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David Splane in Poland today
by FadeToBlack injust got back from watching jw.stream presentation at our local kh of a 'special' meeting at ursus assembly hall in warsaw.
all the congs in the country were tied in, but some will be watching replay later in the day.
there were 3 parts.
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Moscow - the only world power able to turn the United States into "radioactive dust"
by scotoma inthose are the words of a prominent russian tv broadcaster.. president putin recently appointed kiselyov as head of russia's newly restructured state-owned news agency rossiya segodnya (russia today), which was set up by an unexpected presidential decree to replace the longstanding ria novosti and voice of russia media outlets in december.. .
do you think the watchtower writers are doing some recalculations?.
will they switch the identity of babylon the great from a religious entity to the usa.. "rev.
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scotoma
DJS,
I appreciate your response. You are more optimistic than I am.
Since we are talking hypothetical situations the predictions are going to be based on our individual premises and not on some kind of certainty.
Any event that involves multiple causes has a 50% chance of happening.
If a person were to say that they are 60% sure an event will take place it would mean that you have access to information beyond simply guessing.
If you say that you are 70% sure an event isn't going to occur you would have some knowledge beyond just stating the possibility.
I acknowledged the fingerprint issue when I mentioned isotopes. That would only be an issue if you could map the route taken to get the device to its point of detonation. Russia would be able to deny its involvement unless someone blew a whistle on the conspiracy and evidence could be established beyond resonable doubt that Russian authorities were behind such an attack.
Oligarchs are not the likely source of such intrigue. That was only thrown into the mix to consider multiple possibilities.
Suitcase nuke is really an expression that did have some credibility at one time. It is not impossible for Russians to rig a device that could blow up lower manhattan and be small enough to escape detection. The device could be moved into place from multiple sources and assembled without detection. The most difficult thing would be delivering the fissile material that would be easy to detect. However, it's not impossible when you consider the creative ways to cross international boundaries in a country that has thousands of mile of unattended coastlines. If Tom Clancy were alive he would have a list long enough to write a library of spy novels. There might even be some devices that are already in place from the 40 year long cold war with diplomats coming and going with various degrees of immunity.
Putin isn't motivated by money - he's not a businessman. He is motivated by power and control. He could have disappeared with his billions a long time ago. Putin wants to throw off the influence of the United States. He wants to change history. Putin cares about Europe because they are his neighbors and he respects their culture. Putin detests the monopolar world controlled by the USA. Biden is talking about the US and Great Britain doing maneuvers with Ukrainian troops. This creates a situation that would be very tempting for a man like Putin to carry out the kind of terror I mentioned.
So is this likely? I can't say. You can't say. Not having extraordinary knowledge it's a coin flip. Things don't happen until they happen. Evoltuion tells us that given time anything can happen. Who would have bet that terrorists would hijack four Jet Airplanes and synchronize an attack on two landmark NYC buildings and the Pentagon and a fourth unknown target. On a warm fall Monday we all went to sleep as we heard the usual planes flying over our dwellings. Tuesday morning we woke up to a smoldering New York skyline. Remember you are dealing with a man who came to power with the backdrop of destruction of hundreds of poor people killed by solid rocket fuel bombs in their apartments at night.
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Is honesty the best policy?
by LouBelle ini ask because many a time being honest and telling the truth, even with tact is not met well - in my experience.. in the last couple of days i went for an interview with a company and when asked what my current package was i was honest and told the truth.
they came back with the exact same offer - i then asked if we could negotiate considering my experience blah blah blah - they didn't both to respond and after three emails and asking for some sort of curtesy reply, i got a very offish response.
a collegue i work with went for the same interview, lied about what she earns and they offered her a higher salary and were happy to negotiate even higher.
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scotoma
Honesty is the best POLICY. It's the best guiding principle when you need a habitual reaction.
However honesty is not necessarily the best STRATEGY. Sometimes there are larger issues - such as life and death - financial ruin - career goals etc.
If you run a company at what point do you let your suppliers know the depth of your financial woes and the possibility of bankruptcy that will leave them without full payment? Unfortunately you have to play people.
That's why human brains are so big. Social interaction in a clan of about 120 people requires some lying.
The bible is full of divine deceptions.
Why would Jehovah make Moses feel he was actually influenced by his intercession on behalf of Israel.
Why would Jehovah act like he needed to promise he would never kill every living thing again?
Why would Jehovah let his people believe that he really liked the smell of fat and entrails being grilled on the altar?
When the Bible promises everlasting life (on earth or in heaven), based on Jehovah's tendency to deceive, how do you know this isn't a manipulative trick to get you to cooperate.
Not that I believe any of that. But it shows lying is an essential option in surviving in a community?
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Moscow - the only world power able to turn the United States into "radioactive dust"
by scotoma inthose are the words of a prominent russian tv broadcaster.. president putin recently appointed kiselyov as head of russia's newly restructured state-owned news agency rossiya segodnya (russia today), which was set up by an unexpected presidential decree to replace the longstanding ria novosti and voice of russia media outlets in december.. .
do you think the watchtower writers are doing some recalculations?.
will they switch the identity of babylon the great from a religious entity to the usa.. "rev.
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scotoma
DJS,
It's obvious that Kielyov is far from the big nuclear button.
What should be of concern is the sober formulation of policy that makes a first strike a rational strategy.
Both Russia and the USA have a first strike policy. It is generally believed that the side that initiates the first strike has the best opportunity for their missiles to do the job - whether the missiles will be accurate or not - no one knows for sure until they shoot. One thing is sure if your strategy is reactive rather than preemptive you are guaranteed a result that is not optimum.
