Sanctified book.

  But it is clear they have a serious HTML 404 error when it comes to finding out what in the world Jesus was referencing.

  It's amazing how they know what Jesus was thinking. They seem to have the ability to tap into obscure abstractions residing in Jesus' brain.

  If only Jesus would have been able to think a little clearer he could have remembered where he said there would be two groups of annointed at the end.

  The apostles could have used that information too. He was talking to his disciples when he said "this generation". So there had to be two groups way back then.

  The only thing that is clear in their explanation is that they haven't the foggiest idea of what they're talking about. I would prefer to think they are simply lying at this point.

  They can't be that ignorant. All the average JWs need to know is that the Body of Governors "just love this doctrine" and they will love it too.
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  The GENERATION explanation is now a BOLD FACE LIE

  by scotoma in

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  when i first heard about the new "generation" explanation i was confused because i didn't see clearly how they were explaining it.. now it looks like they finally figured it out for themselves and it is no longer confusing.. it is now a simple, ignorant, bold face lie.. this is from the january 1st watchtower.

  (and i hope to hell someone from writing gets wind of this).

  paragraph 15 page 31 blue stands for the exact words in the watchtower.

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  "This fallacy involves making an unwarranted conclusion by unusual emphasis on a word or phrase
  or issue. Sometimes this is done by taking portions of a quotation out of context in a manner that
  was not intended by the person quoted."

  Forgot to quote "Attacking Faulty Reasoning T.Edward Damer
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  The GENERATION explanation is now a BOLD FACE LIE

  by scotoma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i first heard about the new "generation" explanation i was confused because i didn't see clearly how they were explaining it.. now it looks like they finally figured it out for themselves and it is no longer confusing.. it is now a simple, ignorant, bold face lie.. this is from the january 1st watchtower.

  (and i hope to hell someone from writing gets wind of this).

  paragraph 15 page 31 blue stands for the exact words in the watchtower.

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  braincleaned,

  Great Cartoon!
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  The GENERATION explanation is now a BOLD FACE LIE

  by scotoma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i first heard about the new "generation" explanation i was confused because i didn't see clearly how they were explaining it.. now it looks like they finally figured it out for themselves and it is no longer confusing.. it is now a simple, ignorant, bold face lie.. this is from the january 1st watchtower.

  (and i hope to hell someone from writing gets wind of this).

  paragraph 15 page 31 blue stands for the exact words in the watchtower.

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  When I first heard about the new "generation" explanation I was confused because I didn't see clearly how they were explaining it.

  Now it looks like they finally figured it out for themselves and it is no longer confusing.

  It is now a simple, ignorant, BOLD FACE LIE.

  This is from the January 1st Watchtower. (And I hope to hell someone from writing gets wind of this)

  Paragraph 15 page 31 Blue stands for the exact words in the Watchtower. The Red is my insertion.

  Jesus said: "This {two group} generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen." (Read Matthew 24:33-35

  Of course if you look up Matthwew 24:33-35 you won't find any mention of two groups. It also doesn't say "Truly I say to you that a future generation consisting of two groups will by no means pass away until

  all these things occur." In fact you can read the whole 24th chapter of Matthew and throw in the 25th chapter of Matthew and you won't find any mention of two groups.

  So then how can they make the next assertion

  "We understand {interpret} that in mentioning "this generation," Jesus was referring to two groups of annointed Christians.

  How can Jesus be referring to two groups of annointed Christians when there is no referrent. You can't refer to something unless there is a REFERRENT.

  ref-er-ent : noun

  1. the thing that a word or phrase denotes or stands for.

  The rest of the paragraph defines the non-existent referent.

  The best rebuttal in this case is: exactly where does Jesus specifically and unambiguously say that the words "this generation" refers to two groups of annointed Christians.

  When they say "We understand" they don't mean "translate" they must be giving their own interpretation.

  In fallacy world this is called:the fallacy of IMPROPER ACCENT.
  
  This fallacy involves making an unwarranted conclusion by unusual emphasis on a word or phrase
  or issue. Sometimes this is done by taking portions of a quotation out of context in a manner that
  was not intended by the person quoted.
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  Pajama party at Prince's? On Saturday morning? ????

  by Dagney in

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  http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/prince-throwing-a-pajama-party-at-his-house-this-weekend-20131017.

  wonder if he is going to pass out tracts and count his time?.

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  Talked to someone at his hall. He hasn't been around much.

  I think they have a special category for high profile people who are misbehaving.

  They are "deactivated"
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  An opportunity for AAWA leaders

  by besty in

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  it be nice to see you guys post on jwn now and again - keep this community up to speed with what you are doing maybe?

  all we have seen is the controversies - it would be great to know what else is going on.. as far as i know aawa leadership are not banned from jwn.. or should i not hold my breath?.

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  There is nothing wrong with competition. The etymology of the word "rival" is people sharing the same river.

  Rivals are not enemies. They compete but are all in the same league.

  I think Cedars has gone his own way. He has his own excellent website.

  Although I don't always agree with his approach he has really improved his game and I read his stuff regularly.
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  New Study Watchtower Celebrates 100 year Anniversary of the Kingdom

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  it is painful to read.

  check out the 1/15/14 wt.

  i am going to throw an invisible party to celebrate.

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  I wouldn't be surprised if the Body of Governors have had seances in an attempt to talk to Freddy Franz to get some fresh ideas.

  Don't they actually believe that the work is being directed by those that have received their heavenly reward?
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  Why the delay on the 1/15/14 study edition?

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  it has been more than a month since the last study edition release.

  come on "mother" your children are hungry.

  i need some of the craziness that only your deluded fds chefs can cook up.. aren't they usually on the dot when it comes to the release of the magazines?.

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  Memorial 2014 is a blood moon

  Memorial 2015 is also blood moon

  New International Version Acts: 2:20
  The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and
  glorious day of the Lord.
  
  New International Version (NIV) Revelation 6:12
  12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like
  sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,
  
  Good News Translation (GNT) Joel 2:31
  31 The sun will be darkened,
  and the moon will turn red as blood
  before the great and terrible day of the Lord comes.
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  Interesting movie trivia fact about new WT Headquarters location

  by WingCommander in

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  here is a weird fact: as i was watching the official wt video about the new headquarters project (can be seen on jw.org), i recognized the building they were tearing down, the front shot of it.

  because this building was used exclusively in the 1986 movie, "the manhattan project".

  it's kind of a cult-classic favourite movie from my youth that i still watch.

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  So JWgod is directing them to get involved in this historic project that won't be finished until 2017.

  In that video they are extolling the beauty of the developement. "You brothers are going to LOVE it" "We have some special surprises for you when you come to visit it."

  JWgod is telling us we will still have freedom of movement and free time to waste on a JW Hajj or Pilgrimage. We know we have at least 4 years because Jehovah wouldn't have his people

  spend so much time building an edifice that was of no value.

  So if we have a minimum of 4 years why do they keep saying we are right at the threshold of the Great Tribulation.

  So what's the message from JWgod? You have plenty of time to build your lovely dwelling and inhabit it and display it proudly to visitors. Or is the message - "we have very little time left"

  Last time they said we have very little time they successfully built a real estate empire.
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  Come... take the free gift of the water of life!

  by tec in

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  peace to you all!.

  for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).

  i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.

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  My Lord talks to me at the beginning of every month.

  He saith unto me: "Remember, thy rent is due."