So, who is more desperate? Russia or the USA. Desperate situations call for desperate actions. The FSB and possibly Putin himself were implicated in the bombing of the apartment complex in Moscow and other cities in Russia at the end of 1999 to destract Russians from Yeltsin's corruption and pave the way for Putin to become Prime Minister and then President. The bombs were blamed on the Chechens and Putin won the hearts of the Russian Nationalists by invading Grozny and bombing that city of a half million people into a pile of rubble. Litvenenko was poisoned with polonium because he knew too much about those bombings. Also look up Ryazan & bombing on the internet.
Does the west want to make Russia more desperate?
I don't expect missiles to fly but I wouldn't be surprised if a wealthy oligarch or even the FSB passed a suitcase nuke over to some terrorists to blow up the financial district in New York. There would be no return address. Putin would act real concerned and friendly sending his condolences. Even if the isotopes indicate a Russian device his plea would be that unfortunately such instruments can fall into the wrong hands.
The USA would be preoccupied with digging out of that mess. The countries of the former soviet union - including Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia would understand that the west is no longer in a position to help them.
We are in an extremely dangerous time. Anything could happen.
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Moscow - the only world power able to turn the United States into "radioactive dust"
by scotoma inthose are the words of a prominent russian tv broadcaster.. president putin recently appointed kiselyov as head of russia's newly restructured state-owned news agency rossiya segodnya (russia today), which was set up by an unexpected presidential decree to replace the longstanding ria novosti and voice of russia media outlets in december.. .
do you think the watchtower writers are doing some recalculations?.
will they switch the identity of babylon the great from a religious entity to the usa.. "rev.
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scotoma
TD,
Good point. If someone agrees to special arrangements if they don't build nuclear weapons then they ought to keep that committment.
That would be an exceptional case.
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Moscow - the only world power able to turn the United States into "radioactive dust"
by scotoma inthose are the words of a prominent russian tv broadcaster.. president putin recently appointed kiselyov as head of russia's newly restructured state-owned news agency rossiya segodnya (russia today), which was set up by an unexpected presidential decree to replace the longstanding ria novosti and voice of russia media outlets in december.. .
do you think the watchtower writers are doing some recalculations?.
will they switch the identity of babylon the great from a religious entity to the usa.. "rev.
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scotoma
wasblind,
Shouldn't any nation be able to build whatever weapons they need for self defense?
It won't be long before they will all have nuclear weapons that can be delivered stealthily with drones just big enough to fly a 50 pound payload and crawl to its target.
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Moscow - the only world power able to turn the United States into "radioactive dust"
by scotoma inthose are the words of a prominent russian tv broadcaster.. president putin recently appointed kiselyov as head of russia's newly restructured state-owned news agency rossiya segodnya (russia today), which was set up by an unexpected presidential decree to replace the longstanding ria novosti and voice of russia media outlets in december.. .
do you think the watchtower writers are doing some recalculations?.
will they switch the identity of babylon the great from a religious entity to the usa.. "rev.
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scotoma
Sir 82,
The former Soviet Republics gave up their nuclear weapons and Russia assumed responsibility for all debts of the Soviet Union.
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Moscow - the only world power able to turn the United States into "radioactive dust"
by scotoma inthose are the words of a prominent russian tv broadcaster.. president putin recently appointed kiselyov as head of russia's newly restructured state-owned news agency rossiya segodnya (russia today), which was set up by an unexpected presidential decree to replace the longstanding ria novosti and voice of russia media outlets in december.. .
do you think the watchtower writers are doing some recalculations?.
will they switch the identity of babylon the great from a religious entity to the usa.. "rev.
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scotoma
What's the point of having nuclear weapons if your don't flash them once in a while.
It's hypocritical the way conservatives fight for their right to have guns but they want to prevent other countries from having the same ability to defend themselves with nuclear weapons as the USA has.
The so-called "legitimate" government that carried out a coup in Ukraine is now setting about confiscating all private firearms.
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Moscow - the only world power able to turn the United States into "radioactive dust"
by scotoma inthose are the words of a prominent russian tv broadcaster.. president putin recently appointed kiselyov as head of russia's newly restructured state-owned news agency rossiya segodnya (russia today), which was set up by an unexpected presidential decree to replace the longstanding ria novosti and voice of russia media outlets in december.. .
do you think the watchtower writers are doing some recalculations?.
will they switch the identity of babylon the great from a religious entity to the usa.. "rev.
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scotoma
Those are the words of a prominent Russian TV broadcaster.
President Putin recently appointed Kiselyov as head of Russia's newly restructured state-owned news agency Rossiya Segodnya (Russia Today), which was set up by an unexpected presidential decree to replace the longstanding Ria Novosti and Voice of Russia media outlets in December.
Do you think the Watchtower writers are doing some recalculations?
Will they switch the identity of Babylon the Great from a religious entity to the USA.
"Rev. 18:16
"Too bad, too bad-the great city, clothed with fine linen and purple and scarlet and richly adorned with gold ornament...because in 1 hour such great riches have been devasted...cried out as they looked at the smoke from the burning of her and said 'What city is like the great city?' And they threw dust upon their heads and cried out weeping and mourning and said "Too bad, too bad- the great city, in which all those having boats at sea became rich by reason of her costliness because in 1 hour she has been devastated."
They probably won't change their idea that Babylon the Great is Religion. If the USA were Babylon the Great it would require them to conclude that at some point they would have to physically get out of the USA. That would be too much to ask JW's to do. And besides they've got that marvelous building project underway in Tuxedo.
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A contribution from one of the members!
by Atlantis ina contribution from one of the members who doesn't get to post very often.. ... .......... ........................ ......... ..........atlantis
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scotoma
My father was the "stock" (literature) servant in the early 1950's at our "Company"(congregation).
I had to fold those things for everyone.
